Prince Andrew has bolted to Balmoral

[Viviennemary]

This according to guess who. The DM of course. To avoid getting papers served says the article. Maybe he's just gone for a nice break. Accompanied by Fergie.

Do t be daft nightlystroll

I could bring o mind many bits of his carcrash interview because it's so horrendous.
However I go and check it cos I know to my cost I get pulled up on everything I say if I get one wrong word.
So Google Maitlis interview PA, control find the bit you want, voilà. Takes 20 seconds

Are we now getting criticised for being accurate????

@SpindleWhorl Not if the police didn't deliver it to the right address. The police could go on FB and make an announcement that I'm going to be served or I have been served but if I can prove I didn't receive it, then a public notice doesn't mean anything. It the police's responsibilty to make secure service not mine. I've been in the situation where service in person on an individual has taken place at the correct address and it turned out that two people had the same name living there. Service was void. Not the accused fault. They have no responsibility in the service process. And because the accused didn't speak up so it wasn't til a witness pointed it out in court on the day of the trial, the case got dismissed. So here the defendant wasn't a fool.

@Roussette

Are we now getting criticised for being accurate????

I didn't criticise. 🤷 I laughed.

As an unrelated example, I vaguely remember Billie Eilish praising someone else when winning a Grammy. Googled it and within literally less than ten seconds got this result which I could have then copied and pasted. It's not a novel concept to either have a good memory or ability to google...

You are playing devils advocate.
Royal Mail is proper service. It is satisfactory as long as there is proof of postage. Otherwise there would be no successful sanctions for driving offences.

Can anyone be accurate about this question, please? When Epstein was getting his assistants to ring up the under-age girls to come round and give him a massage, and then pay them hundreds of dollars for it (in the indictment), did any of them continue to work like that for him when they were over age? If they said they didn't want to work for him any more were they threatened, and if so, how? I could find an indictment all right but I was looking for evidence given and I didn't find any - perhaps put the wrong words into Google.

@Nightlystroll

Just as bad then

@Roussette. Oh OK. 🙄

@upinaballoon

Gosh

Not sure how to answer this

These were young desperate and vulnerable girls who were recruited from schools and trailer parks. They were groomed, coerced and promised dreams beyond their wildest imaginations.

Forget their ages, that is immaterial, they were vulnerable.
I left home at a very young age so I get it. With all due respect, you don't

@MummyJ12

You are playing devils advocate. Royal Mail is proper service. It is satisfactory as long as there is proof of postage. Otherwise there would be no successful sanctions for driving offences.

Maybe for a semi in Basingstoke, but obviously not for the Royal Lodge at Windsor. And I think we've found that the court in New York agreed with me not you. 😈

Yeah but what the court in New York wanted has now happened - the High Court in London has accepted a role in ensuring service.

He will be considered served in 7 days, like it or not. By his mum's courts of justice.

But they didn’t serve via Royal Mail did they? So you don’t have a point 😈

@MummyJ12

But they didn’t serve via Royal Mail did they? So you don’t have a point 😈

You said it should be served by Royal Mail, not me. I used to serve in person. Soooo....

But they did try to serve in person 🙄 this is exhausting!

I agree with you Nightlystroll, you need to step away from the thread! 😂

@SpindleWhorl. I dont have any argument with sueing PA. I don't have any argument with serving PA. But I also don't have any argument with PA avoiding being served. Such is the life of process serving. All I said was that they are inept to have not served him properly the first time.

There's honourable and stupid. You'd have to be stupid to go to court if you don't need to. As soon as he's in court he's lost even if he wins the case. Whereas she has won even if she loses the case. So best case scenario for him is to avoid court altogether.

There is apparently also ignorance of what a judgement in default could entail, and ignorance of what contempt of court is, and what it can entail.

@MummyJ12

But they did try to serve in person 🙄 this is exhausting!

They tried but they failed. Not PA's fault. You're right, I need to step away. So stop messaging me 🤫 and I'll stop replying. 🤐

I wonder if the case will hinge on the fact she has already been paid a substantial amount to not make any more accusations. But the exact wording of the agreement hasn't been seen.

There is apparently also ignorance of what a judgement in default could entail, and ignorance of what contempt of court is, and what it can entail.

You can't be in contempt if you weren't served properly.

www.cnbc.com/2021/09/10/prince-andrew-served-with-suit-by-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-giuffre-in-sex-case.html

Prince Andrew of Britain was served with a lawsuit filed by an American woman who accuses him of having sex with her when she was underage, during the same time she also was being abused by his friend Jeffrey Epstein, a new court filing revealed Friday.

Andrew, who is the Duke of York, was served with the civil suit filed by Virginia Giuffre on Aug. 27 in England, according to that filing in Manhattan federal court.

The document, an affidavit by a process server engaged by Giuffre’s legal team, says the suit was left with a police officer on duty at the gates of the Royal Lodge in Windsor, a property occupied by Andrew.

The affidavit said that when the process server tried to give Andrew the lawsuit a day earlier, a police officer told him that “security there had been instructed not to allow anyone” onto the grounds thee to serve the prince with the suit, or to accept service on his behalf.

On Aug. 27, the process server wrote that he was told that the suit could be left with a police officer at the Royal Lodge “and that this matter would then be forwarded on to the Legal Team.”

An affidavit filed with the court is a sworn testimony.

If it is true that security was specifically instructed not to accept service, and instructions were given for an alternative venue for service, but service continues to be denied, then PA is playing with fire. The judge will not take kindly to the one fingered salute.

You absolutely can be held in contempt if you specifically instructed your employees or agents or people patrolling your residence to refuse service.

To put it bluntly, either the process server or PA is lying. One has filed a sworn affidavit with the court.

Whether she has already been paid off is, at this stage, conjecture, not fact.