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Two kittens: one boisterous bully; one timid traumatised

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hellotesting123123 · 25/01/2021 22:03

If you introduce two kittens and it doesn't work well (ie one attacking and overpowering the other till they both have to separated), is there any way to re-set? I'm worried they're never going to get along after such a bad start! Or, will it settle down if I just leave them to it?

I bought a very rambunctious eight week old kitten a week ago and quickly realised through internet research that it would be better for her (and me) if I also get a companion of a similar age. So, one week later, when she'd settled in really well (apart from the play aggression directed at me), I bought her a friend of the same breed and one week apart.

This new friend, though, has I think been a little traumatised by living for a week with an older cat who beat her up repeatedly. She seems a little boney, needy and stressed which I guess is from a week of being bullied.

After a little period of keeping them apart and swapping the rooms they were in so they could smell eachother, and also after I just couldn't take the yowling of one of them if I was spending chunks of time with the other (I was worried I was doing them damage - especially the new nervous one) I introduced them. Probably too early I admit.

It seemed like it was going ok - there was some repricocity in their fighting, with little pauses, so it officially seemed like play - but the boisterous one, who is way more settled in and also now quite full in the belly, just keeps attacking the nervous and thinner one who has not fully had time to settle in. I think a well-ajusted kitten would just give her as good as she gets back; it starts of good natured but then as the other one is so much slower and nervous she starts to dominate. The nervous one keeps growling and occasionally hissing, which I've heard means she is not enjoying it, but she doesn't really defend herself - whereas the boisterous one often jumps really high and gets the nervous one in a neck lock. So then I wade in, shout no at the boisterous one and put her in another room for a while (which I feel so guilty for as she's just being a kitten!). I read that if you allow a dynamic to start then it will continue and I don't want kitten A to bully kitten B, who's already had a tough time.

I feel so guilty for introducing them both too early, but I also feel like now I've done it I can't go back - they both just yowl whenever I'm not with them, so I need to find a way to keep them together without traumatising the second one. The first one is SO full of energy, whereas I thnk the other probably hasn't been eating from the stress of the other cat.

Any advice on whether this can be corrected, or have I ruined this now?

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steppemum · 25/01/2021 22:09

I think you need to separate the timid one. Spend time with her one to one, and build her confidence and fatten her up!
Feed them apart, and have one room which belongs to the timid cat.

Give them short supervised contact. Start with the timid one on your lap, with you.

But I am not a kitten expert. You need @thecatneuterer

hellotesting123123 · 25/01/2021 22:11

Thanks @steppemum! @thecatneuterer I would love advice on what to do at night - I originally slept with kitten number 1 but feel like kitten number 2 needs it now. But I don't want kitten number 1 to feel neglected. Either way, whoever I'm not sleeping with will yowl all night!!

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steppemum · 25/01/2021 22:13

Are you on your own?
Is there anyone else in your house who can cuddle a cat?

hellotesting123123 · 25/01/2021 22:45

On my own. Bubbling with boyfriend who was here today, so we made sure both cats always had company. He can't really come back until Thursday though so it's me on my own for a few days...

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hellotesting123123 · 28/01/2021 21:43

Just an update on this - timid kitten has really declined in health I think; she started off very skinny and not eating much which I assumed was stress but she didn't eat anything today and, after a couple of trips to the vet in the past two days, she may need hospitalisation if she doesn't improve with the antibiotics they've given her.

I don't have any children and this is my first pet, but I'm actually feeling physically sick from how stressful this all is. I'm very concerned about the little thing and feeling awfully guilty for introducing her to another kitten who I'm sure has contributed to her stress. I'm also feeling stupid for not getting some sort of contract / making sure that the person I bought her from had insurance etc.

I've already spent about £400, and if she needs hospitalisation it's going to be around £1000. I am not covered by insurance yet as we're in the initial two week period and I really can't afford to keep up this level of expense. Again, am feeling stupid for not thinking about this beforehand. Just had no idea how many kittens got sick at this age :(

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Fluffycloudland77 · 29/01/2021 09:34

Oh dear, what do they think it is?. Where did you get her from?.

Prestel · 29/01/2021 12:14

Oh dear, the poor thing. I really don't think the introduction to the other kitten has had an effect one way or another, it sounds like she was poorly when she came to you. The breeder you bought her from is at fault here. I think you need to get more information from the vet about what her prospects are, does she have a good chance of full recovery if you can find the money for hospitalization or are you potentially looking at euthanasia being the kinder option. If it's something treatable but expensive, your vet may be able to point you to charities that might be able to help, but I fear that may be a bit of a long shot and you have unfortunately acquired yourself an expensive responsibility. It's a very sad situation.

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