Anyone else think Thomas Markle is not coming across well?

[LadyLightning]

He just sounds like a nightmare dad, despite doing his best to present himself as the victim here. The comment about Harry being his family whether he liked it or not? And 'what was happening was not making me happy@. He sounds like a self centred man, I think she may be much better off with no contact.

What is absolutely ironic is that they gave him no support at all when being constantly hounding by the press before the wedding.

His experience of the press etc resonates much more on a par with Diana in terms of unprepared and unsupported then M’s does, to me anyway.

Home video footage shows that he was a big part of her teenage years

Exactly. So fucking insulting for Harry to have said "we're the family she never had". She very clearly has a loving mum and Dad.

I'm not very sorry for him. What about MM's mum - she faces the same pressures, but she's dignified and doesn't take cash to blurt about her DD all over the place. And MM is close to her - it's not as if MM has just selfishly dumped her parents for the sake of it. More likely she's had a bad relationship with him long-term because he behaves like this.

I may be biased having a crap dad myself - but I'm team MM on this one.

He is an abusive parent.

You can't say that. How on earth was he "abusive" ffs?

I wonder if Meghan supports Doria now? Doria's job as a mental health counsellor couldn't have continued after the engagement, nor did it - can you imagine clients asking about your new SonIL then selling the story?

Supports financially I mean.

Her mums ten years younger and hasn't just suffered a heart attack and been hospitalised.

I watched it and it basically confirmed what I thought he would be like. He was paid for set up pap pictures, and that must have stung Meghan and now hes doing this. Him and his other bitter daughter are infuriating. Why can they not keep their mouths shut?! Thank goodness, Meghan has Doria because that other side is a complete toxic shit show shudders

Come on now people, I've no experience of the press whatsoever, but I'm certain that if I'd fallen out with my child I'd absolutely not go to the press, I'd not discuss my child with the tabloid press, I'd not publicly share letters they'd written. I'd not do that because that would be a really shitty thing to do. I know, just as a very ordinary person whose read the odd newspaper, that discussing estranged family members in the press is not going to end well. He's come across as a bit if a twat who is jealous of his daughter.
Meghan seems lovely, I really hope her and Harry are happy, they both seem to have had a difficult childhood.

Is anyone else weirdly attracted to him?

Meghan's friends leaked untrue details of the letter to People magazine. He then shared parts of the actual letter to disprove the lies her friends had said about him. Which most people would do if their name was being smeared internationally

The question is, were her friends acting under Meghan's instructions or independent of her when they told their mistruths to People?

It’s not about money. It’s about hurt, betrayal, and deceit. Otherwise, his press interviews would all have been happy memory stories and photos of her when she was little. Instead all we hear from him is desperate attempts to tell the truth. Her behaviour in a few videos I’ve seen is down right rude, inconsiderate, embarrassing and controlling (where she on two occasions stood in front of H whilst he was talking to someone, interrupted and H moved aside). She didn’t come across well in these situations and didn’t seem to like being cast aside, forgetting who she was married to and royal protocol. I think her behaviour then caused the press to start digging for info on her personality.... the exes (how she dumped one of them by text), old friends, how she treated aides who quit, how she treated staff at Wimbledon when she apparently ordered them to clear the entire royal box.... she kind of dug herself a hole imo.

There seemed to be a lot of gaps in the saga for me.

As PP said, why did Meghan go to live with him from 11 - 16yrs old?

The videos shown looked like they got on well and had a good relationship, though, in reality, I don't suppose you would get the camera out to film if you were having a major bust up.!

The fact that Harry never met him before the wedding was just very odd and would seem to infer that the close relationship between Dad and daughter was gone before that point.

I can see that she and Harry wouldn't necessarily have wanted to visit Dad at his home but surely, they could have arranged to meet up at some exclusive pad/hotel somewhere just to say hello in person?

I don't remember seeing photos of Doria splashed all over the press going about her business but Mr M did seem to be a bit of a target at the time and should have been given help to manage that intrusion.
OK for Harry to say, just don't go out - how was Dad supposed to get his shopping in?!

I was feeling some sympathy for him up to the last 10 mins or so.
His confirmation that he will continue to do interviews and make money from it just showed that he isn't a loving Dad now - even if he had been previously.

@Gloriaa : Get yourself to specsavers and get your medication reviewed too!🤔

Mixed feelings here too. I get the part where she wants out from a toxic family inc the Royals and their stiff upper lip.

But this moved seemed drastic. They should have waited for the dust to settle. They are still in thier honeymoon period. The press would have got bored and moved on.

The father is a covert narcissist playing the poor me card it's bullshit would you sell your child out

Not matter what my child has done I'm not hawking it to the papers noticed how mm mother has kept a dignified silence despite her own hounding

Don't fall for this BS

When he said ‘they owe me’ I didn’t think he meant money. The ‘owe’ part will be interpreted differently according to people’s prior.

I also feel sorry for him. He clearly hasn't been the best father ever but he sounds to have been treated horribly, not meeting Harry, not being checked on when ill, not seeing Archie, etc
She does seem to have a very selective memory regarding things like her young activism and who paid for her school which must be very hurtful
As he is elderly, unwell and (possibly) broke I feel more sorry for him than for Meghan who does seem to be being somewhat manipulative

I really don’t know how anyone can feel sorry for this man. He is the epitome of a narcissist.
Don’t forget this man sold fake pap pictures and his daughter and Harry still forgave him.
Also, it is documented that Harry and Meghan offered him help and assistance in dealing with the press and he refused it.
He has continued to sell stories about his daughter despite being advised to keep quiet.
He is not close to any of his grandchildren and in latter years hasn’t really seen any of his close family
He has allowed himself to be used by some parts of the British press who will drop him like a hot potato soon.
As another poster said, if Meghan had posted on MN about her father she would have been directed to the Stately Homes thread. However, because it’s MM and posters dislike her( for often spurious reasons) they choose to believe that she has ditched her father, despite evidence to the contrary.
I actually feel more sorry for her after watching that interview

He's clearly not perfect, but in the videos shown from her teenage years they looked close and happy, and Meghan seemed to be quite the "Daddy's girl". Also, she praised him in a some speeches , so he must have been doing something right as a father, during her teenage years.

I agree with the PP who said that Meghan seems very good at manipulating the men in her life. That sweet smile of hers has taken her a long way.

"MyUme @LadyLightning
what does she do that you find selfish?*

You're having a laugh right

Nope, curious too.
Care to answer, we're wanting to know or is it just the generic "OMG she's selfish but I don't actually know her bollocks?

Why do people purport to know her?
Exactly

The father is a covert narcissist playing the poor me card

Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree 🤷‍♀️

@MangoFeverDream. Spot on, but she asked for this attention and her father didn’t.

I don’t think Harry would have married Meghan if he had met her father before becoming engaged. She’d not have gambled on that chance.

And I’d never have put my own crazy family on the world stage by getting involved with someone so high profile.

That, in a nutshell is what makes me think she’s an extremely selfish woman. Their marriage cannot have brought anyone on earth other than her anything but sadness.

Wow Hanna - what's your beef with her that makes you say that?