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Staying in overnight

19 replies

Gemzee · 02/11/2022 11:53

Hi, does anyone have a cat they let out by day but keep in overnight without a litter tray?.

I have a 6 month old kitten who I have started letting out by day (very slowly, she explores for 5 or 10 mins then runs back in through the cat flap) and we are keen to get rid of the litter tray in a few weeks when she is confident going outside. However ideally I'd like to keep her in at night - can I do this without a litter tray?

My last beautiful cat we let out whenever (left catflap unlocked) and got rid of the litter tray but he sadly got runover in August (a very busy road is at the back of our garden).

I won't have her as an indoor cat as she is always looking out the window and crying to go out, plus I hate the litter tray (small house, only place to put it is in my dining room, literally no other options for where it could go!).

Can they hold their wee overnight? (I know when old they can't but she is only 6 months). Help please, thanks.

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Nodney · 02/11/2022 11:57

Two of my girls stay in at night without a litter tray. They are a bit older than yours though - 1 and 2. They can hold it. I live in the middle of nowhere and my others have out buildings they can use (with furry beds in them) if the weather isn't pleasant

CSR721 · 02/11/2022 11:58

My boy stays in over night. I do have a litter tray for him, but he rarely uses it only if he's got a dodgy tummy. He doesn't use it overnight generally.

ttacticall · 02/11/2022 12:16

I couldn't do that to a cat. I have multiple litter boxes. Ironically one of mine was accidentally shut in a hallway overnight and hadn't been able to wait until morning. She looked so guilty and was so upset. I feel awful about it still.
Please keep your litter box.

Beamur · 02/11/2022 12:21

You might find the cat uses it less once they're toileting outside anyway. I think it's not a great idea though to keep your cat in overnight without one.
What if they do need to go and can't hold it? Peeing on carpets and furniture is surely worse? All of mine can go outside during the daytime but 2 of them prefer to use trays - if the trays are not clean enough, they improvise! I have found a poo in the dirty laundry before now and they happily pee in the sink..

Gemzee · 02/11/2022 12:33

My mums cats didn't have a cat flap and she shut them in at night with no litter tray until they were old (18 & 20) and couldn't hold it. This is where I got the idea. I'll give it a of couple weeks though and see (she isn't at the stage of toileting outside yet anyway).
I may put it in the shed by day & bring in at night.

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PeloFondo · 02/11/2022 12:36

Gemzee · 02/11/2022 12:33

My mums cats didn't have a cat flap and she shut them in at night with no litter tray until they were old (18 & 20) and couldn't hold it. This is where I got the idea. I'll give it a of couple weeks though and see (she isn't at the stage of toileting outside yet anyway).
I may put it in the shed by day & bring in at night.

I would do that. Don't leave a cat without a tray just in case they have an upset tummy or something
Mine won't wee outside so he has a tray permanently!

Blowyourowntrumpet · 02/11/2022 12:38

I keep my cat in at night, but she has a litter tray. I think it's a bit cruel to keep her in with no litter tray. How would you like it if you weren't allowed to go to the toilet when you needed to? She's may be able to hold it, but she might be very uncomfortable or go to the toilet on the floor. I think it's cruel.

Theunamedcat · 02/11/2022 12:56

Just buy better cat litter surely? Not all litter trays need to "stink"

Gemzee · 02/11/2022 13:20

Theunamedcat · 02/11/2022 12:56

Just buy better cat litter surely? Not all litter trays need to "stink"

It doesn't smell to be honest (I didn't say it stinks), especially when theres no wee or poo in it, the problem is more the flicking of dirty litter around by my dinner table & needing to empty it near where we eat. Also if she poos while we are eating it is gross. I use Catsan which works fine to be honest. It's unfortunate that it is literally the only place it can go in house.

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Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 02/11/2022 13:23

Our 2 have access to outside til about 9pm - food time! Then they sleep on dd's beds. There is 1 litter tray in there.. They go out about 8 am. They have dcat tree and beds in the utility room which goes to outside..

Yarnosaur · 02/11/2022 13:32

Mine has a curfew from teatime to breakfast, she has a tray, uses it maybe 3-5 times a week, she's learnt the routine and usually dashes out for a wee/poo when she realises it's teatime! I wouldn't keep a cat inside without a tray. Just get a high sided lidded/flapped tray and you'll get far less mess. I use one similar to this:

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helpfulperson · 02/11/2022 14:34

I think there needs to be a tray available overnight but it could be covered during the day. It can also be a smaller tray than you would have for an inside cat as hopefully it is emergency use only. I can't remember the last time mine used their tray but I prefer it to be there for them.

WyldeSwan · 02/11/2022 20:01

My cat very rarely used her litter tray when she was out during day / in on a night. Used it maybe once over a whole summer when out for longer with light nights. But I think it is unfair on the cat and asking for trouble not to have one available.

If it's not used, it's not smelling or making a mess, so not a problem. If it is used then it was clearly needed.

thelobsterquadrille · 03/11/2022 06:44

I don't understand this obsession with getting rid of litter trays.

Surely one of the basic parts of owning a cat is providing them with somewhere clean and safe so they can go to the toilet?

As you can tell I really disagree with shutting cats inside without access to a tray. They shouldn't be forced to "hold it" or have an accident just because people can't be bothered to deal with a litter tray.

Gemzee · 03/11/2022 07:55

I was asking a question, it's not that I can't be bothered to deal with it!

So I have my answer, I will keep the tray outside and bring it in at night. Thanks for your opinion all.

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RavenT · 03/11/2022 07:57

Keep my cat in at night and have a litter tray, which he uses most nights.

Carlycat · 03/11/2022 20:04

They need access to a litter tray as we need access to a toilet during the night
It's a no brainer

lmnabc · 03/11/2022 20:14

I have two cats and would never shut them In without a litter tray. Cats are clean animals and I couldn't cause them such stress. Appalling.

Traisonthewine78 · 03/11/2022 20:15

I have a covered litter tray that i but outside in the day and just bring in overnight so it's not in the house all the time. Works for me.

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