Kitten urinating everywhere

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Kitten is about 7 months old now, was neutered at 14 weeks.
He does use the tray, especially for a poo, but it urinating in other places, in baskets, my washing basket, a curver basket I have with some jumpers in, but also against the bathroom sink, on a camping chair.
No Uti as he went in for a check a few days ago.
Eats and drinks very well.
we have an older cat but they get on well and like play fighting together.
Tray hasn’t moved and older cat doesn’t use it.
should I put another litter tray in the bathroom near where he likes to go?
any advice for getting the urine out of clothes? Someone recommended an enzyme spray from Amazon which I’ve got but will a few squirts of that and a hot wash do the trick? Worried I might become nose blind!

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You need to find out what's causing the behaviour, otherwise you're going to be fighting a losing battle against pee.

Ideally you need three trays for two cats, in separate, private locations.

Do they go outside?

Put multiple trays out for now - as annoying as it is, it’s better than the alternative. You can reduce them again when the problem resolves. You might find one place is favoured more than the others.

If the kitten is allowed out, try sprinkling litter in a few places outside where they might be likely to urinate - they should then get the idea that they’re meant to go outside.

But if they’ve been fine til now it’s more likely to be behavioural/ stress. Have there been any changes in the household or are there neighbourhood cats bothering it?

Try him on Cystease, it helps their bladder lining and soft ultraclumping litter.

Older cat doesn’t use the tray at all and goes outside.
Kitten has been in the garden but only under our supervision as the wall is climbable.

he has always peed outside the tray, he does pee in there sometimes too but not always, however the home he came from had other cats as well as dogs so thought maybe he’s picked up others behaviour, so we guided him to the tray and gave him some time, then had him neutered and I thought once he had recovered from that things may settle down.

Will give the cystease a try and change the litter (using Catsan at the moment)

thank you for your advice, our older cat is the first we ever had and she was quite textbook, this kitten is a bit of a clumsy one in lots of ways so think he’s quite immature in comparison to how older cat was at his age.
Gives the best cuddles though 😍

Ah, if it's something he's always done it could just be that he was never toilet trained properly by his mum.

Show him YouTube videos of cats using a tray, cars are quick learners.

Yes I suspected he may not have been but he’s had lots of time to settle.
Any advice on how to train please? I never see him actually going to toilet and we never had to train older cat.
i will do as pp mentioned and put some more litter trays down

😂
any particular videos you recommend?
dc used the poo song when they were little, do you think kitten will go on the toilet if I show him that!? 😅

The best way to train is "catch them in the act" and move them to the litter tray mid wee, but that's much harder to do with an older cat as they don't go as often as kittens.

You could also try getting some of his wee and putting the scent in the tray to try and teach him where to go.

We are using Sanicat extra clumping. You need to clean it every day, as cat will start peeing everywhere else if litter tray is too full/smelly.

Ooo what a naughty (but gorgeous!) boy.

In my experience, they all tend to do this a bit. The key thing is, you must eliminate all trace of the smell of urine from whatever they have urinated on (and remember their noses are way more sensitive than yours) otherwise they will smell urine and go there again. There are cleaning sprays specifically for cat urine you can buy which worked for me. Many years ago, it was called GET OFF. I dont know if it still is.

Other tips to try: even though your older cat does not use the litter tray, is the tray kept somewhere where your older cat cannot get to? It might be the kitten feels intimidated to use it under the older cat's nose.

Is the litter tray well away from where you feed the cats? It needs to be. Preferably in another room.

I sometimes blocked the kitten from the room they have soiled in, just because I couldn't be sure I had eliminated the smell.

If the kitten isn't properly trained by its mother, can you try putting him in the tray at the time you think he might need to use it, eg after a meal or drink. I sometimes scratch around in the litter too, just to give them the idea of doing the same.

These are great tips, thank you so much, will be keeping my watchful eye on him!!

He is a gorgeous boy.

One thing I've done when I got my younger two and one soiled, was to put the "deposit" in the tray, so he associated the tray with his individual smell.

Next time you have to clean, if you say use kitchen roll to soak any urine up, put some kitchen roll in the tray so again his smell is in the tray.

Obviously once he's done any business in there, hopefully he remember.

Try a different litter? Mine prefer something softer - we use pet celect which is paper based. I get the odd pee in the laundry basket too and find a normal wash with bio powder removes any smell.

He's lovely!

Catsan is hard, so it could be he doesn't like the texture on his paws. His paw pads are likely soft as he's only young.

Try a softer litter, for example Cats Best Cat's Best Original - 40l | Biodegradable Cat Litter at bitiba

It tracks a fair bit, but it's soft and has far better odour control than Catsan, which IMHO is one of the worst cat litters out there. Also, one tray, even though your other cat goes outside, is not enough. With two cats, you need three litter trays.

There could also be a 'guarding' issue where the older cat is preventing the little one from going in the tray. Sometimes cats have issues with each other that we are oblivious to, so having multiple trays will go some way to addressing this (if it's a hidden issue).

Yes try different litters and try to get some of his wee into the tray so he understands that's where he's supposed to go.

When you clean the tray out, if there is any wee in there, leave a little bit behind so it still smells like the pee place to him. You don't need to do this forever but certainly while he's getting used to it.

We had this for a while with our kitten. Initially she was text book and then she started peeing outside the litter trays but it was always in laundry hampers, washing baskets etc - basically anything box shaped with a soft lining. I put out extra litter trays, locked all baskets in the utility room which she couldn't access and used a UV light and cat enzyme spray (Amazon) that was recommended here. It took a while but she hadn't regressed in months. She has also recently started going out and I think this has helped.

Your kitty is 😍. Ours is a gorgeous little tuxedo as well and so full of personality.

One of our kittens was terrible for protest weeing. He was complaining he wasn’t allowed outside (hadn’t been neutered at the time. We got a longline lead, a harness and a stake and he was happy as Larry.
It was long enough so he could get in the house. He just loved being outside (still does).
The protest wees didn’t stop completely but they were much more manageable.
Obviously still had to supervise (especially as we had two and they needed their leads untangling, but didn’t need a direct line of vision at all times, and could have the back door open for the dogs.

Sorry, to add, post neuter and microchip, when he could use the cat flap and roam, he’s had no accidents since. He’s stopped using the litter tray and has chosen a corner of the garden to do his business in.
Only issue is he seems to be a hunter 🤦‍♀️

You got a tuxedo. It's his house now, I'm sorry 😆

Adorable ❤️

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Now you’ve said he’s never really quite got the hang of it, I think it is about training. Agree with what others have said - more trays, get his wee scent in them, and pick him up any time he looks likely to need to go and put him in the tray, take his paw and help him scratch in the litter.
But best of all, do that outside as well. I think outside they would normally go in lots of places to get their scent markers on their territory - he might be trying to mark inside and if he can go outside he’ll probably grow out of it.
I did once have an adorable little girl tabby who kept pooing just outside the little tray, drove me nuts. I put litter outside in the border, and took soil from the border and put it in the tray. She sniffed both, then decided to go outside from then on and that was it. It was almost as if she could say, oh, why didn’t you say before?