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17yr old yowling and eating a lot

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LookMaggie · 19/11/2023 13:53

Hello all,

I had cats growing up so am aware the early morning yowling is a thing in elderly cats.

But this is the first cat I've had of my own (I live alone) and I feel like I have a newborn or an extremely demanding tamagotchi which needs constant feeding to keep it quiet! I've actually had to take to shutting her out of the bedroom recently which makes me feel sad. I work funny hours hence would ideally be in bed midnight-9am.

In terms of her behaviour, she seems well enough in herself although throwing up a bit this last few days. She very occasionally still goes outside but only for a few minutes. She has catnip toys and a scratching post, all of which she uses daily. She has Katkin litter which is supposed to go a particular colour if any kidney issues and all seems clear. But she's eating about twice as much food as Katkin recommends for her age/weight/activity level. (Albeit she's a healthy weight). She has always been pretty "food-oriented" according to the vet. (I want to avoid any more vet trips than are absolutely necessary as she always wets/poos herself in great distress)

This is her pattern:

Midnight: I give her a Katkin tray just before I go to bed to try and keep her quiet as long as possible. If I don't, she will be jumping all over my head as I'm trying to get to sleep. If she is nice and quiet on my bed after her food, when I turn out the light, I will leave her there. If she is elsewhere I will close the bedroom door to keep her out.

3am: if I've left her on my bed, this is the point at which she starts harassing me so I get her up and chuck her outside the bedroom door.

5pm: Automatic feeder gives her a Katkin tray

7am: Automatic feeder gives her a little Hills Prescription dental dry food

8-9am: She starts scratching at the bedroom door and yowling to get in. BUT here's the thing, even when I let her in, the yowling continues until I physically get out of bed. She jump on and off the bed and walk round it over and over again, agitated yowling and will pull my hair and run her claws along my eyes and lips.

Then I get up, give her another Katkin tray just for peace and she will sleep for most of the day. She might get more food about 5pm. (Whatever I'm eating or a Lik-e-Lix pouch or yet another bloody Katkin tray)

When I type it all out, I suspect this is indeed just the nature of having cats and that's she's probably just bored/lonely in the morning!

But any suggestions welcome. Thanks.

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Catmummyof2 · 19/11/2023 14:06

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LookMaggie · 19/11/2023 14:07

Hmm...I've read a similar thread and wonder if it's hypothyroidism. Maybe a vet trip is inevitable.

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LookMaggie · 19/11/2023 14:07

Thanks @Catmummyof2 she's always eaten a lot which is maybe why I haven't bothered about it much until now.

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Catmummyof2 · 19/11/2023 14:29

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LookMaggie · 21/11/2023 10:08

Hmm. Well last night I noticed big blue splodges in the KatKin litter which indicates acidic urine. It was very very slightly orange just before that. I only switched to this litter about 3 weeks ago.

So she's booked into the vets tomorrow night and yes, I will pick up the Gabapentin today to give her.

I was crying last night because I know what's coming, sooner or later.

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Abergale · 21/11/2023 13:30

Sounds like hyperthyroidism

Wolfiefan · 21/11/2023 13:31

We had a cat with a thyroid issue. Daily meds but she was fine once she was on them.

AnnaMagnani · 21/11/2023 13:35

Hyperthyroidism

Like you, my cat had always eaten a lot and always been loud. I think we missed the diagnosis for years as she was so different once on treatment.

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LookMaggie · 22/11/2023 19:40

Hello everyone,

The cat was at the vet today and got blood and urine samples taken. As well as a needle aspiration of a lump I hadn't noticed (almost certainly just a cyst though).

One of her teeth isn't looking so good either, causing her some pain.

And she has definitely lost a lot of weight since she was last at the vet. I'd noticed a bit but hasn't realised it was as much as it was - vet seemed concerned about it.

But vet does think there are good treatment options for thyroid/kidney issues if that's what she has.

So just got to wait for the results.

Thanks for listening!

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Abergale · 22/11/2023 20:58

weightloss adds to hyperthyroidism theory!
Fingers crossed for you op

LookMaggie · 23/11/2023 17:39

Hello all,

Tentative good news - it appears just to be a "sky high" overactive thyroid. Easily treated as you guys were saying with daily medication.

No sign of kidney disease at the moment.

There is no sign of cancer on the blood test.

We are still waiting for the result of the needle aspiration but vet not worried about that.

And we can have home visits going forward. (She will need another blood test in 4 weeks to adjust medication albeit we MIGHT be able to skip it as it distresses her if she's clearly doing better, putting on weight etc)

Cheers!

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Clarich007 · 23/11/2023 19:29

So glad you now know what is wrong with your little girl.…. I was actually going to post and suggest thyroid problems.
One of my old girls 19, had the same symptoms.She took one tablet a day and put on weight, stopped eating so much, and had another 2 happy years until we had her PTS at 21.

MegaBlox6 · 23/11/2023 21:28

I have an elderly cat with hyperthyroidism, his is quite tricky to keep under control but the medication is easy enough. If they give you the thyronorm liquid medication I recommend squirting it in a little bowl with a Lick-e-lix. Goes down a treat x

LookMaggie · 23/11/2023 21:56

@MegaBlox6 that is EXACTLY my plan! My girl LOVES Lik-e-Lix and I immediately realised the liquid (I should get it tomorrow) would mix in well with that!

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Catmummyof2 · 24/11/2023 08:12

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LookMaggie · 24/11/2023 18:10

And the first dose is down the hatch! It's only 0.5ml and I folded it into the Lik-e-Lix. No issue at all!

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Britinme · 27/11/2023 22:22

One of my cats is hyperthyroid and was behaving as you describe, and losing weight although she was eating well. Medication of any kind - gel or tablet - was an absolute no-no as this cat does not take kindly to any such interaction, and the thought of fighting her twice a day for the rest of her life was not a happy one. In the end she had radioactive iodine treatment, which was hugely expensive but has led to a complete change of behaviour and a much happier cat.

LookMaggie · 28/11/2023 18:30

Thanks all for sharing your stories too.

The results of the needle aspiration came back today - the lump is just a lipoma.

I've started weighing her myself at home. So that we can maybe adjust her dose of thyroid meds without having to take her to the surgery or take bloods again.

Does anyone know if it's possible to buy the thyroid med direct from the supplier as presumably that will be cheaper than have the vet prescribe it every month?

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LookMaggie · 04/12/2023 20:12

I weighed her myself and she seems to have lost a little more, despite being on the meds 10 days. So i've left a message with the vet to see if I should just bash ahead and increase her dose a bit sooner rather than later.

i've been buying her ever single one of her favourite foods and a couple of new toys albeit her interest in the latter was a bit underwhelming!

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LookMaggie · 15/12/2023 17:20

Cat has been vomiting for 24hrs and as of this morning, there was some blood in it and she was very agitated and distressed.

Emergency vet appointment today. She was given IV fluids and anti-sickness medicine. She was too distressed for a blood sample to check thyroid/kidneys. So I'm going to monitor her over the weekend. She HAS had a little to eat now and is calm again.

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LookMaggie · 18/12/2023 20:11

She seems ok now. We've increased the dose of the thyroid medicine. Hopefully she starts putting weight back on really soon. If not, I'm worried.

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AnnaMagnani · 18/12/2023 21:42

Hope your cat is better tomorrow.

We found it very obvious when our hyperthyroid cat was underdosed as the yelling started again, as did the ravenous eating.

I mean she always wanted to eat a lot but the thyroid eating was noticeable even for her appetite.

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