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Am I being gaslit?

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Kw1234hhggf · 03/11/2024 19:09

Is two 85g of wet food (one AM one PM) per day and unlimited access to good quality dry food (plus evening treats such as ham, tuna, dreamies and left over food) enough for a medium sized active outdoor cat to live on? Because he’s telling me it isn’t. He acts like he’s being slowly murdered.

His brother of a similar size but less active thinks it’s fine.

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Kw1234hhggf · 03/11/2024 20:42

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 03/11/2024 20:21

I’d feed him more. Being hungry is painful.

The Bengal had 4.5 pouches a day. 5 if dh put him to bed.

I don’t know if he’s being hungry or greedy though. His brother is less food oriented and happy with this regime. He can eat dry food 24/7, it’s just not his preference. We are at work all day so can’t set a standard during weekends that we can’t maintain weekdays or when we are on holiday and they have family popping in. I might just double up pouches but they tend to get left and smelly!

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BirthdayRainbow · 03/11/2024 20:42

Shezlong · 03/11/2024 19:30

How big/heavy is he? My 2 year old rescue is CONSTANTLY after food but he's a large cat (6kg). he probably would have one more run/sachet of wet food a day than yours plus dry as well. He's very rangy and lean so I don't have a problem with giving him more, I just figure he's like a teenage boy,
I also have a teeny tiny cat (2.5kg) and she nibbles at food in comparison.

That's why one is over weight and one is small..

ParrotPirouette · 03/11/2024 20:42

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 03/11/2024 20:02

I do find that young cats need to eat a lot. I'd add in an extra sachet and keep the dry available too.

Is that you Binx?

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 03/11/2024 20:47

I had a cat when I was growing up in the countryside that had been a farm cat. This meant he had lived wild with his mum as a kitten.
If he didn't like the cat food he would stare at you sort of sneer and then pop out into the fields and return with a baby rabbit, or on one occasion a pheasant. Self feeding cat you see. He pretended to be starving as well at times.

Dirtydancing1 · 03/11/2024 20:48

My eldest cat is like this, he pretends he hasn't been fed to the other person that didn't feed him.
He shouts so loudly I'm sure in cat language his saying FEED ME.
He likes trying his luck incase he gets a nice treat, today was chicken from the roast.
He is now teaching the kitten to shout every time you go in the kitchen

Kw1234hhggf · 03/11/2024 20:50

stargazerlil · 03/11/2024 20:40

I used to feed my neighbours cat as he always came over to tell me he was very hungry, I also let him come in and sit on the sofa when it rained, that is until “Chilli gate” the day when I was upstairs and he climbed onto the kitchen counter and took the lid off the frozen chilli I was defrosting for my dinner and ate it. I found out later that he was also two timing me with some other neighbour up the road, we don’t talk anymore and I got a dog, that was then end of it, but we spent a lovely lockdown together in the garden, he was very loving at first. Oh he also spayed in the hallway when I wouldn’t let him on the bed and bit my ankle once.

Before we got the boys we lived elsewhere and had a girl cat. On the very day she died my neighbour’s Bengal cat arrived in the cat flap, sprayed up the walls, and pestered us for food. We locked the cat flap, he found his way in through an upstairs window that we couldn’t close for ventilation purposes every day till we moved. I wasn’t mad, I just pretended to be.

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Kw1234hhggf · 03/11/2024 20:51

ParrotPirouette · 03/11/2024 20:42

Is that you Binx?

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wetpebbles · 03/11/2024 20:54

i have a 5kg cat and he has 4 sachets a day and dry food which is the whiskas guidlines

houseselling101 · 03/11/2024 20:57

@ParrotPirouette

Pretty much 80% of the cat food pouches in the supermarkets are 100g? It's only the "fancy" rich ones which are the smaller ones - Felix as good as it looks ocean feasts is what I get - usually get delivered weekly from Amazon (3 cats and get a box of 40)

101Kittens · 03/11/2024 21:01

Add a tablespoon of water to each pouch of food, mix it in well. That will give him extra hydration if he doesn't drink. He could be still growing at 1.5 years so an extra pouch is a good idea.

Feed him using a slow feeder, so he has to get his food out of the grids/swirls as it will help him eat less quickly and if you put treats in it too it will occupy him longer to get them.

Interactive toys with treats as rewards might also help temp down his demand for food.

Kw1234hhggf · 03/11/2024 21:25

101Kittens · 03/11/2024 21:01

Add a tablespoon of water to each pouch of food, mix it in well. That will give him extra hydration if he doesn't drink. He could be still growing at 1.5 years so an extra pouch is a good idea.

Feed him using a slow feeder, so he has to get his food out of the grids/swirls as it will help him eat less quickly and if you put treats in it too it will occupy him longer to get them.

Interactive toys with treats as rewards might also help temp down his demand for food.

thank you! That’s really good advice re the water, he literally gobbles his food up like a warthog. I’ll give him an extra pouch at teatime to ensure it’s manageable when we need a cat sitter.

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Kw1234hhggf · 03/11/2024 21:32

He’s absolutely thrilled to announce that, due to you all, he’s going to get an extra pouch and also water mixed in his food. This is his thrilled face.

Am I being gaslit?
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Stormyweatheroutthere · 03/11/2024 21:34

FYI dcat milk is actually goat's milk.. Much cheaper in supermarkets in the milk section... Our ddogs thrive on it. Dcat aren't that bothered... Stuck up little shits......Dcat1 likes his veggies instead.. Fights the dc for a bit of broccoli!! Dcat 2 likes drinking cold tea...

Kw1234hhggf · 03/11/2024 21:38

Stormyweatheroutthere · 03/11/2024 21:34

FYI dcat milk is actually goat's milk.. Much cheaper in supermarkets in the milk section... Our ddogs thrive on it. Dcat aren't that bothered... Stuck up little shits......Dcat1 likes his veggies instead.. Fights the dc for a bit of broccoli!! Dcat 2 likes drinking cold tea...

Thank you! I do worry binx doesn’t ever seem to drink.

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Diversion · 03/11/2024 21:41

Our boy is an indoor cat and a big lad, he is 13 1/2 and weighs around 6kg. His daily food intake varies from 3 pouches, dry biscuits and a few treats plus whatever else he manages to scrounge to occasionally 6 pouches plus the additions. We do ignore the "Mum I can see the bottom of my dish" even though there is still food in there moans. Vet is happy with his weight and agrees that he is a big cat. He went on holiday to a lovely cattery but was not impressed at regular meal times and soon went back to his old ways once home.

Allergictoironing · 04/11/2024 07:17

Toddlerteaplease · 03/11/2024 20:37

The only 100g pouches I've found are PAH flakes. Except my 2.5kg tiny tyrant wont touch them. Despite me telling her she gets more food.

Webbox do a grain free 100g pouch, which mine are on for breakfast. The "gravy" looks a bit odd, like they've added some cornflour, but both of mine love it.

coffeesaveslives · 04/11/2024 07:24

My three only get one pouch of wet food a day (split over two meals), plus two meals of dry. They get some chicken at tea time too though, and dreamies when they're in for the night.

I won't let them read this thread Grin

TheGriffle · 04/11/2024 07:26

God mine must be reporting us to cat social services as we speak! Ours get 50g each of wet food morning and night with biscuits available all day. They sometimes try it on for an extra breakfast from whoever comes down second but they never pester for food. Offered one of them chicken from our Sunday roast yesterday and he wouldn’t even look at it. Maybe mine are broken. We do have to turn the bathroom tap on for them to have a drink and have various glasses of water around the house for them to choose from though.

EmpressaurusDelleGatte · 04/11/2024 08:16

Kitty likes the idea of wet food but never goes beyond a couple of licks. She’s on Iams sensitive digestion biscuits which is mainly chicken & rice, & seems perfectly happy with 65g of that a day as long as she gets a couple of Dreamies to go with it.

Huge contrast to some of mine who simply hoovered up everything in sight & asked for more!

Aikko · 04/11/2024 10:37

My ~5kg male tuxedo eats pretty much 4 (yes, FOUR!) tins of Untamed wet food every single day (2 at 6am, and 2 at 6pm as I work during the day), and still yells at me for more.
The poor cat has no teeth and isn't interested in eating the dry food I put down for my other (female) cat.

He never see him drinking water, so perhaps I should try giving him some cat milk and see if that satiates him a bit more... .

He could just be thirsty!

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