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Petition to make neutering a legal requirement

40 replies

thecatneuterer · 07/09/2023 21:34

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/643251

I know there's a petitions board, but I'm hoping this will be allowed to stay here.

Wouldn't this be amazing if by some miracle it became law! (I'm sure it will one day, but sadly probably not in the foreseeable future - still, we can but try).

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Plump82 · 07/09/2023 21:35

Signed!

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 08/09/2023 08:11

It's a great idea but it would be impossible to legislate sadly.

Whyohwhyohwhy123 · 08/09/2023 08:15

You would have to have some get out clause for farm cats as even though many people take up the charity discounted neutering schemes (I do and it’s still expensive) pregnant cats and un neutered toms are constantly turning up. Which makes it a never ending problem.
I do agree it’s an issue though

thecatneuterer · 08/09/2023 09:36

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 08/09/2023 08:11

It's a great idea but it would be impossible to legislate sadly.

Well Spain are doing it. It will be interesting to hear how they get on. And of course few laws are always followed - speed limits for example - but just making it law should change mindsets and help charities and other bodies deal with problem owners.

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Sugarcoatt · 08/09/2023 09:37

I was in favour of it until I went through menopause myself. Now I just think it’s cruel to put female animals into surgically induced menopause at a young age.

YesItsMeIDontCare · 08/09/2023 09:41

Sugarcoatt · 08/09/2023 09:37

I was in favour of it until I went through menopause myself. Now I just think it’s cruel to put female animals into surgically induced menopause at a young age.

You think it's better for them to have multiple litters a year until a probable early death due to the strain in the body?

Costacoffeeplease · 08/09/2023 09:59

Sugarcoatt · 08/09/2023 09:37

I was in favour of it until I went through menopause myself. Now I just think it’s cruel to put female animals into surgically induced menopause at a young age.

What a ridiculous comparison. So we should leave them to have countless litters of unwanted kittens?

thecatneuterer · 08/09/2023 10:04

Sugarcoatt · 08/09/2023 09:37

I was in favour of it until I went through menopause myself. Now I just think it’s cruel to put female animals into surgically induced menopause at a young age.

Firstly neutered cats are much healthier than unneutered cats. Secondly the alternative to neutering is such a huge overpopulation that cats will either end up being abandoned to die for lack of food and care, or euthanised. We are already getting to this point, with the number of abandoned cats vastly exceeding the rescue spaces and homes available. This cats that are not taken in end up giving birth on the street or in back gardens, and then witness their kittens being taken by foxes or dying from lack of food. If you think that's better than neutering then you are either deluded, callous or appallingly lacking in knowledge of the subject.

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Superlegs · 08/09/2023 10:16

Signed. Unless you are prepared to keep all the resulting kittens, you should neuter your pets.
I’ve got 6 kittens in my front room rescued from twat neighbour that has let their cats have multiple litters, they never bother rehoming any of the kittens they have refused all offers of help from animal charities, instead prefer to let the cats struggle with being constantly pestered by Tom cats and scrounging round for food for themselves and the kittens, it’s heartbreaking and tighter regulations are needed to stop this happening.

thecatneuterer · 08/09/2023 10:24

And @Sugarcoatt cats don't go through menopause. They remain fertile until they die (normally young due to the strain multiple births puts in their bodies). They don't suffer hot flushes or mood swings or anything like that. Apart from very rare surgery complications neutering brings nothing but health benefits.

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Killingmytime · 08/09/2023 10:35

Sugarcoatt · 08/09/2023 09:37

I was in favour of it until I went through menopause myself. Now I just think it’s cruel to put female animals into surgically induced menopause at a young age.

Omg how ridiculous.so instead you leave them to have litters of cats year after year, lead to early deaths? Unwanted litters? Cancers of the wombs etc?
cats being run over/lost due to roaming?
Cats being uncomfortable/in pain for several days every 3 weeks?

Killingmytime · 08/09/2023 10:37

Sugarcoatt · 08/09/2023 09:37

I was in favour of it until I went through menopause myself. Now I just think it’s cruel to put female animals into surgically induced menopause at a young age.

They’re also not humans, they don't go through the same things as issues as women.

Killingmytime · 08/09/2023 10:37

Superlegs · 08/09/2023 10:16

Signed. Unless you are prepared to keep all the resulting kittens, you should neuter your pets.
I’ve got 6 kittens in my front room rescued from twat neighbour that has let their cats have multiple litters, they never bother rehoming any of the kittens they have refused all offers of help from animal charities, instead prefer to let the cats struggle with being constantly pestered by Tom cats and scrounging round for food for themselves and the kittens, it’s heartbreaking and tighter regulations are needed to stop this happening.

Same, all mine have been people’s unwanted cats.

sawnotseen · 08/09/2023 10:39

Signed. My two kittens were done two weeks ago at 5mths 2.5 and 2.8 kg
There's no reason not to!

Soubriquet · 08/09/2023 10:41

I do hope this becomes a law…but I can’t see how it’s policed.

Next door have two cats that had a litter of kittens each about 6 weeks ago. I’m pretty sure both are pregnant again but they don’t care. They complain that they can’t find homes for the kittens….but they still don’t bother to neuter anything.

sashh · 08/09/2023 10:42

Sugarcoatt · 08/09/2023 09:37

I was in favour of it until I went through menopause myself. Now I just think it’s cruel to put female animals into surgically induced menopause at a young age.

I sailed through the menopause. 1 hot flush, periods became light and only every three months and then gone.

If I'd known I would have asked a doctor to put me through it much earlier.

Anyway would you have preferred to carry and give birth to quads every 9 months?

thecatneuterer · 08/09/2023 10:48

Anyway would you have preferred to carry and give birth to quads every 9 months?

Brilliant. Well exactly!

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AutumnDragon · 08/09/2023 11:01

Surely, if it is law that ALL cats are neutered, then cats will become extinct

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 08/09/2023 11:04

but just making it law should change mindsets and help charities and other bodies deal with problem owners.

I highly doubt it. Lots of things are currently the law with animals and nobody pays the blindest bit of notice because there's nobody to enforce it.

thecatneuterer · 08/09/2023 11:07

AutumnDragon · 08/09/2023 11:01

Surely, if it is law that ALL cats are neutered, then cats will become extinct

It was only a matter of time before someone said this. Firstly. licenced breeding would be allowed. Secondly, even if the law were for all to be neutered, there is such a huge stray and feral population, all giving birth in gardens, industrial sites, streets etc, that we would still be decades away from there being a shortage of cats. At which point perhaps restrictions could be loosened or we could start to bring in strays from other countries. The reality is cats breed so prolifically that we are very, very far away from ever getting the overpopulation under control, regardless of what laws might be in place.

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thecatneuterer · 08/09/2023 11:09

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 08/09/2023 11:04

but just making it law should change mindsets and help charities and other bodies deal with problem owners.

I highly doubt it. Lots of things are currently the law with animals and nobody pays the blindest bit of notice because there's nobody to enforce it.

You are probably right, but it would at least be a starting point.

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andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 08/09/2023 11:10

AutumnDragon · 08/09/2023 11:01

Surely, if it is law that ALL cats are neutered, then cats will become extinct

It will never happen.

andrainwillmaketheflowersgrow · 08/09/2023 11:12

I don't disagree with the idea @thecatneuterer I think it's great, I just think it's impossible to police.

I know loads of people with cats (and dogs) who have never seen a vet or a anything so there's no record of them even existing. Keep them indoors or in a secure area and nobody's going to know.

Superlegs · 08/09/2023 11:47

If they're kept indoors in a secure area then they'll not get pregnant.
Although why anyone would want to suffer a cat in heat, or an unneutered tom cat when a routine op could fix is beyond me.

LadyBird1973 · 08/09/2023 11:53

If you don't neuter female cats, their chances of developing cancer is much higher.