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Dangerously Hungry Cat!

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07Jan · 07/01/2022 23:06

I have a rescue cat (she was picked up as a stray) approximately 1.9 years old, I've had her about 9 months
She is neutered, great health, normal weight no worms etc.
When she arrived to me she was seriously small and underweight - I thought she was 4- 5 months old as she was so small.
Within a few weeks of eating well she gained weight and doubled in size.
Her weight is now stable as I have been very consistent with her food as the vet told me she was getting too fat.

The problem is she is ravenously hungry all the time.
She will break into the bins, fridge, food cupboards which now all have toddler locks on them.
She will steal food from your plates, hands while eating, the stove while cooking, etc.

She will eat anything of food origin, eg even raw broccoli ends from the bin etc.

She is fearless, I've tried spraying her with a water spray bottle when she goes on the table or kitchen worktops etc. it only works when you physically remove her - I currently lock her out of the kitchen-diner while cooking/eating (outside) using the cat flap, if I try and shut her out internally she digs at the door continuously.
When it's her food time, she will aggressively hassle you for her breakfast/dinner - including scratching and trying to bite for attention (needless to say whoever is up earliest feeds her immediately - which is standard - but it's the actual aggression which is worrying.

She has free access to outside/the garden - she does go out, but mostly like to stay home. She doesn't seem to hunt, only brought back one 'present' she's not particularly bored, she plays with her toys, hangs around with the humans of the house or the dog.

Is there anything I can do?

I hate having to lock her out of the house while cooking and eating etc - especially when it's cold, but it's so dangerous when you're cooking and she tries to knock the hot pans on the floor etc, or when you are chopping and she's trying to grab things.
I'm 99% vegetarian, so I'm not even cooking meat/fish!
I'm worried she will poison herself one day.

OP posts:
07Jan · 07/01/2022 23:10

Just to add, she gets total of 2 packets of felix food a day, plus all the things she steals!
She seems to get fat if I feed her more, but maybe I should just feed her to death, she might be happy then!
She's currently curled up on my bed with me and the dog, she's lovely when she's not on hunger mode!

OP posts:
NeverDropYourMoonCup · 07/01/2022 23:15

2 pouches is fuck all for a healthy young cat.

She's hungry because she's not being fed enough and what she is having is crap.

DwangelaForever · 07/01/2022 23:17

My rescue cat is like this too! He's not a year yet, I think he might have had to fight for food when he was younger. It's made my older cat turn into a greedy grabber too. Bloody nightmare the both of them!

DwangelaForever · 07/01/2022 23:18

I think cats should have at least 3 pouches a day I think!

Theunamedcat · 07/01/2022 23:19

Diet biscuits as a filler she can eat more then my vet reccomended them for my fat cat after he started stealing people's Sunday lunches I mean a cat carrying home a pork joint that was almost as big as him was hilarious but I had just moved in and i didn't want to introduce myself to the neighbours like that he also got their beef and another joint of meat too

HaroldMeeker · 07/01/2022 23:22

It doesn't sound like a lot of food to me for a young active cat. Could you add a good quality, no grain, dry food so she can graze as and when?

Sonata13 · 07/01/2022 23:28

Mine has 3 pouches and biscuits all day long. He definitely has food issues after being abandoned and left to starve. He also eats a few times a night.
Your cat probably remembers starving and needs lots of food to feel secure. My cat is 12 now and still eats all the time! They have very long memories!

floppybit · 07/01/2022 23:35

That's nowhere near enough food, she's bloody hungry!! Give her at least 3 pouches per day plus free access to biscuits to graze on

SilverHairedCat · 07/01/2022 23:42

My cat is 16 and suddenly started similar behaviour - the vet thinks she has thyroid issues so we're just waiting for the blood test results this week. She's already got renal disease and dangerously high blood pressure bless her.

Maybe a phonecall to ask the vet about this?

Dilbertian · 07/01/2022 23:42

What about letting her have good dry food available all the time, but in a device that she has to engage with to access the food. One of these for example, though of course there are many other makes as well.

afaloren · 07/01/2022 23:44

You’re not feeding the poor thing enough! Give her good quality dry food to bulk things up. Two pouches of Felix is nothing. Also make sure she always has access to fresh water.

07Jan · 08/01/2022 00:00

Thanks for the replies.

The vet told me to reduce her food as she was too fat. I reduced/eliminated her dry food and her weight is now better - she's 100% not underweight - in fact I'd still say she is overweight for a young cat, but not worryingly so.

Can someone tell me which cat food I should be feeding her if felix is crap?
(The rescue insisted she was to be fed Felix - the jelly version)

And which dry food brand?

That would be really helpful as I used all about dog food for my dog, but I dont think there's a cat version?

I've tried the cat food toys, she breaks them open with her teeth, and as the plastic is brittle and sharp I don't want her to hurt herself so I remove them.

OP posts:
07Jan · 08/01/2022 00:06

@Sonata13

Mine has 3 pouches and biscuits all day long. He definitely has food issues after being abandoned and left to starve. He also eats a few times a night. Your cat probably remembers starving and needs lots of food to feel secure. My cat is 12 now and still eats all the time! They have very long memories!
@Sonata13

Is your cat very over-weight or has their weight stabilised?

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WhatsitWiggle · 08/01/2022 00:08

As others have said, if she's now a healthy weight (4kg or so?) then 2 pouches is about half the food she should be getting. Plus Felix is mainly bulk, there's hardly any meat in it. Can you switch to a more protein-heavy wet food to fill her up?

Supplement it with dry food that she can graze at. I would disagree with the poster who said to use a cat feeder - if she's aggressive and previously feral she needs to know that you or members of your family are providing the food.

Theunamedcat · 08/01/2022 00:09

She could be bored get a cardboard box fill it with toys and a few treats or catnip seal it shut and put a few paw holes in it allow her to tear it apart to get into the treats/nip my boys love that we also used to have a dog treat ball I would put diet cat biscuits in and let fatcat loose on it he spent ages getting the "treats" out you can also get an electronic ball that rolls around randomly and they chase it for fun

Like humans its not all about diet exercise plays a role and mental stimulation is key in distracting fat cats from food

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 08/01/2022 00:14

We had a similar issue with one of our rescues; it was exhausting. She was fed two pouches a day plus dry food (I'd recommend Hill's Science biscuits) but we realised that outside of standard meal times she needed to graze.
We now feed her slightly less at meal times but keep the dry food available all the time. The change in her has been unreal, no more thieving and a much more contented cat.
We have two others who are wolfers rather than grazers and interestingly they don't tend to touch the bowl of dry during the day at all.

afaloren · 08/01/2022 00:16

If you get the Hill’s Science brand they do a light/diet version of biscuits. You may well find once she has access to graze through the day her thieving stops.

Danikm151 · 08/01/2022 00:30

Pouch in the morning, pouch in the evenings and dry food in her other bowl all day so she can eat when hungry.
Plenty of fresh water is needed too.

MidnightMeltdown · 08/01/2022 00:46

My cats also have 3 pouches each a day, plus dry food always available. I thought that this was standard.

Both are over a year old and under 4kg, so not overweight.

PrincessNutNuts · 08/01/2022 01:08

What if she's just desperately hungry?

What if you tried feeding her enough on a regular schedule, and have some dry food down all the time so she never has to feel the distress of that scary "too hungry" feeling in her tummy again?

My eldest cat used to be a stray and the fear of starvation stays with some of them.

Teach her that she can trust you to feed her enough food often enough, and all this will probably calm down.

It's quite likely that she restricts her activity to reduce calorie burn because she's not getting enough to eat.

If you feed her enough food she'll have more energy to do more and it will probably all balance out.

Double whatever you're giving her and space it evenly throughout the day.

If you become the reliable human she needs she'll be the calm relaxed cat.

dementedpixie · 08/01/2022 01:31

Mine have thrive/encore dry left out and wet food a couple of times day

SpringDaisies · 08/01/2022 01:35

I have a Shelter cat, and initially I found that he would eat anything and everything - the food I gave him and I couldn’t cook for the first 3 weeks, I could only ‘heat up’ food, as he was all over me when chopping up food.

However, right from the start I fed him a Hills wet pouch in the morning, and another in the afternoon. He also has unlimited Hills Science dry food, which I just check and top up each time I feed him a wet pouch. He goes through about quarter to a third of a cup off dry food a day, depending on what he’s been up too.

I think this was an excellent routine for him. After a few weeks he realised he would always have food, and he knows the routine for more. I think this was a big thing, and he couldn’t guarantee this at his older homes.

Occasionally he gets a bit aggressive at (my) dinner cooking time, and I’ll usually find that his dry bowl is empty (he must have eaten more than day for some reason).

Weight-wise, he put on a lot of weight at the start (as he was painfully underweight), but it ha snow leveled out. He might have just a slight stomach, but he he such an active cat/kitten I think he needs it for growth.

Perhaps give the regular feeding times a try? And the unlimited dry food.

SpaceshiptoMars · 08/01/2022 01:36

FWIW, my last cat lived until 23. Was very sick as a kitten and the vet thought she had cat aids. I switched to a raw meat diet, and she rapidly improved. Never a problem with weight, and no other issues apart from worms or fleas a couple of times until her back legs gave out.

ozymandiusking · 08/01/2022 01:48

What about trying her with a tin of tuna fish ( for humans!) well half for one meal and the other half the day after. I think cats get bored and need a change. fresh cooked chicken, the thighs from Asda are good for cats and humans.
Two sachets is nowhere near enough food, she should have biscuits available all the time, obviously water.
We have a rescue cat who was a stray, and I am convinced they need to be fed when they want and always have food down, and then they learn that food is always there and always available, so they don't need to steal.
I think it's irrelevant after all this time what the rescue people said.
Please don't lock her out, and I don't think you should be spraying her with water, just say "no" very firmly, and lift her off the work tops.Repeatedly. Take her to the vet and see what they say.
Hope this helps.

TheHallouminati · 08/01/2022 01:59

Does dcat have access to the outside? Perhaps someone else was feeding her when she was gaining weight and now for some reason they're not so she's had a drop in food intake.
I agree with others, two pouches won't be enough for a healthy young cat. I would recommend something like Canagan or McAdams - good quality foods with a high meat content and which won't have large amounts of grain "fillers". Feed a wet food in the morning and evening but measure out a portion of dry to be kept out so she can graze. Cats tend to prefer to eat little and often.

I would also possibly treat her for worms if you don't already.