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Can I get a cat / cats?

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WhatNext24 · 01/04/2024 17:50

I had a cat growing up and just love them. I have wanted one for years but keep thinking my situation is not quite ideal. Am I being to harsh on myself or would it be unfair on a cat to have one? My biggest consideration is whether the cat would ever get lonely, so I would also consider getting a pair if that would help.

Here is what I am weighing up:

Positives:

  • I live alone in a good size, ground floor flat (3 beds) with large communal gardens well away from the main road. I have no other pets and any cats could have free roam of my flat and the gardens
  • I currently work from home and am around a lot to give plenty of attention
  • I have family nearby who would be willing to pop in if I went away for a day or two; alternatively, there are catteries nearby
  • I am well aware of all the possible issues (health, etc.). I can afford to insure and take good care of a cat and understand the responsibility entailed
  • It would get a lot of love and attention when I am home. I would get a rescue cat and have the patience to nurture a shy or nervous one

Negatives:

  • I would like to get back to working from an office, ideally in the next few months / the autumn; if I did that I would not be home all day with the cat (this is the big concern that I have)
  • My upstairs neighbours have a massive dog, and there are a few smaller dogs in the building where I live. They have to be kept on leads but I don't know how big a deal this is
  • I am single and my circumstances could change. I don't have any overt plans to move etc. but it's always possible I guess. I don't see this as a big issue but throwing it out there anyway.

What do others think - could I look after a cat well enough, or two cats if that would be better?

Thanks for any advice!

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Nicelynicelyjohnson · 02/04/2024 12:14

caringcarer · 02/04/2024 11:15

Yes cat flaps can go into any doors. A handyman will fit it for you. Get 2 bonded cats and they will be good company for each other. Cats are mostly independent so don't mind being alone like dogs do. Your set up sounds ideal. If you get 2 rescue cats, there are so many cats needing good homes and many are young too. Last year my son moved into his own home after years of saving deposit. He go 2 rescue cats only about 9-10 months old who had been born on the street and caught after their mother was run over when they were 3-4 months. They spent 6 months in rescue centre waiting for a home. They are so affectionate. They have settled in so well.

Fairly sure you can't put a cat flap in a fire door, technically yes, but legally no.

I would have thought window best bet in a listed building but you would still need permission.

yellowsun · 02/04/2024 12:20

Growing up, we didn’t ever had a cat flap and managed just fine. Our cats went out when we were in and we had a litter tray inside. We don’t have a proper cat flap situation now- there is one into a ‘lean to’ at the back of our house where our cat can shelter if we aren’t in. You could get a cat shelter and keep in outside your patio doors if you had to start being out all day.

colourfulcrochet · 02/04/2024 12:54

So excited for you, OP! Cats are the best.

We don't have a cat flap, and it works fine for now. It does mean we are beholden to the whims and comings and goings of our overlords, but we always know where they are, too.

Might I suggest a mother-kitten pair if that's a possibility? We adopted a duo years ago, the kitten was about 6/8 weeks old and still nursing occasionally. Having a kitten was amazing, but watching her being raised by her mum was interesting! We still laugh about how the mum used to waggle her tail at her kitten for her to pounce on. And how mum would tell her off for getting too rowdy. It was so cute.

WhatNext24 · 02/04/2024 16:24

Scampuss · 02/04/2024 10:54

If the building is listed, everything is listed! So you will need LBC to add a flap.

The outer building is listed but we can alter anything inside our own properties except the windows, which are original. The door I would put a cat flap in is my own apartment door that is not original and I can do what I want to (only it has to meet fire regulations). That door leads into an entryway. There is a separate original door from the entryway into the garden but that is always open and cannot be closed.

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WhatNext24 · 02/04/2024 16:28

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 02/04/2024 12:14

Fairly sure you can't put a cat flap in a fire door, technically yes, but legally no.

I would have thought window best bet in a listed building but you would still need permission.

https://hspfireprotection.co.uk/fire-door-components/2325-envirograf-fire-proof-cat-flap-protector.html

This is what I have seen in terms of flap for a fire door. I would check with a fire safety company first.

Envirograf Fire Proof Cat /Dog Flap Protector for Fire Rated Doors

Envirograf Fire Proof Cat /Dog Flap Protector for Fire Rated Doors

An easy to fit metal intumescent animal flap protector to maintain the fire integrity of fire-rated doors in apartments and houses.

https://hspfireprotection.co.uk/fire-door-components/2325-envirograf-fire-proof-cat-flap-protector.html

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WhatNext24 · 02/04/2024 16:29

yellowsun · 02/04/2024 12:20

Growing up, we didn’t ever had a cat flap and managed just fine. Our cats went out when we were in and we had a litter tray inside. We don’t have a proper cat flap situation now- there is one into a ‘lean to’ at the back of our house where our cat can shelter if we aren’t in. You could get a cat shelter and keep in outside your patio doors if you had to start being out all day.

This is interesting. There is a little patio area just outside that isn't technically mine but in practice is. I could potentially put a little shelter there although it wouldn't keep a cat safe from the dogs!

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Nicelynicelyjohnson · 02/04/2024 16:53

WhatNext24 · 02/04/2024 16:28

https://hspfireprotection.co.uk/fire-door-components/2325-envirograf-fire-proof-cat-flap-protector.html

This is what I have seen in terms of flap for a fire door. I would check with a fire safety company first.

Oh wow, that's fabulous!
They really do think of everything these days.

Scampuss · 02/04/2024 16:57

WhatNext24 · 02/04/2024 16:24

The outer building is listed but we can alter anything inside our own properties except the windows, which are original. The door I would put a cat flap in is my own apartment door that is not original and I can do what I want to (only it has to meet fire regulations). That door leads into an entryway. There is a separate original door from the entryway into the garden but that is always open and cannot be closed.

Sorry, but you've been misinformed, a listing covers everything within curtilage.

WhatNext24 · 02/04/2024 17:30

Scampuss · 02/04/2024 16:57

Sorry, but you've been misinformed, a listing covers everything within curtilage.

Not sure that applies to the internal doors here. The building was converted in the 90s. The listing on Historic England says that "to be included within the curtilage of the building, the object or structure must have formed part of the land since before 1st July 1948". The lease also states that the only restriction on alternations within the apartments is regarding the original windows.

Anyway, this is a tangent because I would check before doing anything. The purpose of posting was to understand what a cat/cats would need to be happy.

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WhatNext24 · 02/04/2024 17:30

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 02/04/2024 16:53

Oh wow, that's fabulous!
They really do think of everything these days.

Ha! Yes. I have also discovered automatic litter trays which did not exist the last time I had a cat!

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Canthave2manycats · 02/04/2024 20:46

Oh definitely get two! They're great fun!

I'd recommend the smaller local rescues - they tend to be more knowledgeable about the cats and mix them more. I've got three. First one came from CP, and was in a pen on her own. She'd been straying in a city centre. During the adoption process I'd fallen in love with a kitty in a local rescue, and got her shortly afterwards. She'd been neglected and outdoors 24/7. They don't get on even 2 years later!

Fell in love just after last Christmas with a boy on the same rescue's page, whose owner had died. He had also been used to outdoor access.

All three are happily indoors only with us. They've never looked to go out. Think they're just so grateful to be warm, safe and dry! Bonus is the new boy loves our second girl, and they have such fun!

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