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to think that William giving Kate Diana's ring is just plain odd.

97 replies

wannaBe · 17/11/2010 18:04

When you consider what that ring represents ... an unhappy marriage to a man who never loved her but instead loved someone else and a resulting divorce.

Am not even sure that the fact she is dead cancels that out tbh.

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LilyBolero · 18/11/2010 18:05

The way I see it is that Diana is very much seen as belonging to the nation. But she was William's MUM, he didn't have her there for GCSE results, A level results, going to uni, meeting Kate, all his army training etc etc. And so who are we to criticise or question,if he wants his fiancee to wear his mum's engagement ring.

RunawayChristmasTree · 18/11/2010 18:46

Can I just point out that it is a ring, just a ring, a thing, an object, it carries with it no luck good or bad, but to that young man it is special because it belonged to the mother he loved and who loved him and without whom he would most likely not be the well grounded young man he is today.
It is part of his memory of his mother and if people want to look for ulterior motives or say it is jinxed then shame on you.

I have my Grandmothers wedding ring, she had a rotten marriage, it has seen the inside of a porn shop more times then can be counted and she and her husband split up before I was born and he dies not long after I was born, but the ring is a memory of my gran, nothing more nothing less

DrNortherner · 18/11/2010 18:48

Sorry. I need to grow up, but I think you mean pawn shop.

DrNortherner · 18/11/2010 18:50

I wouldn't want to wear it. If I were William I would have had it re set into a pendant or a bracelet or something. And bought her a new ring, of her own.

DrNortherner · 18/11/2010 18:52

And, if they divorce, will KM have to give it back?! Diana obviously did.........

mathanxiety · 18/11/2010 19:44

The thing about that particular ring is that Diana was persona non grata with the Family for a good while, so I see it either as the posthumous rehabilitation of Diana or a way for William to thumb his nose at them and assert his ownership of his own mind, if they still spit when her name is mentioned.

Did Diana give it back or bequeath it? It wasn't a Family piece after all.

DrNortherner · 18/11/2010 19:47

Good point yes, she could have bequeathed it to her son. Then, I guess William owned it and would not have to ask permission to give it to Kate.

RunawayChristmasTree · 18/11/2010 20:17

OOOPS yes pawn shop! Blush

RunawayChristmasTree · 18/11/2010 20:31
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NorhamGardens · 18/11/2010 22:55

Mathanxiety you might have a good point:

The thing about that particular ring is that Diana was persona non grata with the Family for a good while, so I see it either as the posthumous rehabilitation of Diana or a way for William to thumb his nose at them and assert his ownership of his own mind, if they still spit when her name is mentioned.

Did Diana give it back or bequeath it? It wasn't a Family piece after all.

I got the feeling that there William wasn't telling us the whole truth about why he was using the ring. This might also explain why Kate didn't veto the suggestion.

onceamai · 19/11/2010 09:03

Think Mathanxiety and Norham Gardens have hit the nail on the head. It was William's mum's ring - William loved his mum and is very quietly sticking up for her in a very loyal way and if I were Kate I'd be glad I was marrying such a good man.

diddl · 19/11/2010 15:35

Yes he did love his Mum, and that´s why I find it odd.

Why does his fiancee have to have a reminder of it everyday?

If Kate had known & loved her it might be different.

Diana´s ring, dressed in blue for the engagement announcement, already three in the relationship?

Creepy!

rubyrubyruby · 19/11/2010 15:37

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diddl · 19/11/2010 15:38

Have it set in a pendant, give it to a daughter, keep as a momento?

rubyrubyruby · 19/11/2010 15:42

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jugglingjo · 19/11/2010 19:09

Always hate the word "product" !

There seem to be a lot of bad expressions around marriage and children.

From the dark ages !

eg. "wedlock"
OR "illegitimate"

All children are legitimate in my book !
Even Prince Harry ! Only joking !

rubyrubyruby · 19/11/2010 20:39

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mathanxiety · 19/11/2010 20:42

He did love his mum, and she was very much treated as an outsider and an oddity by the Family, then cut off horribly upon divorce. 'The Firm' constitutes a third party in any royal marriage anyhow, and in choosing The Ultimate Black Sheep's ring, William made a statement, imo. I think William is showing his loyalty to Diana here, as well as addressing his intent to stick by Kate within the Family and not let them treat her as they treated Diana.

onadietcokebreak · 19/11/2010 20:48

well it gives my redundant engagement ring hope!

Skifit · 27/04/2011 19:06

Its not odd, its a lovely idea. Its traditional as well. . . . . You give your fiancee to be the engagement ring that belonged to your mother or grandmother etc.

CrosswordAddict · 27/04/2011 19:30

It is ill-fated. I always worry when I see a nice piece of jewellery in a seconhand jeweller's window and am tempted to buy it. I think /What did the last owner die of? Yes, I know, it's daft but there you go .. Wink
Another point is it seems a bit cheapskate to use a secondhand ring.
Kate should have insisted on a fresh start with a new ring for this marriage. If William wished to give her his mother's ring as a keepsake, then that is a very nice gesture. But he could easily have had a few family jewels made up into a fresh design that would suit Kate.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 27/04/2011 19:37

I have my late mothers engagement and wedding ring on a chain round my neck, her and my dad divorced years before she died, but it represents to 2 most important people in my life.

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