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New cat (#3) settling in

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givemushypeasachance · 12/08/2019 11:54

I've just adopted a third cat and we're a week in to the settling in process, just seeking opinions on whether I'm going about it the right way and open to any further tips! Did lots of reading around beforehand but there's a lot of contradictory info out there, this is my first experience of adult cat introductions. Apologies it's a bit of an essay...

Background: I had two rescue boys who are approx six years old and I've had them for five years. Both are inclined to be shy and fearful with other people, but are lovebugs with me. One is pretty bossy and dominant in temperament in the household, the other is more retiring. The quieter one I've seen interacting with neighbour cats in a chill way, the bossy one sometimes chases them out of the garden. Both spend a lot of time outside by choice, they tend to pop in and out several times in the evening for dinner and are shut in overnight.

New cat: is a 3.5 year old rescue boy, he's had a previous family but they got a dog and he really didn't approve so moved himself out and ended up with a rescue. He's a very friendly and sociable little chap, straight away he was eager for attention and stroking and play. His foster mum said he'd previously tried to get an older cat in a neighbouring pen to play with him and she thinks he'll get on well in a house with other cats. We started him off shut in the spare room and resident cats were pretty oblivious, even when he meowed or was jumping around in there. He settled in to that room very quickly so after couple of days started to let him explore the rest of the house while the resident cats were outside. Dualscan cat flap is letting resident cats come and go while he is indoors only for now. He goes back to sleep in his base room by choice if I'm not in the house.

Meeting: the first time resident cats came in and new cat was downstairs, I kept the kitchen door shut and gave them some treats on the other side. Gradually cracked it open a little and continued offering treats. This progressed across a few meetings to the door being opened more, both parties being given treats. They then started being given treats in the same room. While they're actively eating chicken everyone is fine, when distracting food stops and they start scoping each other out it gets a bit more iffy. Across the initial meetings my more chill resident cat was quite bold with him, and was doing a lot of staring and moving in to his personal space. New cat was very excited, wasn't hiding at all - he'd creep right up to observe from the bottom of the stairs or around the side of a chair. He made eager chirping noises. Less chill cat was less enthusiastic and mostly ignored him, gave a few little hisses when he approached. Thought was going pretty okay.

Further meetings: we've had a couple of times where more chill cat has gone upstairs and new cat follows him, and sits across a stair so he can't get back down. Left to own devices, when resident cat tries to creep down the little gap new cat has swiped at him. New cat also once chased up to crowd him at the cat flap, resident cat was hissing and growling in warning but new cat didn't back down till I intervened to shoo him away. Less chill cat has had a few meetings where he's given warning hisses across the room and new cat has pretty much ignored him and still made attempts to sneak up on him. Once he also crowded him at the cat flap and resident cat went into full defensive yowling mode, new cat again wasn't very deterred.

New cat is often chirping while he does his "stalking", his tail isn't puffed up but sometimes he'll have his ears back. The classic is one of the resident cats comes in the cat flap and new cat will leap up and rush to observe from around the side of a chair or another spot a few feet away from the food bowls. He'll stare intently while resident cat eats, then as they turn to walk back to the cat flap he'll rush up behind them. If he's distracted with treats or I lure him into playing with a toy, the other cats pretty much ignore him. They don't respond with puffed up tails or anything and are happy to eat food and be stroked or brushed while in the same room as him. New cat is shut away in the spare room overnight until after the resident cats have breakfast and are let out in the morning.

I feel this isn't too bad for just over a week in. The resident cats aren't thrilled and have had some conflict, but don't seem about to leave home! When they have the place to themselves they behave just the same as before. But I'd like to reduce the angry reactions - which I feel are down to the new cat pushing boundaries, to be expected, but also just finding the other cats far too exciting when they appear. They're fine if he's still and quiet, but creeping up to them while they're eating or rushing up while they're at the cat flap is intimidating so of course they react with fear. This is why I'm trying to distract him with toys so he won't try to stalk and chase them. But longer term they need to be okay to be unsupervised, and I don't want him rushing up to the cat flap whenever they try to come in. Anything else I can be doing to help with this settling in? We've got feliway and feliway friends on, I try to give him lots of playtime with wand toys and all sorts especially in the evening, and give him treats when he's calm and quiet. Open to all tips and thanks for reading!

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givemushypeasachance · 12/08/2019 11:55

Oh and I'd better pay the new cat photo tax. This is the lil' troublemaker.

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Summerunderway · 12/08/2019 11:56

Mm dcats you say??
No pics?
No advice!!
Thems the rules!

givemushypeasachance · 12/08/2019 12:11

I did belatedly pay the photo tax for 1/3 of the cats in question! Grin

This is my other pair - floofy = bossy little whiny sod, less floofy = my sweet-natured chunky baby.

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viccat · 12/08/2019 12:17

I think it sounds ok-ish, there's some establishing of hierarchies going on but no all out fur-flying fighting.

I would try to address the catflap issue though - also because it's a slight escape risk for new cats if he manages to slip out of it when it's open for one of the others. Perhaps a bit more time with new cat not having access to the part of the house where the catflap is?

Sounds like you're doing all the right things though in terms of distracting with something positive (play) and rewarding the behaviour you want to see more of.

givemushypeasachance · 12/08/2019 12:41

Hi viccat yeah believe me I'm pretty paranoid about the cat flap - I know dualscan isn't perfect technology for keeping an indoor cat indoors, and tailgating can occur or tbf a determined cat can just bash through a plastic flap. Currently new cat hasn't had unsupervised access to the kitchen where the cat flap is; basically that's unsupervised potential multi-cat contact and don't feel ready for that yet either.

When I'm home new cat can access the kitchen, but when I'm out either I shut the kitchen door so new cat has the house and resident cats can get to kitchen (with food bowl), or new cat is confined to the spare room. During the summer resident cats almost never stay in the house during the day - they'll sometimes pop in to eat some food but not uncommon to let them out at 6am and not see them again till the evening. So when we had terrible weather I made sure they could get into the full house and one did come in for an hour or so (I have a wifi camera I leave up for feline spying purposes while away that I've been using to monitor things!).

My more scaredy resident cat has always been one for sitting on the doormat having a good long think about going out of the flap; scoping things out in advance. Sensible really to look before you leap. Then he quite often does a little circuit and turns in a circle before climbing through, it's a bit of a neurotic habit I think! He prefers if I'm around to get me to just open the door for him, though he works it fine if I'm not there. So that doesn't help things - I still shut the kitchen door and give him his space to go out the door in his own time when I can.

With escaping ultimately I know once new cat can access the flap then he may get out, but I want to try using a cat tracker collar on him for the early days at least so that helps assuage some cat mum anxiety. Used a retrospective one before but this is pawtrack so it does "live" tracking - tested on one of the others and works okay. So currently getting new cat used to idea of potential collar-wearing as he hasn't been keen so far...

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Toddlerteaplease · 12/08/2019 12:44

I had a similar personality dynamic going on with my two. One very bossy and dominant, the other quieter. When the bossy one died last year. I adopted a very very friendly soppy cuddle chops.
As soon a I put her carrier down, my other car gave her a sniff and I just let them get on with it. Resident cat quickly established that she was boss. And they get on much better than my original pair.

givemushypeasachance · 12/08/2019 13:00

Aww, accepting feline harmony in your house Toddlerteaplease!

I feel with my bossier one tolerance would be fine as something to aim for. Since he defaults to being out and about, he has his own space and really isn't too bothered about anything that doesn't directly impact on him. He comes for fussing and loves a stroke, meows and whines at me to get attention and be brushed. The sun very much revolves around him. He's moderately sociable with the other resident cat and greets him and they'll sometimes saunter off or arrive back home together. But bossy cat will sometimes start scraps when they're shut in at night; I feel out of redirected annoyance mostly. He wants to go outside but he's shut in, so he goes and starts a fight. Other cat never starts it. Again more chill cat is mostly out and about during the day - and sleeps on my bed every night - so he has his own space. But I wouldn't want him to be bullied every time while coming in for food etc. I hope once new cat calms down and finds other cats appearing less thrillingly exciting that'll even out a bit.

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givemushypeasachance · 15/08/2019 11:47

Well we're a few more days along, I think it's day 11 of having New Cat now. Usually we've been having a few multi-cat meetings a day when the resident boys pop in for dinner over the course of the evenings. Many of those have been pretty harmonious - assisted by feeding everyone some chicken, or distracting New Cat with a toy so he doesn't go bothering them. A couple of times he's got hyped up at their arrival and has stalked up to them and been hissed at or swiped at. And once yesterday both resident boys had come in, everyone had chicken only about two feet away from each other and it was all chill but then when I went to do something else New Cat jumped out from a hiding spot at them and one of my resident cats freaked out and ran outside yowling. He came back in fine two minutes later, I'm not even sure if any direct contact was made, but I would like New Cat to knock it off with this overly boisterous/boundaries testing/intimidating behaviour. I don't know for certain if it's intended as play or social aggression? He doesn't seem angry when he's doing it, no puffed up tail or anything, though he gets very intense looking with giant eyes. But he's not taking hissing etc as "back off" messages, or he's just ignoring them.

I try to give him attention and playtime as much as possible to get it out of his system that way, we've got loads of toys I cycle between including lots of different fishing rod sorts and the ribbon/fluffy dancer ones he loves to chase about and catch. Most of the time he's very playful though occasionally he'll be sitting or lying there a bit tail-lashing but seeming 'grumpy' and reluctant to be teased into a game. Ultimately he's going to be allowed outside during the day and I'm sure that'll help give him more stimulation and his own space. He's previously been allowed outdoors and I know from my other two being on temporary House Arrest when injured or ill, they got stir crazy and hated being confined. It's understandable if he's shut away overnight, then allowed into the rest of the house but not outside and these other cats come and go for a couple of minutes at a time then that's his chance to kick off a reaction from them of some kind, even if negative! Still got feliway and the pet calm diffusers on, classic fm on the radio, trying to encourage him to be chill...

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