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Kerry Kennedy’s recent interview about H&M award - some thoughts……

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Glorified · 19/11/2022 12:12

I don’t think Kerry Kennedy’s characterisation of H&M’s actions from her recent interview (below) is accurate:

uk.style.yahoo.com/style/meghan-and-harry-royal-family-racism-kerry-kennedy-comments-164718226.html

"They went to the oldest institution in UK history and told them what they were doing wrong, that they couldn't have structural racism within the institution; that they could not maintain a misunderstanding about mental health."

The lawyer and human rights activist added that the Sussexes "knew that if they did this there would be consequences, that they would be ostracised, they would lose their family, their position within this structure, and that people would blame them for it.
"They have done it anyway," Kennedy said, "because they believed that they could not live with themselves if they did not question this authority. I think they have been heroic in taking this step."

What’s going on here? Is Kerry Kennedy just stepping in to defend her decision against recent public criticism of the H&M award (even by her own brother)…..?

Did H&M actually directly address the RF / institution around structural racism and unsupported MH or did they just drop those issues / concerns on a TV show for “bombshell” impact a year later in a fit of pique?

H&M pushed hard, as I understand it, to have a half in half out situation and it was only afterwards when this was proved problematic/unachievable that they left the RF and subsequently a year later first issued complaints publicly during the OW interview of racism and MM’s unsupported MH issues.

I am not questioning that these issues didn’t happen just that if they were so bad surely you wouldn’t try to stay half in with the institution or continue to be very publicly associated and identified with it by using the titles of a regime that oppressed you?

If H&M cared enough about racism in the family and institution they could have gone followed this up to address it and root it out - bring a formal complaint etc ironically that’s what this award is partly about - tackling racial injustice - it doesn’t look to me like they have managed their most tangible opportunity to do so directly.

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Glorified · 20/11/2022 00:48

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Yes there are many oppressed people in the UK who paid taxes from their minimum wages to keep H&M in their oppressed luxury and who’s relatives and ancestors were robbed and enslaved by the family M chose to marry into and whose identity she/they insist and persist in using to associate and brand themselves.

Perhaps these people are more deserving of the award?

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tatala · 20/11/2022 03:33

username8888 · 19/11/2022 18:07

Apparently this ripple award on 6 December isn't as prestigious or as valuable as the Earthshot award which William and Catherine will be giving on 2 December, also in America (Boston, home of the Kennedys). Earthshot is a Kennedy family award. I believe their is rivalry between the two branches of the Kennedy family making these awards, and wonder if the 'ripple' award is just a cheap shot at grabbing more headlines than the P&P of Wales? Earthshot also founded by David Attenborough

This is so WRONG. Ripple of Hope is THE KENNEDY family award.

Earth Shot was created by the Cambridges themselves not Attenborough, they are simply renting space from the Kennedy's to host their show.

An environmental award spending carbon emissions to give prizes out, please make it make sense.

Where do you get your information from?

tatala · 20/11/2022 03:34

Croque · 19/11/2022 20:17

You wonder when the day will come when they feel fully satisfied about having got it all off their chest and decide to move onto other topics so that they can demonstrate what talented, personable adults they are?
.. oh hang on 😉

Where have they complained now? Kerry said words, nothing to do with H&M.

tatala · 20/11/2022 03:40

Harry and Meghan do get more headlines than W&K by default, there's nothing they can do about that.

Some Brits are hooked on a diet of daily hate from the tabloids so the papers step up to meet their demands.

Even 'serious' papers like the Times can't write about W&K's visit to America without dragging H&M. It's the funniest thing to me.

Harry and Meghan trashed the monarchy. Can William and Kate win back American hearts?

Aspiringmatriarch · 20/11/2022 06:14

Glorified · 20/11/2022 00:48

Yes there are many oppressed people in the UK who paid taxes from their minimum wages to keep H&M in their oppressed luxury and who’s relatives and ancestors were robbed and enslaved by the family M chose to marry into and whose identity she/they insist and persist in using to associate and brand themselves.

Perhaps these people are more deserving of the award?

You must have missed the headlines about financial independence then? British taxpayers aren't funding Harry and Meghan.

Aspiringmatriarch · 20/11/2022 06:18

username8888 · 19/11/2022 13:39

The non-profit said that the Sussexes had received this award because the couple had "demonstrated a lifelong commitment to building strong and equitable communities, advancing the global dialogue around mental health, and advocating for a better world".

One can hardly say Harry has demonstrated a lifelong committment to the above with his drunken antics, or Meghan with her little suitcase and no mention of mental health until she was trapped in the palace without her passport etc, but its politics, its celebrity, it notoriety so its exactly what they need for their profile.

And the people who are genuinely working for the above can just get on with it without awards because they really are not what awards are about.

I agree they are figureheads in a sense and help to bring attention to these issues. But of course you've been very selective about their respective CVs there as I'm sure you know. Certainly, they both have a history of advocating for the above, before and during their marriage; whether you like or dislike them, or approve of their methods, I don't think you've chosen a very representative sample of what they've done. Would be very strange to give them the award if so!

QuebecBagnet · 20/11/2022 06:21

You must have missed the headlines about financial independence then? British taxpayers aren't funding Harry and Meghan

is Charles still financially supporting them at all? Because he was, from his “private income”. And let’s face it there would be no “private income” if it wasn’t for titles and positions he’d being gifted due to his birth. So maybe they’re not being directly funded by British taxpayers but they are being funded by them indirectly.

Glorified · 20/11/2022 07:33

Aspiringmatriarch · 20/11/2022 06:14

You must have missed the headlines about financial independence then? British taxpayers aren't funding Harry and Meghan.

I wrote in the past tense.

Does it clarify now that I have pointed it out to?

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MaulPerton · 20/11/2022 08:53

Is the term 'structural racism' ever defined in these circles or simply bandied about by people for political gain?

custardbear · 20/11/2022 09:14

I was about to say KK must be on their payroll- but it seems that her family are linked.
H&M deserve an award for lying, living a profligate lifestyle whilst trying to preach to the world 'do as I say not as I do' and as for the feminist inside MM she's happy to elevate herself off the back of a husband and a title she doesn't deserve - what an 'amazing advocate' she makes, Harry is a gutless puppet and should be ashamed of himself 🙄

Croque · 20/11/2022 09:20

Glorified · 20/11/2022 07:33

I wrote in the past tense.

Does it clarify now that I have pointed it out to?

Just because they bagged the spoils upfront, it does not mean that they are any less funded then if they had received it gradually like other family members do. Diana was from the aristocracy so her wealth came the same way as the RF. A non-hypocritical quitter would have left it all well alone - not purchased a mansion with it before pontificating from their tacky throne room in Cali.

Yesthatismychildsigh · 20/11/2022 09:31

The whole point of any of these silly awards is to publicise people. The givers and the receivers.

Croque · 20/11/2022 09:36

The Kennedys (the most powerful, Democrat family in the US) is simply rewarding those who publicly promote their causes and wider, global agenda. It's not really that surprising.

username8888 · 20/11/2022 09:41

@tatala That quote is from a magazine, so argue it with them, not me.

I was more interested with the incestuous relationship between the people awarding H&M the award.

username8888 · 20/11/2022 09:55

@tatala William and Catherine doesn't need to win over the Americans. American Polls show Catherine is already more popular the Meghan, and she doesn't live there or even have as high a profile in the media there.

sashagabadon · 20/11/2022 10:01

I think they are trying to change the narrative from the demands they made for a half in half out role where they kept all the good bits and ditched the boring bits ( and kept their security as “international protected people”) to one where they are brave warriors fighting the system at huge personal costs to themselves. I’m not buying it as I was alive in January 2020 and so know what happened!

Ohnonevermind · 20/11/2022 10:07

H&M are ‘woke social media warriors’ for hire, pay them (cash or awards) and they will use their social media minions and media contracts to raise your profile and that of your organisation

if you pay enough they will throw in a new tale of woe for your exclusive publication, but reading the small print you will note that there is no guarantee that the tale of woe is actually true but their fact checkers have established that it cannot be proven to be false

Readinginthesun · 20/11/2022 10:09

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Yet they wanted to stay within the organisation just not do the boring stuff . Oh and make lots of lovely money , accept freebies etc

Croque · 20/11/2022 10:15

Always complain, always explain
(even if the explanations frequently contradict one other)
💀

MollytheTrolleyDolly · 20/11/2022 10:16

Ohnonevermind · 19/11/2022 21:25

Zelensky and the Sussex’s sharing an award - seriously WTF.

😂I know. I'm embarrassed for them.

Readinginthesun · 20/11/2022 10:23

I do think that if they want any sort of reconciliation with the RF , they need to graciously decline this award .
Much as KC loves his son , I get the impression that he ( backed by W) could be quite ruthless if H and M push him too far .

username8888 · 20/11/2022 10:27

Readinginthesun · 20/11/2022 10:23

I do think that if they want any sort of reconciliation with the RF , they need to graciously decline this award .
Much as KC loves his son , I get the impression that he ( backed by W) could be quite ruthless if H and M push him too far .

Yes, if the Netflix documentary and Harry's book are negative, their titles and the kids titles, are at risk

Croque · 20/11/2022 10:53

It must be majorly awkward for KC. He was not directly parented himself, never directly parented H & W and believed that staff had got them through that rebellious phase.
All of a sudden, he gets two middle-aged teenagers pushing all of his buttons at once 😂

Glorified · 20/11/2022 12:15

They haven’t stood up to and addressed structural racism in the RF in any way, shape or form.

I am not doubting it exists and needs tackling and constant vigilance but to suggest throwing some shade in a interview after you flounced as a result of the fact that the oppressive regime didn’t give you what you wanted in material terms is standing up to racial inequality is at best a fanciful spin on events and at worst deeply patronising when all can see this as a direct contradiction of their own words and actions documented from that time.

This new narrative is both grandiose and delusional.

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Ohnonevermind · 20/11/2022 12:39

@Glorified

Very well put

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