I wonder how Harry's children will feel when they read his book as adults

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I wonder how Harry's children will feel when they read his book as adults. What will Archie and Lilibet think and feel about the fact that a bunch of their pictures have been published in a Netflix film that has already been seen by several million people?

I also wonder how Harry will approach his children when they have had many fights and maybe even a punch-up as children? What kind of language will he use when one of the children in a conflict feels more guilty than the other?

And in the period of growing up, when children are more rebellious and have more complex language, in what way will he tell them if he does not agree with certain behavior and does not want them to behave that way? If, as a father, he ever gets angry with them and sets limits, how will he feel when they tell him later that this does not make them feel accepted and loved enough? How will he react if one of his children says that he feels less loved and accepted than the others?

Positive parenting teaches us that when we set boundaries, we are telling our child that we always love them, but that we disagree with their behavior and therefore do not allow it. We stop a child from misbehaving, even if he has to cry a little because of it. We also tell the child how we feel, for example, 'I love you and I am afraid when you behave like that, I am afraid that it will harm you in the future and I do not allow it'-we can later explain why we think it will be harmful etc.

I wonder whether Harry really knows the approaches to parenting that help to build a child's healthy self-esteem and solid mental health. His two children are still young, and he has included them in a book that also talks about drug use, killing, and conquering women. Has Harry asked himself how the children will feel when they find out later that they are included in a book?

What if one of the children, as an adult, gets put on William's side, and blames Harry for never having met his cousins, or maybe something else. His children will never think the same way as he does, and they will behave differently. I think Harry needs more knowledge about healthy self-esteem and healthy positive parenting-which William and Kate are already using and which experts have written about. That is much more difficult, and there is nothing in the book to say that he has had any further training in this area so that he can work differently with his children. Healthy parenting involves a lot more personal growth, self-reflection than just writing superficial, one-sided memoirs from perspectives that differ....

He's probably reading it to them as a bedtime story now.

Well - with the fairy tale view some people have of royalty…

So dad, I could have been a princess and lived in a palace, and had loads of servants, and gone to balls and polo parties, and had people bow to me, and travelled the world in a huuuuuge yacht, and had a crown? Aw daaaaaaadddddd.

I'm sure the children will have had Harry and Meghan's poison poured in their ears for years so the book will come as no surprise.

their little classmates will hear all about it. And you know how kind Kidd can be.

I think H needs to work more on his self-esteem, so that his children do not feel unloved if he sets boundaries for them as a parent and they are occasionally angry or sad about it.

I think the book are the least of the kids problems.

How will Harry react when they are disrespectful to Meghan?

I think Meghan may end up having some very serious decisions to make in the future.

I find it interesting that most of what H writes against his family to make him angry and sad, he does and has done himself, for example, he is angry because MM was labeled rude, but he also labeled Camilla as mean...and so on. It all sounds to me like their way of making money, because it has opened up a lot of
possibilities for new books to be written, films to be made, etc...if I were W, I wouldn't be happy with the path that H has taken either.

Well their cousins (williams kids) are living in the public eye far more than harry's are, you didn't even see Harry's kids faces up until recently so I'm not sure why you are saying this? William's kids are treated like public property, I'd be questioning how William is protecting and respecting his children's privacy? He's not. But I guess that's fine isn't it because you like William.

None of these children william's or harry's should be anyone's business, we shouldn't know anything about them, they are children and should be allowed have a childhood.

Imagine if the children reach adulthood and have a relationship with the RF. His jealousy would start up all over again.

Both parents alienated from all family members except maternal grandma. Non speakers with both families and only a collection of Zlebs as guidance and company. It really is a very unhealthy environment for them to be growing up in. Poor kids.

I agree with you ( SpringsRightAroundTheCorner) that W's children are much more in the public eye than H's. Basically, what I wanted to point out is that H has really said a lot of hurtful things about the family. It pains me to believe this to be true, as I have 2 children myself, and I know how they sometimes think they are being unloved if I don't allow them to do something they want.
If W tells H and MM that she disagrees with their behavior because it is not in line with the family values, it doesn't mean that W doesn't love her brother and hate him-I can't imagine hating my children if they ever don't behave nicely, and I have to get angry with them too, and they have to cry about it sometimes-but in the end I love them and they love me.
I am thinking that even if H's father and brother didn't know how to set boundaries for H in a more loving way, it doesn't mean they don't love him.
I even think that no matter what bad things H says and writes about them, they will accept him-I would accept my own children. So I believe H is exaggerating---and I concluded that this is a new job for H; he will write more books and make more films; I believe this is an area he knows very well; he will be able to make a lot of money out of it; people will follow it, read it, whatever.. At the moment W and his wife are not that so interesting at all. Basically, I am writing all of this because I want to think deeper....

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Harry appeared to be a much loved uncle to George and Charlotte. He lived next door to them at a time and I'm genuinely surprised at how he could just walk away from them without a backward glance. He knows the difficulties with the lives they're going to lead and could have been a great influence on them. Am I correct in thinking he's never even mentioned them and presumably doesn't even know Louis.
Uncles can be so important to children and he's been neglectful.

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Get a grip.,he is their uncle not their father ,how do you know he doesn't face time the kids.etc?
Families are comp!ex my own children are estranged from their Dads side of the family (not their Dad we are togethef) after a traumatic experience they blamed my dh,for its sad but there's nothing we can do about it ,I'm sure whatever's happened there will.be faults on both sides.

I thought this, although tbh ny first instinct was reading about your dad having sex for the first time with an older woman round the back of the pub being "smacked on the ass" like a pony....seriously no-one needs to have that ammunition for other kids to make fun of them! Plus how will he ever have a leg to stand on if he tries to talk to them about safe sex/not taking drugs/violence?

Although it's a fair point that given all the apparent distress being the "spare" and growing up with the media focushas caused him he's the only one who could relate to charlotte/Louis in that way.

Are people forgetting that both Charles and Diana also wrote autobiographies admitted affairs et c when William and Harry were kids?
And they both had tell all interviews this is a new thing?

I think a lot will change before they grow up. A lot.

id be very surprised if Meghan stays in the marriage , I give it 5 years max. He will never leave her, but I think she will leave him if he can’t turn this round and she finds her fame waning, that woman isn’t going to settle down quietly.

after which point the kids may ultimately get a step father or a step mother.

It’s a long long way till those kids undeestand fully and things are almost certainly not going to be as they are now.

rhe only saving grace to be honest, is the book is full of a lot of petty shit. Some vague accusations, some dangerous comments over the Taliban, but past that it’s mainly silly arguments like borrowing lip gloss or shaving his beard. Bit of shoving and he said she said shit.

it’s laughable harry said it was of historic significance. How far up your own arse would you need to be.

This might sound horrible but I can’t see how such a self absorbed person can be good at putting their children first

The interview by Diana was an example- she was thinking about her own feelings nothing she revealed helped her children- she just wasn’t thinking about them

Harry can only live in his moment and doesn’t think things through

When I read about H and W, I want to learn more about how to help my own children get along better. I think H's books and movies are an expression of his anger.
For example, he felt like a spare all through his childhood. I think W felt this unconsciously. H might have even told W at some point that he wanted to be a king like him or that he didn't like being the second child. When H got into trouble, W always helped him. He was like his mother, and sometimes he helped him in a troubled situation. But H doesn't think that way anymore. He thinks that if W ever didn't agree with him, it meant that W didn't love him.

I also have one child who is much more rebellious than the others, so I spend a lot more time trying to set healthy limits for him. I need to tell him much more often that I love him, even if I'm mad at him.

How can I visualize W with his kids? I can see him trying to find ways to talk to a child who isn't the firstborn in a respectful and compassionate way. He might tell the child over and over that he loves him even though he's not the king and that he will always be accepted for who he is (Louis, Charlotte). This is a lot more important than what a person has materially. I would like H to do the same thing with his kids. This book shows a lot of frustration and anger, and right now it's all about making money because, for H, that is very important need at the moment. I want him to change, (as W wants to learn from all the pain and change for the better) because I think that would make him happier.

Exactly. It's absolutely tragic.

To be fair, it’ll be a relief from ‘The Bench’.

I don't think you need to worry about Harry's kids being teased at school re the pub scene. They are too young at the moment and this topic won't be so interesting to school kids by the time the are the right age.

Prince George, on the other hand, is 9 and plenty old enough for all his classmates to know all the details of his uncles life (and his parents and grandparents) and to tease him about it. Charlotte is probably also old enough too. Poor children. They are having an awful year of it- The Queen dying on their first day at school, which would have been totally othering as the hadn't settled in. And now all this media attention on from their uncle about his life and that of their parents.

Poor innocent children.

You’d think H of all people would have considered the impact on the children (both his and Williams) of these explosive tell all interviews and books. I mean he went through this himself as a child from both his parents and clearly suffered yet thinks nothing of doing exactly the same to the next generation. For someone who bleated on about so called generational pain he’s been exceptionally dim with this. At least with William you have the feeling he is genuinely trying to provide his children and the next generation with a different childhood. Albeit slowly introducing them to “duties” such as church walk etc but within a more controlled framework and loving family and without family drama (sadly efforts have been undermined by H’s drama). I feel sorry for the eldest children the most also. They aren’t young enough for this to go over their head and as much as they’ll be protected by those around them I’m sure it’s still reaching their little ears. Even the fact they no longer hear from Uncle Harry will have impacted them.

I was thinking earlier that I feel a bit sorry for the young Waleses. I remember hearing that kids in Prince George's class were teasing him with 'Haha, your nan's dead' when the Queen died - the same happened to me at about the same age when my close relative died, so I believed it and felt bad for him. Just imagine how many unpleasant conversations teachers in that school will be having to shut down atm, because the coverage is everywhere. Poor kids.