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The royal family

Queen or Queen Consort

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MegCleary · 27/11/2022 08:41

I’ve noticed on twitter when they put up links to stories they are calling Camilla the Queen, not the Queen Consort. Is this correct now? Are they the lead in the softening up for this?
All of the other outlets calling her Queen Consort still.

ps not bothered just curious and bored on a Sunday morning 🤔😆

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EverybodyDance · 27/11/2022 08:46

I'm calling her the Queen in general conversation. She is the queen isn't she? She's married to the King.

I thought the media didn't leap not calling her the queen straight away as it would have been confusing and disrespectful. But technically she's the Queen.

I'm still a bit confused sometimes when they say the Princess of Wales.

EverybodyDance · 27/11/2022 08:49

I've just been on the BBC app and they are calling her both. Queen Consort and Queen Camilla.

Queen or Queen Consort
JustLyra · 27/11/2022 08:56

The constant use of consort will drop as the time between her becoming Queen Consort and the death QEII increases. It was really only to differentiate between the two (and possibly to not stoke any anti-Camilla feelings). She is HM The Queen so just using Queen is perfectly correct.

RumpleDumple · 27/11/2022 08:56

You can say Queen Camila or The Queen Consort( I watched a tiktok on this 🤣).

YellowDots · 27/11/2022 08:58

RumpleDumple · 27/11/2022 08:56

You can say Queen Camila or The Queen Consort( I watched a tiktok on this 🤣).

Like The Princess Royal or Princess Anne.

Tontostitis · 27/11/2022 09:01

She's both hopefully they will drop it completely

Remainiac · 27/11/2022 09:03

Same with Charles really, loads of outlets calling him King Charles or King Charles III. He’s the King and Camilla is the Queen. They are the King and Queen, that’s how it works whether people are comfortable with it or not 🤷‍♀️. It’s not “confusing”, everyone knows QEII is dead.

savoycabbage · 27/11/2022 09:26

I think it would have been confusing in the first week. During the time when the media were saying 'the Queen is at Buckingham Palacel' or 'the queue to see the Queen'.

TwoRockSalmonAndAHaporthOfChips · 27/11/2022 09:29

savoycabbage · 27/11/2022 09:26

I think it would have been confusing in the first week. During the time when the media were saying 'the Queen is at Buckingham Palacel' or 'the queue to see the Queen'.

This is right.

Camilla is the Queen, in just the same way that the late Queen Mother was referred to as The Queen or Queen Elizabeth when her husband was on the throne.

We’re just all so used to having a Queen Regnant that it’s hard to get heads around the fact that the spouse of a king has always been a queen, and therefore associate the term with the monarch.

EdithWeston · 27/11/2022 09:32

She is correctly The Queen.

It is how she was referred to during the formal proclamation of Charles as King in front of the Privy Council.

You don't get more formal or correct that that.

She is of course his consort, and it's not wrong to use that version (and even the royal family still do much of the time). But yes I think with the passage of time it'll become less common to add the consort bit (as there will be less scope for confusion with the late ER II. Who is still much talked of, and who will no doubt feature heavily in end-of-year retrospectives,

JustLyra · 27/11/2022 09:40

savoycabbage · 27/11/2022 09:26

I think it would have been confusing in the first week. During the time when the media were saying 'the Queen is at Buckingham Palacel' or 'the queue to see the Queen'.

Exactly.

If they had announced that Charles was returning to London “accompanied by the Queen” rather than the Queen Consort people would have assumed he was accompanying his mother’s body back.

asblindasabat · 05/12/2022 18:36

If Camilla is titled The Queen despite not being Queen regnant, why was Prince Philip not the King or ‘King Consort’?

I have heard it is because King could be seen to be more important than Queen, but how? Surely King and Queen regnants are both equal?

PicturesOfDogs · 05/12/2022 18:40

asblindasabat · 05/12/2022 18:36

If Camilla is titled The Queen despite not being Queen regnant, why was Prince Philip not the King or ‘King Consort’?

I have heard it is because King could be seen to be more important than Queen, but how? Surely King and Queen regnants are both equal?

A King outranks a Queen.
There were three queens following King George’s death.
There is only ever one King.

MeJane · 05/12/2022 18:41

Well no, because they aren't equal.

asblindasabat · 05/12/2022 19:04

MeJane · 05/12/2022 18:41

Well no, because they aren't equal.

But how? I would have thought they were the same but just different names for male and female?

JustLyra · 05/12/2022 20:34

asblindasabat · 05/12/2022 19:04

But how? I would have thought they were the same but just different names for male and female?

They’re not the same. Royalty is a hierarchy. King is the most senior. Queen the next. If we don’t have a King then the Queen is the boss, if we do then he outranks her.

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