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What does Beyoncé mean by “generational curses”?!

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Inspecto · 15/12/2022 19:04

What does Beyoncé mean that Meghan “was selected to break generational curses that need to be healed

And who was Meghan selected by?

Do the royal family suffer from generational curses? What is it?

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/beyonce-meghan-markle-royal-curse-b2245707.html?amp

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Cherryana · 15/12/2022 20:26

Basically those things in alignment with love (joy, peace etc) spur good things and things contrary to love (hate, anger, bitterness) can both be passed on through families.

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 15/12/2022 20:28

I have heard of inter generational trauma. Is it similar?

yes, same thing. Inter = between. Between generations. Passed down from parent to child.

It can be as something like a traumatic thing happens to parent (maybe their parent dies young, they’re in an accident, they were in the holocaust or war experience etc), parent doesn’t have adequate support around them to help them cope, parent is therefore stressed or angry or withdrawn from the child, child experiences a scary aloneness growing up which leads to feeling unsafe and unsupported in the world, which can develop into abandonment issues, anxiety, depression etc.

When the child grows up and has a child, and still suffer from unaddressed mental health issues, that child also has a scary experience in childhood because mum/dad is preoccupied with mental health issues and not really present with them and might find themselves ‘triggered’ by the child’s needs as they didn’t get their needs met in childhood. (Read Dr Tsbary to understand this - The Awakened Family book). And so the cycle continues. All kicked off by one original traumatic event generations ago.

The Biblical concept is probably ancient wisdom based on people’s observations of what could happen between generations, before they had a scientific understanding of attachment theory and trauma etc. And they assigned the cause to man’s wrongdoing or a curse from God because they didn’t know any better. That’s why I recommend the doctors above as they will give you a modern understanding without the woo.

Meghan comes from LA/Californian culture where incidentally a lot of these doctors are from - they are much better versed in psychology and psychotherapy concepts over there than we are in the UK, so this is common parlance to her. I believe Harry and Meghan have mentioned having their own therapy in the past so Harry will have become familiar with psychology concepts too.

I don’t like the way they’re going about things and I do think she’s indoctrinated Harry a bit rather than letting him have his own journey and make up his own mind. And they’re both going through the anger phase (the Bible talked about that too - the story of the prodigal son - and I think on MN it plays out as going ‘no contact’). But I do see why they’re calling out the dysfunction in the royal family. It is inherently traumatic for people to have a role thrust on them from birth with no choice and agency in the matter if they don’t want to do that role. Gabor Maté talks about his own experience of being a workaholic to avoid his childhood ear trauma and how that had an effect on his son Daniel. H&M could have called it out a much more balanced and less sensationalist way and not divided people. I think some people sense the truth in what they say so support them, and other people are understandably turned off by the method in which they’ve done it and by the narcissistic/anger phase they’re in.

IMO! :)

Cherryana · 15/12/2022 20:36

This is sort of mumsnet at its best - people bringing what they know and together a richer picture or understanding is gleaned.

XanaduKira · 15/12/2022 20:52

That makes a lot of sense @Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink - thank you. My mums mum died when she was 12 and I often speak to my cousins about the impact this had on our mums and how messed up we think they still are (even though our mums are in their 70s now) & the detrimental impact it's had on their relationship with us (as mother / daughter).

Hopefully I'm not passing this into mg children, but having grown up at the height of the troubles in NI, my DH thinks I've a lot of issues that I've not addressed!

JaneJeffer · 15/12/2022 20:53

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 15/12/2022 19:45

I think she probably wonders that herself.

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RunLolaRun102 · 15/12/2022 21:35

The Establishment has always divided the heir and the spare. It’s an all or nothing approach and was passed down to Elizabeth / Margeret from her father and uncles then Charles / Andrew & now Meghan is helping Harry break it.

bakalava · 16/12/2022 11:29

@Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink That is a good summary.

There is no Christian dimension to it. It is grounded in gnosticism.

Georgeskitchen · 16/12/2022 12:11

RunLolaRun102 · 15/12/2022 21:35

The Establishment has always divided the heir and the spare. It’s an all or nothing approach and was passed down to Elizabeth / Margeret from her father and uncles then Charles / Andrew & now Meghan is helping Harry break it.

But Meghan hasn't broken the "establishment divide" between heir and spare. She has widened it. William and Harry (and Kate) were very close until he met Meghan . The Queens other children, with the exception of Andrew, seem to have fared OK knowing they would never be monarch, although my belief is that Anne would be a great Queen !!

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 16/12/2022 14:55

XanaduKira · 15/12/2022 20:52

That makes a lot of sense @Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink - thank you. My mums mum died when she was 12 and I often speak to my cousins about the impact this had on our mums and how messed up we think they still are (even though our mums are in their 70s now) & the detrimental impact it's had on their relationship with us (as mother / daughter).

Hopefully I'm not passing this into mg children, but having grown up at the height of the troubles in NI, my DH thinks I've a lot of issues that I've not addressed!

Self-compassion is so key! We all have issues we play out with our children, but bringing self-awareness and compassion to it is the way through.

Familyscapegoat15 · 18/12/2022 05:49

Family scapegoating abuse patterns or Family Mobbing” is a strategic process of power and control. When daughters are mobbed, they're not just shunned, attacked, or slandered: they're also subjugated by a system of family rules that reinforces patriarchal oppression.
Harry the true FAMILY SCAPEGOAT and MEG BY PROXY next family scapegoat…. Narcissistic Crüel ...
Daughters Healing from Family Mobbing by Stephanie A. Sellers, PHD

Familyscapegoat15 · 18/12/2022 05:53

Harry the family scapegoat - Meghan scapegoat by proxy - Family scapegoating or family ostracism is a narcissistic family behaviour patterns and was a book about family scapegoating of children 👧

What does Beyoncé mean by “generational curses”?!
maeveiscurious · 18/12/2022 09:59

I imagine that will be the last message Beyoncé sends of note

Familyscapegoat15 · 18/12/2022 18:52

Would Meghan have gotten permission to read out Beyoncé, text message? I think or hope she discussed using her name in her documentary first.

Familyscapegoat15 · 18/12/2022 18:57

The family has dysfunctional hierarchical behaviour patterns and not about unconditional love. The interview with Prince Andrew showed he had pathological perhaps narcissistic or entitlement behaviour. The scapegoating of Diana has transferred onto Harry - but yes Meghan have increased the scapegoat mechanism and they are never going to build a bridge as the existence of the CROWN 👑 HAS to live in an echo chambers of royal entitlement and power - loyalty to the crown 🤴 the special chosen ONE KING CHARLES, more important now.

CharityShopChic · 18/12/2022 18:59

I mean. Beyonce is a great singer and fabulous entertainer. An expert on the Royal Family, she ain't.

I wonder what Lady Gaga or Katy Perry think?

Familyscapegoat15 · 18/12/2022 19:03

Yes trauma or inherited Family scapegoating behaviour patterns. The ancestors of the Royal family beheaded their own family members and children. It’s the same family scapegoating blaming shaming and coercively controlling behaviour , but less obvious. The most violent place on earth is statistically within your own Family group. Perhaps 🤔 Harry was right to get out.

MarshaMelrose · 18/12/2022 19:09

I like Beyonce. Who'd have thought she sent such high fallutin texts and not just, "You did good. xxx. 👍"

I'm going to have to up my game. 🤔

MarshaMelrose · 18/12/2022 19:18

Familyscapegoat15 · 18/12/2022 19:03

Yes trauma or inherited Family scapegoating behaviour patterns. The ancestors of the Royal family beheaded their own family members and children. It’s the same family scapegoating blaming shaming and coercively controlling behaviour , but less obvious. The most violent place on earth is statistically within your own Family group. Perhaps 🤔 Harry was right to get out.

When did a royal last behead a family member? They never beheaded children - couldn't keep them still.
And when did a king or queen behead one of their adult children?

Toomuchschool · 18/12/2022 19:19

Familyscapegoat15 · 18/12/2022 19:03

Yes trauma or inherited Family scapegoating behaviour patterns. The ancestors of the Royal family beheaded their own family members and children. It’s the same family scapegoating blaming shaming and coercively controlling behaviour , but less obvious. The most violent place on earth is statistically within your own Family group. Perhaps 🤔 Harry was right to get out.

That’s quite a stretch given the last royal was executed in 1649, and that was by Oliver Cromwell and his cronies.

After more than 370 years, Harry’s neck was probably safe. 🤣🤣

purpledalmation · 18/12/2022 19:22

Talking a load of woke bollox about a country and institution she know nothing about

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