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Semi-feral cats!

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Emmajane88 · 29/12/2021 19:02

Hello

I've had the opportunity to take care of a semi-feral cat - he's a few months old, neutered etc and was on a smallholding in the country - the owners were getting rid of a few they had accidently. I know the articles, views and negative stories about this and trying to turn them into a more house-based cat, so looking for helpful advice here. I have the time and patience to put in.

Anyone have any tips or done this previously? He's new this week and is very quiet at the moment, not hissy or scratchy but staying in his crate (in his own room) and not really eating or drinking.

Any advice on soothing as part of this very stressful transition much appreciated! Positive news stories also welcome!...

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thecatneuterer · 29/12/2021 19:56

My house is full of semi feral cats, most of which are now soppy moggies. A couple are still full on feral (after two to three years) but are still happy to cohabit with me.

So you're starting him off in a dog crate? That's a good idea. You may need to keep him in there for a month or more. However after a week I would move the whole crate to a busy area of the house so he can get used to it. Make sure he has something he can hide in (a box or covered bed) in the crate. When you eventually decide to let him out then just open the crate door but leave the crate in situ for at least another week as he may keep running back to it.

Semi ferals have to have a cat flap. Otherwise, once they go out, they will never come back in. If they have a flap then, knowing that they can always escape if they feel the need, makes them relax about staying inside.

Allergictoironing · 29/12/2021 20:03

I took on a pair of cats who had spent their first year as part of a feral colony, though they had spent the next year at the rescue failing to be rehomed. They mainly didn't go because a) they were black, b) bonded pair who had to go together and c) incredibly shy & would hide away from everyone.

Also, I had always wanted indoor only cats and this was a condition of their adoption (either that, or farm semi-feral). The reason for this is that even if kept in longer than most do after rehoming, they could go feral again very easily especially if they get frightened.

Brought them home & kept them in the living room at first, didn't even see them for days (behind the sofa) though food and water were going overnight and the tray being used. Took me weeks before I was letting them in other rooms, 6 months before I got to stroke Girlcat and even longer for Boycat. They didn't make a sound for the first couple of years.

Fast forward 5 years, and they are the most demanding cuddle monsters. Girlcat squeaks at me very loudly if I'm not paying attention to her, Boycat makes little sort of growly murmurs when he is summoning me to the sofa for belly rubs. They will both occasionally let out a cry for attention too.

I am absolutely besotted with them still, and would definitely call mine a very positive story. My number 1 tip would be patience, patience and more patience. I let them come to me in their own time, just made sure I spent most of my time in "their" room and talked to them conversationally e.g. commenting on the TV programmes I was watching. I made sure we had a routine e.g. at bed time I would do everything in the same order, talking to them, and always leaving a few dreamies out. Nowadays I get pestered with quiet yowls from Girlcat if I'm late up to bed!

Good luck, and don't forget to pay the Litter Tray tax when he comes out of hiding Grin

Allergictoironing · 29/12/2021 20:07

Oh meant to say, trying a pheremone based product like Feliway may help!

Listen to the words of TheCatNeuterer, she is wise and knowledgable about the ways of cats especially those who are typically less easy to home!

Mia184 · 29/12/2021 21:29

Here is a text on feral cats that may be of help to you: theluckyfew.org/site/feral_cats.html

Yarnivore · 29/12/2021 21:53

Mine was a semi feral, I did not want a lap cat, or a needy cat, and here I am a year and a bit later with a cuddly bitey lap cat who sleeps in my bed Grin

She stayed in our small spare room for about 3 weeks before we opened the door when she decided it was time, and she very slowly expanded her territory. We were advised 6-8 weeks before letting her outside but she showed no interest until about 6 months in, and for a while only used a window, taking a few more months before she'd use the flap.

The things that actually surprised me most were 1. She hates eating alone, and demands us to go with her to her food so she can eat (I even have a bowl of food in my bedroom-come-study) and 2. That she is very fussy with food and wants the same food, no variety, and shows no interest in human food (included raw and cooked meat) at all.

It was quite upsetting at times in the early weeks/months as she was so easily spooked, I remember the noise of bad weather on the TV would terrify her, or if we were carrying something she'd run back to her room, even if it was just a phone or water bottle, and we had to always let her go in rooms and up/down stairs first, as she'd freak if she felt trapped.

Emmajane88 · 29/12/2021 21:59

Thanks all so far, very useful and interesting! We'll see how he turns out. I do have a cat flap which I will introduce to him in a few weeks following a slow expansion of territory

Anyone have any thoughts about the slow take up of food/littering?

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Emmajane88 · 29/12/2021 22:00

maybe I mean *months there!

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Yarnivore · 29/12/2021 22:08

Are you feeding him what he's used to?

If he has wet food he may not drink much at all, and that is fine.

TheCreamCaker · 29/12/2021 22:51

My old boy (about 17) was feral, until I found him and took him in 10 years ago.

Why are you keeping yours in a crate? He will feel shut in (that could be why he's not eating and drinking) and he won't be used to that at all.

With mine, I slept on the settee for 4 nights (my husband though I was mad) so that I was here with him - he had a fleecy blanket on the settee - when he howled to go out. The noise he used to make was awful. I fed him at certain times so that he gradually realised that he would never go hungry. Water and dry food was down at all times, as was the litter tray. He was, for months, terrified of all noise - the tv, 'phone, next-door neighbour moving about, us going up or down stairs, the washing machine, etc.

He went out, came back when he was ready, and he gradually became trusting of us.

I've had several cats (not all feral but all from shelters) over the past 41 years. Never once used a crate or had a cat flap. Picture of my old boy - he's the gentlest, most affectionate cat I've ever had. Good luck with your kitty.

Semi-feral cats!
thecatneuterer · 29/12/2021 23:18

@TheCreamCaker A crate is the best way to get a feral socialised. If they have a whole room they will just hide under furniture and never have any interaction. And in a crate they will be able to become used to the household while feeling secure. And you have been extremely lucky if you have managed to get ferals coming in and out without a cat flap. Anyway luckily the OP has one so we don't need to get into that.

OP you could, if you have a spare room, just leave him in a spare room without a crate (and of course never with the window open), and just spend time in there. I will probably take a bit longer but it is another option.

Either way OP it's usual for them not to eat much at first. Don't worry about it, he will soon start (assuming you're offering the sort of food he's used to, and a choice of wet and dry).

Emmajane88 · 30/12/2021 08:47

Update: he has now eaten and littered during the night. I left him in the open dog crate in a room of his own. I also used one of those plug ins as recommended by some one…

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Yarnivore · 30/12/2021 10:48

Excellent news Star

Emmajane88 · 30/12/2021 12:37

It is! Hiding again now but relieved he’s done some essential bodily functions!

He ‘meeps’ in the morning before and when I’m in the room first thing, then stops. Any thoughts? Scared or hungry or calling for backup? No hissing or scratching ever.

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Yarnivore · 30/12/2021 12:56

The meep sounds positive. I remember mine being so quiet when she first came, she's a right gobby wotsit now!

thecatneuterer · 30/12/2021 13:40

The 'meeps' (never heard it called that before, very pleasingly onomatopoeic) are a good thing. They mean he isn't properly feral. Feral cats are always silent around people (apart from hissing). Any other cat sounds are an attempt to communicate with humans and something only done by socialised cats. So I've no idea what they mean but they are a GOOD THING.

Emmajane88 · 30/12/2021 18:17

That's interesting. He doesn't do it often, just in the morning before I visit and when I arrive. I'm guessing this was the main time he was fed previously?

I've had conflicting advice about the amount of time to spend in there - barely any - respect the space - to more and more, just doing normal things...

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thecatneuterer · 30/12/2021 18:25

I would spend as much time around him as you can.

Yarnivore · 30/12/2021 18:29

I went in at fairly fixed times that worked for me and aligned with feeding times. Always first thing in the morning, then mid-morning, after lunch, mid afternoon and then after tea and a couple more times in the evening.

Sometimes she was fast asleep so I would just leave, other times she was playful. I made sure she had a lot of enrichment stuff to keep her busy, which was a good call for her as she is a very busy and nosey cat.

The after tea visit was clearly her favourite visit as even now she leads me and ds to 'her' room after tea to do 'playtime'.

Emmajane88 · 31/12/2021 09:26

Ok, so this morning we had some ‘chatting’ - little meows which I responded to and so did he. Probably for a few minutes. Then some play under the sofa with one of those strings on sticks. He came further out from his hiding place. Can’t tell if he’s just ‘alright’ or some cat nip has got to him from a toy!

Sorry for the regular updates but advice is very useful!

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Yarnivore · 31/12/2021 10:34

That's fab.

Emmajane88 · 01/01/2022 16:36

Some interesting behaviour today - rolling under the sofa where he’s hiding (revealing his belly) and kind of padding the air (like a lap cat might on your lap). This is when giving him attention vocally or feeding. He won’t eat in public but I did manage to feed him a treat out of my hand in his hiding place.

Can’t imagine him coming out from under that sofa!…..

I have a vets appointment for him in a few days (jabs and check over) but a little worried this will stress him out and undo what SEEMS like good progress. Carry on or postpone, you think?

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thecatneuterer · 01/01/2022 16:41

I would carry on with the appointment. It's unlikely to undo the progress for more than a few hours.

AlfonsoTheGoat · 01/01/2022 16:42

Sorry for the regular updates but advice is very useful!

Please never apologise for updates. We all want to know how your little furry owner is doing.

AlfonsoTheGoat · 01/01/2022 16:43

Carry on - don't postpone. Even if it sets progress back a bit, getting the vet to give him a good once-over is worth it.

AlfonsoTheGoat · 01/01/2022 16:44

@Emmajane88

That's interesting. He doesn't do it often, just in the morning before I visit and when I arrive. I'm guessing this was the main time he was fed previously?

I've had conflicting advice about the amount of time to spend in there - barely any - respect the space - to more and more, just doing normal things...

Increase the time you spend with him. It's good if you can read out loud or talk to him - anything that will accustom him to your voice and presence.
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