AIBU to think they are over-egging the pudding a bit with Camilla's latest "rehabilitation"?

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I know this isn't AiBU but I am interested in the view of both royalists and republicans. (I am somewhere in the middle, veering towards republicanism.)

Fair enough the Queen declaring officially that Camilla will be Queen when Charles inherits the throne. I reluctantly concede that she has proved herself, doing the job of royal consort reasonably well, with well chosen causes, and I don't envy her having to take on the role of Queen consort at an age when most people are winding down and enjoying life a bit. It's a big commitment. Ditto the induction in to the Order of the Garter. I don't pretend to understand the significance of that but it is obviously meaningful to the RF.

But this latest video of her saying her parents taught her to be "considerate of others" is kind of ignoring the elephant in the room? Yes it was a long time ago, yes both Charles and Diana came from dysfunctional backgrounds and had unreasonable outside pressures put upon them, and yes Diana had affairs too, but I still think it takes a particularly hard sort of person to pursue an extra marital relationship so relentlessly when there are young children involved? Not very "considerate" in my view! Any decent or honourable person would have stepped back, moved abroad, absented themselves and she did none of those things. She bought a house close to Highgrove fhs! And it's fairly apparent that the ripple effect of the devastation caused is still being felt today (Harry etc) despite everyone's best efforts to make it appear as if it's been smoothed over!

Call me old-fashioned, but my view is that you can have all the beauty treatments and cosmetic dentistry and procedures you like in New York, and all the couture outfits and hats made for you in London, and Elizabeth II's approval, and the Order of the Garter bestowed upon you, but that doesn't make you an honourable person! But maybe my mistake is thinking that any of the RF should be more honourable than the average person? But I kind of think that to do the job well, you have to be nowadays! Maybe before press intrusion and mobile phone cameras and TV news, you could play the role of King or Queen and be a different person in your private life, but nowadays , with such an intense spotlight on you, you have to be the real article! I am just not convinced that Camilla, or Charles for that matter (who doesn't get to shake off responsibility for his role in the Diana debacle either) quite cut it!

Anyone else (who can be bothered to care) feel the same way?

Tatler here with an article about how Camilla made moves to befriend Diana.

www.tatler.com/article/princess-diana-camilla-parker-bowles-friendship-true-story-the-crown-season-4

Call me old-fashioned, but I do not think much of a woman's character when she befriended the wife of the man she was having an affair with.
I do not think people really change in terms of their values. Someone who thought it was fine to be so manipulative years ago will still think it is fine today.
Catherine had better not get on the wrong side of her.

Yes.

The whole thing stank to high heavens and people commenting on Diana having affairs also. Well, those came much later as a result of there being 3 people in her marriage. She was set up from the very start and even if Charles didn’t continue to see Camilla in the early days of his marriage it was Camilla who had his heart. Have people forgotten about the bangle Diana found days before the wedding that she thought was for her, only it was for Camilla.

Can’t bear her or him. I have no time for cheaters, same for Hollywood celebs, when I find out they are cheaters I avoid watching their films/shows etc (like Dominic West).

Given the King and those in the line of succession supposedly have a divine right, or God's mandation to rule, rather than a democratically elected head of state, you’d think they’d have to follow the bibles teaching and be good Christians.

Just goes to show the whole lot should be done away with.

It is funny how when celebrities cheat we are supposed to see it as unimportant. But when it happens amongst ordinary people you know people judge very harshly.

I agree.

Disinterest is no good. We have to actively like them to keep the RF going. It's what they feed off of, it's how they can get away with increasing the Royal Grant year on year. When we slide into not caring one way or the other, they're in trouble.

I have no feelings on Camilla or even Charles. I don't care about them, I don't care if I never see them again, I am just not interested in them. They don't do anything for me, or for the country AFAIC. They're just there, part of an outdated stuck in the past Monarchy.
Before any criticism comes my way, that is far better than the hate directed at some members of the RF.

I’m not a royalist and would like to bin the lot of them, but I quite like Camilla. She’s good at what she does as far as I can see.

Charles’ biggest mistake in life was marrying Diana.

I will never accept her and I dislike Charles too
I’d actually rather we abolished the monarchy after the queen. The rest are just ugh.

Well, I think Camilla seems like a fantastic person - would love to go for a G&T with her - and she will do well as Queen Consort. We all make mistakes in life, and the Diana years are ancient history, so it should just be a case of "live and let live".

It is now over 20 years since Diana died, may she rest in peace.

Ever since Charles and Camilla married you sensed that one day it would be Queen Camilla, I think better to be open about it now.

Diana was unstable. If Charles had been told she was bulimic as a teenager he would have run a mile. The grandmothers arranged it between them and it was a massive mistake for both of them.

She took several lovers because she was unhappy. I can't say I blame her. He went back to his first love.

I really like Camilla. She will be a far better queen that Diana would have been.

Yes and she knew how young and naive Diana was and totally used that for her own benefit.

I can't stand her. And I won't forgive or forget. She'll never be "queen" to me. And I'm not some mad Diana fan either. I totally recognise her faults too. I just think Camilla was a selfish bitch and likely hasn't changed.

I’m not a royalist and would like to bin the lot of them, but I quite like Camilla. She’s good at what she does as far as I can see

I am a Royalist and I agree that she’s good at what she does.

And like another poster I think she’d be good company over a drink or on a night out.

But, I can’t stand cheats and I’d much prefer Her and Charles to go off and retire to the country rather than take the throne when the Queen is no longer with us.

I don’t hate them though. I just won’t airbrush their history.

Good to see that having a mental illness i.e. eating disorder and depression is still being described negatively as unstable.
Mental health awareness still has a long way to go. Having a mental health illness should not be a slur you know?

I didn't approve of all the infidelities in the quartet of Charles and Di, and Camilla and Andrew.

But it was now a long time ago. People change, move on, become better people. If anyone who'd ever committed adultery was career-limited or precluded from the top position, there'd be a small pool of people available.
Camilla seems kind and relaxed with people, with a natural empathy.

I do not hate her. But I think her actions show her real character. She was manipulative and untrustworthy.

But she has fantastic pr people and an excellent dresser. In spite of not being the best looking Royal woman, she is consistently dressed the best taking into account her figure and age. She is virtually always dressed in elegant and flattering dresses.

I know it's only 'I think' Camilla would be a laugh on a night out and a few drinks.

I have read this a few times about her and find it totally bizarre. We only see what they want us to see. They reveal just the bits they want to a desperate MSM who spoonfeed us a diet of royals.

She could be horrible for all we know (not saying SHE IS). She could be boring for all we know (not saying SHE IS). Or she could be what is portrayed to us in the press... a woman who speaks her mind and could be OK.

If anyone who'd ever committed adultery was career-limited or precluded from the top position, there'd be a small pool of people available

I think there are more people who haven’t committed adultery than there is those who have.

It is not even about having an affair. It is about being manipulative.
Time passes, but one thing I have learned is that people's characters do not really change, even over many decades.

Someone having an affair because they were lonely and feeling unloved, has a very different character from someone who befriends the wife of the ma they are having an affair with.

People can think about what they want of Camilla. But if I was Catherine I would be making sure that Camilla was a "friend" and not an enemy. She is someone I think you do not want to have against you.

As you go up the social and economic pyramid, the numbers of people who have been unfaithful increase. More money to play away, more opportunity, less social opprobrium?

Not saying this is acceptable and obviously doesn't apply to everyone in higher social classes, btw.

I think morals are far looser higher up the economic classes. Drug taking also seems far more common as is daytime drinking.

I have no respect for either of them and think they will be an embarrassment as King and Queen.

I disagree. Their pr people are bloody excellent. They will manage their public image very well.

I think that Charles will be an excellent King. I don't think that William would thank anyone for making him King early. I imagine that William wants to enjoy his time with his young family before he becomes King. Charles has been talking about global warming since 1970. He has had his own interests which he has championed when they were seen as eccentric.
Camilla concentrates on charities like abused partners, osteoporosis and champions reading. I think they are a very suited couple. Also, despite somebody's taxi driver relative saying differently I believe Charles that they didn't get back together until his and Diana's marriage had broken down.
When their marriage broke down he returned to his first love who had an unfaithful husband. Diana had many affairs including with married men.

I haven’t paid much attention but did see the tea cup pic the other day

I thought if ever there was someone who landed on their feet getting what they were after

She was loathed but it seems to have switched