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Adult male cat doesn't like new kittens and won't come home

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WillyWasAWatchdog · 25/07/2020 10:17

I have two adult cats, a female 9 and a male 5, both spade / neutered as kittens. The male is normally so laid back, he used to spend most of the day having cuddles off my daughter and sleeping on her bed. We brought my mom's puppy round to the house a few times and he was absolutely fine with it so we thought he would be accepting of new animals into the home.

So we rehomed two male kittens two weeks ago (approx 14 weeks old now) they are booked in to be neutered next week. Since we got them we've kept them in the lounge where they have their own pen with food, water and litter tray - they play in the lounge in the day and are shut in the pen at night (the door to the lounge is shut at all times). We also have 2 feliway friends plug ins, one in the hallway and one in the lounge. The big cats have the rest of the house to themselves and have food and water in the kitchen where there is also a cat flap with free access to outside.

Since we got the kittens, my female cat has been fine, still in her routine and happily coming and going from the house. The male cat, however, now only comes back for food once or twice a day then disappears, but on a couple of days here and there he hasn't come back at all (although he could have popped back in at night to eat some biscuits without us noticing). He won't stay in the house at all, if we try to stroke him or carry him upstairs to his normal spot he growls and runs back out again. When we stroke him outside though he's quite happy to have some fuss.

When we got the kittens we started trying to mix scents for a few days, then let the big cats in the lounge while the kittens were in the pen with a blanket covering them from view. The big cats came in the lounge, had a sniff then ran out. We were trying to take things all very slow and gradual and this approach has worked for us before.

The issues started when the male cat first saw the kittens face to face through the patio window, they walked towards him (no aggression their side), he watched them and then hissed and then that was it. We haven't started to let the kittens explore the rest of the house yet because of the way the male cat has been acting - I want him to feel the rest of the house is still his so he hopefully feels safe to come home but it obviously isn't working and we can't keep them in the lounge forever.

I'm really not sure what to do. How is the male cat ever going to get used to the kittens if he's never home? Should I just carry on as we are and hope he eventually comes round? I'm worried that one day he won't come back, he didn't even come in yesterday when it was raining. I'm thinking of shutting him in the house for a few days to try to get him used to the house again but my other half thinks that's cruel.

Has anyone been through anything similar or have any advice?

Thanks in advance!

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 25/07/2020 10:39

In my experience cats do eventually come round but it may take some time. One of my old cats (Monty), who was the most laid back cat imaginable, took three months of being very grumpy before he accepted the new arrivals.
When I got the latest two kittens Sybil also took several months to accept them.

Just pay lots of attention to the incumbent cat and he'll come round.

OohKittens · 25/07/2020 10:53

I've been using feliway friends plug ins with my two cats accepting the kitten.

Toilenstripes · 25/07/2020 11:58

It will take him quite a while or he will find himself a new home. It’s possible that he will accept them once they are neutered. Right now they are intact males encroaching on his territory. Please don’t shut him in. He is trying to avoid a confrontation. Let him go at his own pace and see if there’s a difference after the boys are neutered.

HMSSophie · 25/07/2020 12:25

He was laid back before because he was not under threat in his lair. Now he is. They may be adorable kittens to you but they are Tom-cats in the making, to him. The quicker you get them done the better. Is the room you keep them in your main living area? Where he used to hang out? They need to be out of his core space.

HMSSophie · 25/07/2020 12:26

Plus we need photos of the kittens and cats as otherwise you're just making things up !!

WillyWasAWatchdog · 25/07/2020 16:27

Kittens are booked in for the snip on Wednesday, fingers crossed then that it will help. He mainly used to hang out in my daughter's room but won't even stay in there at the moment. Unfortunately I don't have any other room in the house to keep the kittens, only the lounge.

I'm looking into getting him a GPS tracker so at least we know he's nearby or if he doesn't come home we have some way of finding him. If he didn't come back my daughter would be devastated (as would the rest of us).

Thanks Grumpyoldpersonwithcats, hopefully he'll come round soon like yours did.

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WillyWasAWatchdog · 25/07/2020 16:32

Pics of the kits as evidence 😺

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WillyWasAWatchdog · 25/07/2020 18:42

Right, I have just ordered a GPS tracker and he came in for his dinner so I followed him outside the front and spent a good half hour giving him fuss. I then watched him for a while to see where he went, it looks like he's made himself a nice little bed a few doors down in the neighbours bushes in their front garden. I went back about half an hour later and he was fast asleep but then woke up and meowed happy to see me so I fussed him some more and my daughter also came out to see him for a bit. He followed us back to our driveway but wouldn't come any closer and then wondered back off to the bushes.

At least I know where to look for him now and we will have the tracker in case he does go missing for a couple of days again.

Apparently the male hormones can take up to 6 weeks to get out of the kittens' system after the chop so will try to keep up giving the older cat some regular fuss outside for the time being then maybe he'll start coming round, fingers crossed!

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Oldestchild90s · 25/07/2020 20:53

I had this/still have this with my cats. 3 girls and a boy. My boy is the most affectionate out of them all but he growls, hisses and chases my little kitties and this has been going on for a year and i am yet to find a way to stop it, but thats life! They stay out of each others way as much as they can now. It is sad, i don't like the little ones being bullied but i think they have all just got used to each other and get on with it like your cats probably will. But i hope your boy comes home again, i wouldn't like the thought of mine sleeping out and about 😭

They are cuties by the way 😍

WillyWasAWatchdog · 26/07/2020 16:10

Thanks Oldestchild90s I'm just glad the weather is warm at the moment, hopefully by the time it feels cold he'll have gotten used to the idea of kittens. I don't mind if they aren't best friends as long as they can eat and sleep in the same house otherwise I don't know what we'll do 😔

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AwkwardPaws27 · 26/07/2020 16:18

I have our new kitten in a rabbit run in the dining room for part of the day (he has the run of the dining room and kitchen the rest of the time) so our adult cat can come into those rooms without him being able to approach her. She is getting closer now and they have been playing with each end of a bit of string.
If I let him loose he runs over to play with her, which spooks her, so this way she is in control of their interactions (he doesn't care, he just wants to lick her and play with her tail!).

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WillyWasAWatchdog · 26/07/2020 19:06

Aww bless he looks like my adult male (the one that won't come home)! I wish we had a separate dining room but we just have the kitchen and large lounge diner. We do put the kittens in the pen sometimes but most of the time the lounge door is shut. Maybe we need to put them in the pen more often for naps and let the big cats have more access to the lounge 👍

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