Spotify and Archewell

[Chilledchablis1]

Statement issued by Archewell raising concerns about Spotify . If H and M decide to jump ship ( before - possibly- being pushed) there will be a lot of money to repay . Interesting .

@smilesy

Don't know what you mean by Better Up, who have accredited Harry for their success

Mainly because they got a lot of publicity due to his celebrity.

He knows Sentebale and Invictus are productive and successful.

I know that PepsiCo, Microsoft and many other companies are productive and successful. I wouldn’t be remotely qualified to give a lecture about productivity based on that knowledge.

Were you a founder of Microsoft or Pepsi? What an odd comment.

Were you a founder of Microsoft or Pepsi? What an odd comment

No of course not. I was just using them as an example of successful companies. Just because you know about a company or charity being productive or successful, it does not make you qualified to give a lecture on the subject. Harry has been involved in these companies of course, but that does not mean he knows why they are successful or productive. There are people who study that sort of thing and give lectures. Harry is not one of them. Being a founder of a company or charity does not automatically mean you know about productivity, especially if you are not involved on a day today basis. That was my point.

Sorry, I meant Harry has been involved in the two charities mentioned previously.

@niveaessential

they're probably finding it hard to get talent to work with them on any type of projects. I bet most scripts or content pitched to them is about the royal family in some way, which I'm sure they reject.

Not so far! It’s their main subject of conversation!

*He was. referring to how people are there for each other. He said as tough as times are during Covid, people are actually there for each other.

Where did you dig this old story out from.*

"It’s also proving that I think things are better than we’re led to believe through certain corners of the media. It can be very worrying when you’re sitting there and the only information you are getting is from certain news channels, but then if you are out and about or you are on the right platforms, you can really sense this human spirit coming to the forefront.’"

He did comment on people coming together but in the first half of that statement he said that the media is overblowing things. Just like Covid deniers were saying at the time despite people in hospitals and care homes going through a horrific time. Bit rich criticising Joe Rogan when he made his own insensitive comments downplaying the terrible experience that some people were experiencing

*Spotify (one of their production arm, Gimlet) were the ones who produced the first podcast. So assuming that H&M may have wanted more women/people of colour etc.

H&M never said how much their contract is worth or any obligations that go with it. *

Wasn't Archewell Audio created for the purpose of producing podcasts for Spotify? I seem to recall some press release about people being hired to manage that side of their business?

Spotify teased further podcast content for 2021 in press releases so wondering when it might drop isn't unfair.

Well you just quoted a whole paragraph, then promptly took out a piece and ignored the whole paragraph, so you can drive your own narrative. Ok. Whatever.

Most people thought we would be through with the pandemic by 2021. Was MM pregnant early 2020 anyway?

Don't know why you think Archewell Audio would be exclusive to Spotify.

Harry has been involved in these companies of course, but that does not mean he knows why they are successful or productive.

Don't know why you would say this.

Do you reckon that a CEO of a company for example knowns nothing about his company because he does not go work down at the factory? You think senior management does not know why their company is productive, because well, they don't do the manual work?

I didn’t say he knows nothing rubics. I said I doubt he knows enough to give a lecture when he has not been involved in this side of things. I’m sure you yourself have often wondered how much a royal is actually involved in the day to day running of a charity that they have put their name to. Harry was involved in Invictus and Sentebale mainly when he was a working royal, so why would he know about productivity in sufficient depths to give a lecture?

at Harry giving a lecture on productivity. Boris will be lecturing us on temperance and moral standards next.,

@ rubicscubicle

Once more I admire your determination to defend H and M regardless but it is a fact that Spotify announced ( after the Christmas podcast) that there would be more items in 2021. Although not announced officially, M must have known she was pregnant at the time of that announcement?
Another fact is that nothing further has been forthcoming and here we are in February 2022

Harry was involved in Invictus and Sentebale mainly when he was a working royal

Harry still organises the polo charities which he takes part in, that raised more than 3M last year.

As I said @Chilledchablis1, among other things they are working on, MM had a baby in 2021. It's clear that Spotiify has no problems with them, so I assume they signed a very flexible contract.
What do you care anyway if they release a podcast or not, you don't even like them.

@ rubicscubicle
I don’t really care . I certainly don’t hate them before you suggest that but I do dislike some of their behaviour ( OW etc)
As far as Spotify is concerned, it doesn’t affect me at all what they do . I listened to 10minutes of their only podcast and thought it was dire but what do I know ? However , like you, I am entitled to my opinion .
What did irk me was the statement which ( to me) reeked of hypocrisy. Surely if they were so concerned about Spotify’s ethics they would walk?
We shall see what happens next but it wouldn’t surprise me if the arrangement was “ mutually “ ended.

@rubicscubicle
Don't know why you think Archewell Audio would be exclusive to Spotify.

Maybe because that's what it says on Archewell's and Spotify's websites.

They need to sort out where their priorities lie, is it making money (which is fair enough we all have bills to pay) or philanthropy/good causes/giving something back to those less fortunate.

If it’s the former then it’s probably not a good business decision to bite the hand that feeds you (Spotify), if the latter is more important to you then maybe setting up 11 shell companies in Delaware so less of your taxes go into government provided services (eg state welfare services and health services) is not sending the right ‘giving something back’ message.

I’m finding it difficult to see how it’s possible to do both at the same time without showing double standards/hypocrisy. They may prove me wrong but they certainly have their work cut out.

They are not concerned about Spotify ethics, though are they?

They were talking directly about Rogan and his specific podcast content. They are just an audio broadcaster with lots of people attached, good or bad. Think of it this way, William had problems with BBC ethics regarding his mother (something that directly impacts him personally in this case), didn't stop him from working with them for his earthshot.

Not too sure why Spotify would hire people for them recently, and suddenly things end. Maybe that is your wish, but I highly doubt that is going to happen any time soon.

Rogan wasn’t mentioned in their recent statement, only Spotify .

Well Spotify is the platform.

Sorry to be pedantic @ rubicscubicle but you said
“They were talking directly about Rogan and his specific podcast content. “

yes, they were, as early as last year. I linked on here both the articles and audio of Harry referring to Rogan.

if the latter is more important to you then maybe setting up 11 shell companies in Delaware so less of your taxes go into government provided services (eg state welfare services and health services) is not sending the right ‘giving something back’ message.

We have no idea of their companies, since they never released anything. You are stating 11 companies, are these registered under their names or are you assuming? and why?

What is clear is that even if they are saving on tax, they are still giving the money back to the charities of their choosing.

I’m finding it difficult to see how it’s possible to do both at the same time without showing double standards/hypocrisy. They may prove me wrong but they certainly have their work cut out.

Strange that you single them out, when they at least do their taxes in the US, unlike the Queen whose companies are in the Caymen Islands. This is a head of state and a head of the church.

We have no idea of their companies, since they never released anything. You are stating 11 companies, are these registered under their names or are you assuming? and why?

A Google search shows that they have registered 11 companies in Delaware, using various names that are personal to them such as “Cloverdale” ( the street Meghan lived in as a child) and Peca which was a childhood nick name meaning freckles.

Ok, so you have no evidence then, just speculation about random names.

@StormzyinaTCup

They need to sort out where their priorities lie, is it making money (which is fair enough we all have bills to pay) or philanthropy/good causes/giving something back to those less fortunate.

If it’s the former then it’s probably not a good business decision to bite the hand that feeds you (Spotify), if the latter is more important to you then maybe setting up 11 shell companies in Delaware so less of your taxes go into government provided services (eg state welfare services and health services) is not sending the right ‘giving something back’ message.

I’m finding it difficult to see how it’s possible to do both at the same time without showing double standards/hypocrisy. They may prove me wrong but they certainly have their work cut out.

I suspect this is their main dilemma. They do like control of the narrative and seem to wish to be seen as movers and shakers who hold great weight in the social justice movement while also making shed loads of cash! These are difficult aims to reconcile.

The Joe Rogan controversy has come at the perfect time for them to save face by jumping on that bandwagon, in order to be able to bow out of their Spotify obligations citing differences in values blah blah blah.

I laughed at the pomposity of their statement. Who cares what they think about it? . Like many criticising JR I suspect that they've never really listened to him - his podcasts run 3-4 hours - so don't really have much of an idea of what he's about.

Don't bother coming for me (as my teen dd would say) @rubicscubicle. I can't be bothered with a circular discussion with no hope of any kind of worthwhile outcome today thanks 😊

I think it’s more than speculation rubics. Their lawyer has registered the companies in their name according to state filings. Peca holds the publishing rights to “The Bench”. Meghan’s business manger also appears in the filings.