Anyone have experience of kidney disease and Hyperthyroidism?

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Just that really ...

Beautiful boy has CKD and recently diagnosed with hyperthyroidism. He is 15 years old and neutered.

He is eating, sleeping and toileting fine.

He is more vocal and fussy re foods (drives me mad!)

Now he's been diagnosed with hyperthyroidism I feel like I have to treat that and/or CKD and am torn.

Has anyone any experience of this please?

There is a recent thread on here about hyperthyroidism, OP.

My cat was on medication for both for about five years. He was 22 when he died.

Thanks both - will check out the thread

Cat diagnosed with hyperthyroidism - www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_litter_tray/4708493-cat-diagnosed-with-hyperthyroidism

I hope that link works!

It does - thanks @TheShellBeach

Our cat has both. Treatment with pills nearly killed here, but that was a very rare autoimmune interaction. She recently had the radioactive iodine treatment. Amazing results but was there for four weeks as we couldn't accommodate her at home. She's about to go on a special diet for kidneys.

Good news is that he's sleeping and toileting fine. Hyperthyroidism would normally make a cat more hungry until it's under control with treatment. If he's being fussy that could be due to CKD as they often feel nauseous with it - might be worth feeding little and often.

Both conditions cause cats to be more vocal, so I'm sorry to say that will continue.

What has the vet said about treating both? Both conditions will sadly cause him to lose weight. Either way, it's a balance of keeping him as comfortable as possible.

I haven't had a cat with both conditions, my last two had one of those conditions each.

Thanks all - and apologies for the delay in responding. Vet has advised liquid meds and re-tests (full blood count again) at 3 weeks - we have had frank discussion re renal issues and thyroid. He has said wait and see what the benefit/detriment is - and aim at moment if for cat to stabilise weight loss and/or gain. He's 3.8kg at moment and bloods suggest anemic though his creatine is "good". No option for iodine or surgery - he has a heart murmur (exacerbated by hyperthyroidism). Fingers crossed the oral meds will work or at least stabilise things

Our cat has CKD, hyperthyroidism, high blood pressure, and had diabetes (now in remission). So I sympathise!

Ours can't go on a renal diet, as it's too high in carbs and would trigger a return of diabetes. He also won't touch it anyway - we tried it once. So instead, we feed him specific flavours of Feringa (chicken, lamb and rabbit) that have the lowest phosphorous content - as phosphorus is an important factor in kidney disease. He loves this and eats it all, which has meant that he has been able to gain weight. His kidney readings actually improved after putting him on this food, which the vet was baffled by. Since then (about a year now), he's remained stable with nothing else needing to be done.

We are also looking into phosphorous binders (allows you to feed regular cat food instead of renal diet).

There are forums online about CKD that go into detail, if you Google "feline CKD and phosphorous".

For the hyperthyroidism - our cat gets a daily pill that we hide in a piece of chicken. It's worked brilliantly - his appetite is now regulated and he's gained weight, so is now just under 5kg (healthy for his size, he's a big/long cat).

Another thing that has really helped is a 5-section Cat Mate timed feeder. We give him his biggest portion of food at our bed time, which keeps him quiet until 6am. Previously, he'd yowl at midnight, 2am, 4am, etc. Then the rest is timed throughout the day. It could help :)

What kind of food is your kitty on?

Thanks @dustofneptune - will look into Feringa. He was on Royal Canin Renal pouches/dry food for about 3 years but now won't touch it. He has Melting Hearts, purina dry food (for elderly) and Sheba Sauce Lover - not perfect but the vet has says it's more important for him to keep eating (which he does!) than refusing to eat the good stuff. The timed feeding is a great idea too - though he does have dry food out all night too. Thanks again