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Which cat to rehome - or neither? Gutted at the thought of either

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yelyah22 · 15/11/2020 23:18

[LONG, but in dire need of help!]

We have 3 cats: two (aged 3) that we got as a pair (apparently siblings, but they are not bonded - have never slept side by side for example), and one aged 18 months.

The older two were largely unphased by the arrival of the youngest and for a long time, everything was fine(* I'll come back to this).

However the last few months, girl cat (one of the siblings) has developed a HATRED of the youngest. Like, really hates him, has started guarding rooms in the house so he can't go in them, attacks him, hisses when he goes past. This isn't every day, or all the time, but it's definitely getting worst. She obviously isn't happy, and youngest cat is now scared of her.

We have tried:

  • Moving all resources (food, litter trays, water) to separate areas, and they even have their own wand and jingly toys to make sure they don't try and resource guard stuff.
  • Feliway Friends; only a month in right now, but making zero noticeable difference
  • Spending dedicated time one on one with both of them seperately - i.e when girl cat is in a room, quietly shutting the door and giving her loads of fuss without younger cat nearby to distract, and vice versa
  • TONS of play time with both, each day, both apart and - occasionally - in the same area
  • Increased their feeds, as we switched to a different food a while ago and we wondered if they were a bit hungry.

None of this has made the blindest bit of difference and it's getting worse - girl cat will now swipe at the human walking past her when she's started growling, even though once youngest cat is removed from the scenario she's a snugglebug and super lovey immediately.

In theory - failing anything else helping, and out of fairness to them both becauase this is not sustainable - we should rehome the youngest: he's the newest, he came into her space, the other two came as a pair.

However...

We have often said she would be happiest as an only cat - she's extremely territorial over her beds and her humans (possibly the problem here - she has chosen me as 'hers', as has youngest cat). Her and her sibling are not fussed for one another - they don't sleep together, have never groomed one another, don't greet each other. She is, when youngest isn't around, a LOVELY cat, so snuggly and friendly and chirpy. She's very pretty, too - a dainty calico girl.

Youngest is: a big fat rectangle black cat with a gormless face (i.e. not first pick at the rescue - although we would rehome him personally, but you know what I mean - he's a harder sell!). He is also, unfortunately, the most vocal cat I've ever, ever met. To the point where we don't sleep a full night, and haven't since we got him. He is currently under referral to a behavioural expert, to see if this is some kind of anxiety: he's always been like this, since he was a teeny tiny kitten, and his siblings are like this too - they were partly hand reared, which the vet thinks is the issue. Girl cat HATES his vocalisations at the moment, and in turn he seems to be getting worse.

He would be a very difficult cat to rehome. He's hard work, he's vocal all night every night, and I wouldn't know how to tread the line between honesty (I sleep on the sofa 3-4 nights a week because he won't settle otherwise, and usually only in 3 hour bursts) and not letting them know what they were in for in the hopes they'd take him.

My hope is that he gets his behavioural referral, they prescribe him anti-anxiety meds (as the vet says they will - he just needs the diagnosis from the behaviourist to prescribe), his vocalisations die down and girl cat chills out and they all go back to normal, with the bonus that I can sleep in my own bed.

But if that doesn't happen, do we rehome him (difficult, scared nobody will want him, a hard 'sell' considering everyone knows what a wee pain in the arse he's been since we got him), or her (separating her from her sibling, she was here first).

Selfishly, and despite him being permanently on his bullshit, youngest cat is just my tiny love and the thought of him going somewhere else breaks my heart. He is noisy and hard work and I've never been so sleep deprived, but he is SO loving and snuggly and he gives so much back. In an ideal world where she could find someone who adored her and gave her an amazing life and she definitely wouldn't miss her sibling (and he wouldn't miss her), I would rehome her instead.

But we took her in and told each other when we rehomed youngest that the older two came first and if it wasn't working at any point, they were our priority. It's now not working.

Any ideas how to magically fix them? What do we do if we can't?

P.S. The third cat is a perfect, sweet, unassuming angel who is the platonic ideal of cats, bless him.
P.P.S. We can't slow-reintroduce them because of the layout of our house and how vocal he is: he would HOWL for hours on end if we popped him in a room for a week or so, and he would freak out. Can you slow-reintroduce from, say, a cattery? If we let him take a little holiday? Or is that madness?

If you got this far, you've got my undying thanks. I'm here crying my heart out at the thought of either of these beautiful little idiots thinking we don't want them any more, but also at how unhappy they seem to be currently.

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yelyah22 · 15/11/2020 23:38

Oh god - this has paragraphs on desktop, but not on the app, SORRY!

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yelyah22 · 16/11/2020 10:48

Hopeful bump for the daytime litter tray crowd!

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ContraIndicated · 16/11/2020 11:13

I’d rehome the girl. Her behaviour is probably contributing to his and he may calm down if she’s gone. It doesn’t sound like the siblings will miss each other and being an only cat will be good for her.

AndyMurraysCat · 16/11/2020 11:16

I would say the same, re-home the female. She will be better off being re-homed as an only cat I think.

Elvesinquarantine · 16/11/2020 11:17

I would rehome the most miserable.. The girl dcat..

Assume she is neutered?
Ours was awful until she was done.
And ime calico dcats are always feisty!
Do not feel bad op.

JorisBonson · 16/11/2020 11:36

Yes, agree with getting the girl rehomed.

DH had a now 12 year old and 9 year old girl when we met, and we've recently taken the 12 year old girl to her retirement home at MIL's. She hated the younger girl from day 1, and it's just got worse and worse every year, eventually meaning that the younger girl just wouldn't come inside.

Younger girl is now a happy, funny and confident little thing, while older girl had no other cats and the run of the house.

sweetkitty · 16/11/2020 11:41

We had the same cat situation as you, brother and sister pair who didn’t get on, then another boy 3 years younger. Boys really got on but they bullied girl cat. Things like they would walk into a room see she was comfy in a bed, make a noise and she could run away frightened and they would then sleep where she used to be. We said she would prefer to be an only cat in a house with an older person who would dote on her. When she was about 10 my Dad was looking for a cat but didn’t want a kitten. Seemed ideal, she lived the rest of her life with him, he lives alone so nice and peaceful for her, he doted on her too. And we could visit her. Best situation for her. Sometimes you got to think what would be best for the animal however sad it may be for us.

yelyah22 · 16/11/2020 12:03

Thank you all - I tend to agree, I think she would be far happier by herself. But I feel awful, especially as she's so attached to me, and that's clouding my judgement a bit.

She's spayed and otherwise healthy - we got her checked over - so it really is just that she's decided youngest cat is the enemy. It coincided with us working from home all the time, so I don't know if the change in routine sparked something, but she evidently isn't a happy girl at the moment.

I think I will have to start putting feelers out for her - she really is gorgeous and so friendly when he's not around, she'll make a lovely only cat. I'll miss her very much though :( :( :(

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yelyah22 · 16/11/2020 12:06

Here she is, gorgeous little egg

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RandomMess · 16/11/2020 12:52

We got a sibling pair as they turned 2 (much loved but massive change in owners life) the girl bonded with me, like a physical attachment (the breed is known for being people orientated).

When I returned to work full time a year later and DH was home more she was all over him until I walked in the room at which point she would leap off and blank him 😂

5 years on we are more equal in her eyes and is all over the teen DC until we appear 😂

My point is simply that she will
bond to her next owner very quickly!!

yelyah22 · 16/11/2020 12:55

Thanks Random - that actually really helps. I know I'm putting human emotions on her and that she is not going to be thinking 'I have been betrayed' haha, but it still feels terrible!

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RandomMess · 16/11/2020 13:04

She would be very suited to person that will always be home based and wants a permanent irritating companion...

No way could we let ours sleep in our room they are shut 3 doors away downstairs and she eventually stopped demanding to be with me overnight!!! Who wants a cat attached to their head overnight every night 🤦🏼‍♀️

Mine loved lockdown when the teens were off school because there was someone to go to bed with all day!!!

Levatrice · 16/11/2020 13:28

Ah op what a situation Sad I would rehome the female if going down that route yes

yelyah22 · 16/11/2020 15:52

I kinow @Levatrice - I don't 'want' to rehome either of them :( I love them both tons and they're both my babies with such big personalities. But I am trying really hard to be realistic about what's best for them and anticipate the advice the behaviourist is going to give when we see them about youngest cat :(

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Levatrice · 16/11/2020 16:20

No I’m sure you don’t! It must be heartbreaking but it seems they are both miserable in the same house for whatever reason and it’s not improving ; maybe best thing is to seperate them and the possibly more resilient female one being the one that goes to another loving home Sad such a a shame. Their long term happiness is the flip of the coin to your distress though x

RandomMess · 16/11/2020 17:00

I have been thinking about your situation and tbh I only know of female cats that's are so possessive over one of their humans to the point where they are either complete boss of all underling cats or have had to be rehomed from a multi cat household.

It's probably some instinctive thing to do with providing resources for their kittens or some such inbuilt requirement.

I know if it happening to a hobby breeder (as in a litter every 2-3 years) and her having to heart breaking rehome her very much lived 7 year old girl. It was like one day she just wouldn't share anymore and all the cats were miserable.

Said Princess is now surrounded with doting human slaves and very content as are the others in her original home. Her owner tried EVERYTHING to settle them as a group but she just wasn't tolerating any of them ever again Confused

yelyah22 · 16/11/2020 18:48

I'm watching her this evening - she doesn't like playing when the other two are around, she's happiest when they've gone out. I really do think she would be happier being someone's only girl... my poor territorial baby. :(

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RandomMess · 16/11/2020 18:52

You need to reframe that...

She is an over entitled Princess that deems your hotel below par!

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Veterinari · 16/11/2020 18:54

It sounds as if the female will be much happier as an only cat.
Can you rehome her directly?

FourPlatinumRings · 16/11/2020 19:06

Goes without saying, hopefully, but either re-home to trusted friends or family or to a shelter. Don't use sites like pets4homes or newspaper ads.

yelyah22 · 16/11/2020 20:36

Haha you're right Random - clearly the other inhabitants are disturbing her. :)

Thank you all so much - I really needed to hear I would be doing the right thing by my girl. And it goes without saying we would re-home directly and she wouldn't be going anywhere we weren't sure she would be loved and cared for. Unfortunately my mum has just got her own demanding girl cat or she would be going there!

This evening she's been fine, thankfully - we played with the 'flicky Santa' toy and then she played her favourite game, drinking my bathwater and gazing at me while I try and soak. So I will love her extra hard and let her drink all the bathwater she likes while we give the Feliway a little longer to work and I talk to a few cat people I know about potential homes for her!

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