Queen to spend millions funding Prince Andrew's defence

[adrianmolesmole]

I seriously think this will damage her reputation.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-prince-andrew-epstein-millions-legal-case-b1931084.html

Whole family is a joke.

Again, the Sovereign Grant is 25% of the Crown Estate profits. So of course as profits go up, their share goes up. It has has record years up to the pandemic. The Sovereign Grant is not a fixed income

Maybe some 'giving back' might be in order. Everyone has suffered during Covid. Not the RF and their finances though.

What a clear and thoughtful message it would send out to the general public if they put some of their 'share', their eye wateringly enormous wealth back into the country.
Sadly they will never ever do that.

@SprayedWithDettol

Where does the money generated by the Duchy of Lancaster and Cornwall come from do you think? It’s from rents paid by tenants who live on their land and who will never get a chance to buy their homes.

Well exactly, Sprayed.

The money doesn't gush out of a magic Lancastrian volcano.

@Roussette

Plan you might like to extend the myth that the taxpayer pays nothing for the RF. It is untrue.

A report in 2019 revealed that Queen Elizabeth II and her family cost the British people £67 million during the previous year.

A Sovereign Grant report showed that the royal household received £7 million from the Royal Collection Trust in 2018, with total royal expenses from the family coming in at £67 million.

Accounts for the Sovereign Grant, which funds the Queen and her household’s official expenses, show the monarchy cost the taxpayer £67m during 2018-19 – an increase of almost £20m in the previous financial year.

And Plan this is from the Sovereign Grant Accounts.

Officials expenses are those expenses a government would have to pay for any head of state even an elected one. Official expenses are things like security, travel, accommodation for diplomatic events and missions. The expenses the RF incur doing official government duties.

@Roussette

Again, the Sovereign Grant is 25% of the Crown Estate profits. So of course as profits go up, their share goes up. It has has record years up to the pandemic. The Sovereign Grant is not a fixed income

Maybe some 'giving back' might be in order. Everyone has suffered during Covid. Not the RF and their finances though.

What a clear and thoughtful message it would send out to the general public if they put some of their 'share', their eye wateringly enormous wealth back into the country.
Sadly they will never ever do that.

75% of their profits isn’t enough? What tax rate do you pay? What about Jeff Bezos? And other billionaires, what tax rate are they paying?

@PlandeRaccordement. Not talking about C Estates. The Duchy of Lancaster has its own government minister.

Why?

So are you trying to say that an elected head of State would cost the same as the Royal Family?
This Royal Family with twenty seven palaces and castles through the UK?
Imagine the cost of the upkeep on these places. The gardeners, the staff, the repairs and renovations... I mean look at Royal Lodge where PA lives.
£7.5million was spent on his renovations.. to include an indoor swimming pool, cinema etc

I don't think we'll be anywhere near the realms of that with an elected head of state....

Its going to be difficult when she comes with a begging bowl asking for more money when money is bring spent on this. But there isn't money for building repairs. Maybe she should do a deal with Netflix.

Plan
We are not talking about Jeff Bezos or my tax returns. We are talking about the unique finances of the Royal Family.

I think it is unlikely he will go to the US and cooperate. It would be utter madness for him to do so, so I guess his best option is to use his lawyers to stonewall and delay as long as is possible and try and get the case overthrown on technicalities. My understanding is that the burden of proof is much lower in a civil case.

I suspect in the meantime he will lay as low as possible in the UK.

I really hope this PA disgrace marks the start of the intense national and public scrutiny of the RF that needs to happen.

The longer the monarchists keep denying that this toxic moneygrabbing culture even exists and instead keep fudging the issue, the more painful the wake up call is going to be and the more money we will be wasting on these parasites.

Why is he not paying for it himself?

Where does the money generated by the Duchy of Lancaster and Cornwall come from do you think? It’s from rents paid by tenants who live on their land and who will never get a chance to buy their homes.

Its not RFs fault there is a housing crisis. It’s says in their report that they did help tenants put who couldn’t pay rent due to Covid
“The Crown Estate offered a total of £53.7 million of targeted financial support across its London and Regional portfolios customers for whom this help could make the greatest difference. This included revised payment frequencies, rent deferrals and a subsequent package of rent-free periods.”

@Roussette

So are you trying to say that an elected head of State would cost the same as the Royal Family? This Royal Family with twenty seven palaces and castles through the UK? Imagine the cost of the upkeep on these places. The gardeners, the staff, the repairs and renovations... I mean look at Royal Lodge where PA lives. £7.5million was spent on his renovations.. to include an indoor swimming pool, cinema etc

I don't think we'll be anywhere near the realms of that with an elected head of state....

Yes, because you’d not let such history just crumble to nothing....or would you?

Apparently he has no 'private means'. But his £17.6million swiss chalet is nearing a sale, supposedly.
That's the one with the £7M lawsuit on it. That was either paid off by the Queen or still not settled. There are conflicting reports on it.
How he afforded this in the first place, god alone knows.
I read he had a mortgage on it?
Again, it is very hard to establish facts on this, it is well hidden.

@Roussette

Plan We are not talking about Jeff Bezos or my tax returns. We are talking about the unique finances of the Royal Family.

Again, they live on 25% of Crown Estate profits and 75% goes to HM Treasury to benefit U.K. taxpayers. How is this an unfair split? If it were a fully privately owned commercial business, the RF would be keeping 81% and only paying 19%.

Yes, because you’d not let such history just crumble to nothing

Eh?

Of course not. What about the NT for instance? Or allowing public access to far more which would help fund upkeep.

Obviously they believe he will get off and then that they can mount an enormous PR campaign to sort out his image.

That will be amusing to watch Tin.

There is no going back from this I think. The public understandably would not stand for it.

their eye wateringly enormous wealth back into the country.

Please. The Queens net worth is £365m. She is not even in the top 250 richest people in the UK. Perhaps you should be whining about all these others? After all #250 is Tom Gibbon with £613m, almost twice the wealth of the Queen. #1 is Sir Leonard Blavatnik with £23bn

www.thetimes.co.uk/sunday-times-rich-list

@Roussette

Yes, because you’d not let such history just crumble to nothing

Eh?

Of course not. What about the NT for instance? Or allowing public access to far more which would help fund upkeep.

National Trust is £200m in debt. Not sure you can count on them!

Maybe her savings need to be means tested. Everybody else's are. And what about death duties. She's exempt from those as well.

I'd bet good money that Andrew is threatening to 'take people down with him'.

Plan because my opinion is different to yours I'm 'whining'?
I haven't been rude to you, perhaps you can offer the same courtesy to me.

There is a book you need to read...by Norman Baker "and so what do you do"

You will learn a lot from it. I did.
Her wealth is far more than that

PlanDeRaccordement

No you’re not.

Oh, yes we are.

It's become a pantomime.

Rousette

Won't it just?