Who advised the Queen to walk into the Abbey escorted by Andrew??

[TinyTortoise]

This seems to be the most tone deaf and damaging decision. It's a public facing event with international leaders and royals. If it was a closed family gathering I could understand it - he is her son still- but why on earth would they allow him to escort her to her seat?! He should be invisible from now on and never represent the RF again. He could have attended and stood somewhere out of the way. She could have chosen anyone to escort her. It's staggeringly awful!

@MrsSugar

She’s prob trying to keep an eye on the cunt

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I dislike the green immensely, but think HM can walk in with whom ever she chooses. Andrew is her son and although the case was settled out of Court (despite VG saying money wasn’t relevant)he wasn’t found guilty in a Court of Law.

@Tetherless good point

@gluenotsoup

It’s Edinburgh Green, the colour of his personal livery, and the colour of the Land Rover that carried the coffin. It’s a nod to that, and interestingly seems to be worn mostly by the most senior Royal women from many countries today. 😊=smug face cos I predicted it.

Ahh how nice

He's her son, it's his dad's memorial. He's also the only one who is single (well publicly single who knows in private) . I don't think it means anything more than a son helping his frail mother who is stubborn and won't use a wheelchair.

Won’t be seen in a wheelchair because of how it looks but is happy to be escorted by her son who fraternises with convicted sex offenders and paid off a woman he claims he never met.

Think about the message that sends.

@BoredZelda

He's her son, it's his dad's memorial. He's also the only one who is single (well publicly single who knows in private) . I don't think it means anything more than a son helping his frail mother who is stubborn and won't use a wheelchair.

Won’t be seen in a wheelchair because of how it looks but is happy to be escorted by her son who fraternises with convicted sex offenders and paid off a woman he claims he never met.

Think about the message that sends.

Yep. I wonder if people would be quick to defend their next door neighbour in similar circumstances

She isn't the old, innocent woman most people paint her out to be. She's old school, privileged and entitled. He's her son and rumoured favourite, so she overlooks his idiocy at best or worst heinous actions? Press wise noone will focus on it but yes it was tone deaf. If it was a family event it could have been held behind closed doors, instead it was public, with royalty from across the world attending and her rumoured peado son was present.

The green outfits were Edinburgh green in respect to the Duke of Edinburgh

I admired the Queen for her decision to have PA escort her in - it tells the world I am a mother and he is still my son. Also as others had said it meant that he did not parade with the other royals - he entered and left quietly. A very clever well thought out decision.

Time to be done with the circus that is the RF. What little respect I had for the queen has disappeared after seeing her full on support of her peado son.

Disgusting decision, new depths for the RF today.

StupidUsernameUnavailable, 'tone deaf' and 'optics' are as tedious as 'hard-working families' and 'unprecedented'.
After Prince Andrew put the Queen into her seat he did nip to the middle of the aisle and wave and grin to lots of people but I think I was the only person who saw that bit. Gosh, the Queen has lost so much respect from people today, who are so staggered.

The seating was perfect. The Queen's children and any spouses sat next to her in order of their birth years and so Andrew conveniently was on the second set of seats.

He's not a paedo.

Ok brace yourself guys I’m going to say what I think :
Andrew was a hot eligible rich man who was used to women dropping at his feet
Yuck he slept with a 17 year old and big big yuck he had a pedo as a friend but I have unwittingly know a pedo too
it is reasonable that it would not have known the young lady was trafficked or groomed
He has been punished end of and let him walk his mum into his dads memorial and hold her casket when she dies then he can disappear

It signals that he has her full support. She's obviously going to take the ship down with her.
The optics on this are appalling.

@Emmyren4

I think she's given her whole life to The Monarchy

@LondonWolf

I always wonder when people say this exactly what they mean. I eellike she's actually lived an incredibly interesting life of wealth, privilege, travel and adventure, all due to no accomplishment of her own except being born. Would she have preferred to give her life to cleaning the loos in underground stations? Becoming a doctor? A telemarketer? What has she given up?

I recall she once said she would have liked to live a quiet life on a farm estate but felt her duty was to inherit the Crown. And her father died rather sooner than she would have liked, so she didn’t have the chance to live out of the Royal spotlight for as long as she would have preferred.

Undoubtedly privileged, not infallible, often out of touch with ordinary people but meh….I can’t begrudge her choosing to have all her family with her at her husband’s memorial when she sat alone at his funeral.

Definitely time to seriously prune the monarchy when she dies, though.

What's a peado? Grows in a field.

He has been punished end of

End of? Because you said so?

I don’t think so.

To be fair to Andrew, he has never been accused of paedophilia.The young woman who accused him was of age in this country and possibly in the jurisdiction she was in (can't remember now as the age of consent varies in the US from state to state) and she certainly wasn't pre-pubescent, which is the definition of paedophilia. That doesn't stop him from being an associate of a known sex trafficker.

He's not a paedo

No, he's (or was) a friend of one ... much like his older brother, except with him it was several

He is still her son. It was a memorial for her husband. You don't stop loving your child because they did something bad.

I really like the Queen, but I wish she had got Edward to walk her down, and not Andrew , I really don’t want to see him , hopefully once the queen passes, hopefully The new king will get rid of him , send him to a estate house at Balmoral or some other estate, and tell him that he and not one else want to see him.

@LittleGwyneth

He is still her son. It was a memorial for her husband. You don't stop loving your child because they did something bad.

Yes but loving someone doesn’t mean you get a free pass when you’re in such a visible public role. This would have been completely different if it had been a closed family only memorial. He was walking her in live on national tv.

No matter whether he had escorted her in or not, certain groups were always going to try to turn the memorial event into a chance to comment on Andrew. It's to take the focus away from the event and all the people speaking positively about the RF.

I'm not a monarchist but after the Queen had to sit on her own at Philip's funeral, I think she was entitled to have anyone she liked at the memorial. And tbh I don't begrudge the people who worked with Prince Philip having an opportunity to talk about how the Duke of Edinburgh scheme changed their lives, etc.

[quote Twizbe]@Blossomtoes I hope we don't get rid of the monarchy.

I'm from a town in Cambridgeshire that was once home to Oliver Cromwell. We still have his statue pointing down disapprovingly in the market place. It didn't sound much fun being a republic.[/quote]
I got married in the church next to that statue! And I live very close to you. I absolutely agree with you, I don’t want mince pies to be pagan and idolatrous things again. 😉

Disgraceful decision.
I'm the opposite of a royalist, but I do (did) like the Queen - however, she has plummeted in my estimation over this tone-deaf, utterly offensive decision, on such a public-facing day. Shameful.