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Cat pooing on bed

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Decoratingsucks · 29/08/2017 22:22

How do I stop it before my husband insists we rehome?!

I've had two littermates since they were 12 weeks old. They are now 7. We recently had a loft conversion and one of my cats has taken to spraying urine around the perimeter of the new room. She also peed on our brand new bed a couple of times.
I have a feliway plug in in the room and have been spraying feliway spray around.

I'm trying to keep the door shut but my husband is always forgetting and every time I find pee up the wall. The whole room now smells of cat urine deodoriser and it's annoying that the new carpet, bed and walls are being ruined.

As a new addition this week one of the cats has taken to pooing on beds. At first it was mine. I thought it was an accident as it was a small smudge. The next day there were what appeared to be four or five circles of brown stuff. I wasn't sure if it was poo or sick. I've managed to keep the cats out for the past three days but for each of those days one of them has done the same to my young sons bed. What the hell is she doing this for? I can't be certain but think it's one cat doing all of this. I took both to the vet as I thought one of them maybe had diarrhoea hence the pooing outside the litter tray. Both are apparently fine.

It's impossible to keep my sons door shut as it's an old house and the doors don't shut fully. My son is now in my old room but it's the same carpet I had and my sons same furniture - so no new smells really.

Also today my bedroom door was left open and again I come in to urine sprayed up the wall.

This is driving me mad! What can I do to stop it? The only place I can shut the cats away is in the conservatory but they would bake. But I can't change beds everyday and I'm really sick of my house stinking like cat piss. Please help Confused

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Decoratingsucks · 30/08/2017 09:30

Bump anyone?
The fucking cat has just walked into the bedroom while I was in there and sprayed a gallon of piss up the wall and saturated the carpet! It wasn't the nervous cat I thought it was either but the dominant one.

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MsMims · 30/08/2017 12:15

It's a sign of stress. Do you have litter trays indoors?

Decoratingsucks · 30/08/2017 12:58

Yes two litter trays - same as they've always had. They have their own room with their trays, food, beds etc.

I'm more shocked and dismayed because it was my confident cat that did it. Right after she had been laying next to me in bed getting stroked.

I really had blamed it on my other cat who is terrified of her own shadow!

Clearly feliway doesn't work as I've got the plug in plus the spray.

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LivingInMidnight · 30/08/2017 13:04

I feel like I'm always telling this story but feliway made one of mine spray EVERYWHERE. I'd turn it off and see what happens. Also you could try Zylkene to try and calm them down a bit. I use the total control enzyme spray because it smells lovely.

Decoratingsucks · 30/08/2017 13:13

Where do you buy that from? I'm completely desperate at this stage!

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LivingInMidnight · 30/08/2017 13:18

I've bought it from fetch/ocado, amazon and petdrugsonline before. Fetch and amazon both delivered next day. They sell it at pets at home and you can get it at vets too. You just sprinkle it on their food. Works well with my timid cat.

LivingInMidnight · 30/08/2017 13:19

Oh the total control stuff was from viovet last time I think. Vets stock it too, or at least they did when I bought it the first time. Smells like almonds.

MsMims · 30/08/2017 13:22

I'd move the litter trays to where they are marking. The ideal is to block their access completely by keeping the door shut but appreciate this isn't easy.

Clean with biological washing powder or pet urine neutraliser or they'll just keep marking the same place.

You can buy zylkene online or from some vets. The dominant one will be feeling unsettled by all the change and trying to reassure herself with her own scent. It's actually the submissive ones who tend to cover their mess.

Decoratingsucks · 30/08/2017 14:00

Thanks I will try the total control. I've got simple solution but it smells awful.

Not possible to move the litter tray. I don't want it in my bedroom and it's in several different places they or she has urinated - plus the pooing on my sons bed.

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RonSwansonsMoustache · 30/08/2017 15:26

You need more than two litter trays for two cats. The ideal is one per cat plus an extra, ideally in quiet, separate locations throughout the house. We have one in the bathroom, one under the stairs and one tucked away in the hallway.

I would second Feliway but it sounds like stress to me. Ours don't like it when their environment changes a lot and get noticeably panicky and the kitten has peed on the floor in protest a couple of times before!

Your husband needs to get in the habit of shutting the door and I would stop access to rooms where there isn't a litter tray if possible, just until they've settled down. In the meantime, clean the areas they pee/spray and use a neutraliser to stop them rescenting the area.

Fluffycloudland77 · 30/08/2017 17:24

Their stressed because of the building work. I would get a sample of wee & the vet will check for infection.

It's £8 at my practice.

Decoratingsucks · 30/08/2017 22:18

It's just puzzling to me as they never did anything like this when we moved into this house and spent a year renovating it.

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isadorable · 30/08/2017 23:06

A few more questions for you. How old are your cats? Do they go out? Are there other animals in neighbouring area upsetting them too maybe?

I'm sure they are stressed by the building work. You do need more litter trays - at least 3 - regularly cleaned and in different places, NOT near food either. Good luck! It is so difficult to deal with I know.

RonSwansonsMoustache · 31/08/2017 18:17

Lots of random things can set cats off - it's not necessarily rational to us!

Are they neutered?

Decoratingsucks · 31/08/2017 19:40

They are both 7 and neutered. They go out sometimes but I only allow them out during the daytime when we are home.
The building work finished a couple of weeks ago.
Their litter trays aren't next to their food just in the same room. I have a toddler who would be forever in the litter trays so they are in a room the cats can access freely but the kids can't. It's been this way for two years.

Strangely the peeing and pooing is only happening in my room or my sons room not my daughters room.
I have another bedroom that they have t been in yet. It also has a new bed in it. If I put one of the cats favourite cushions on it do you think that will put them off needing to spray it to mark it?!

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RonSwansonsMoustache · 31/08/2017 20:06

Is it just one cat doing it? It would be worth getting them checked by the vet. One off wees in random places can just be accidents or a one-off episode of stress/upset, but when it's regular it's worth making sure they're healthy.

Things like UTI's and diabetes can make them pee in random places, and can cause changes in behaviour as well. If everything is okay health-wise, I would restrict them from the areas they've been marking and make sure they always have access to clean litter trays.

Decoratingsucks · 31/08/2017 20:57

They were both taken to the vet last weekend, as I didn't know which one kept pooing on the beds. I assumed one or both had diarrhoea but the vet said both are fine.

I don't know if it's just one or both cats soiling. I had assumed it was my nervous cat but then my dominant cat did it right in front of me. So I don't really know now.

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RonSwansonsMoustache · 31/08/2017 21:50

The problem is, once they've done it once, they're attracted by the smell and keep going back to the same place!

We had to litter train our kitten as she was a farm cat, and she once had an accident and peed on the carpet. She kept going in the same place until we cut up the bit of carpet and scrubbed the hard floor underneath.

Luckily we were renovating at the time so it wasn't permanent carpet we had to take up but it was still frustrating! She's now 14 months old and has been litter trained for a long while and hasn't had any more accidents.

Have you used a neutraliser on the affected areas?

Decoratingsucks · 31/08/2017 23:36

I've used two different neautralisers! Neither work to do anything except mask the smell as I can still smell cat pee! And the neutralisers smell awful themselves imo!!

Apart the pooing on my bed - happened twice, and my sons bed - three times, the urinating has been in slightly different places each time. Two different places in my sons room but more often around the perimeter of my new bedroom. Always in a slightly different place which is adding to my annoyance!

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RonSwansonsMoustache · 01/09/2017 07:50

That's frustrating! I'm not sure what else to suggest except for Feliway and neutralisers. I know you don't want a litter tray in the room but it could be a temporary solution? If there's a tray in there or at least nearby they might be inclined to use that instead of the bed or the floor.

Decoratingsucks · 01/09/2017 11:01

Fed up is to put it mildly. My 3 year old left his door open earlier and the bloody cat went in and shat all over his bed!

I really have had enough now. Can cats force diarrhoea out on purpose? The poo in the bed is nothing like what she is doing in the litter tray.

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RonSwansonsMoustache · 01/09/2017 12:33

Ah, so it's diarrhoea?

What are you feeding them? One of our cats had AWFUL diarrhoea when we got him (luckily he went in the tray every time) and it turns out he was grain-intolerant, so he can't eat the cheap supermarket brands.

We have to feed him a grain-free, "natural" diet, which is a fair bit more expensive, but it stopped the diarrhoea overnight, and his poos are back to normal now (and much less smelly!)

The fact that it's not "normal" poo would signal a problem - either he's stressed (which can cause runny poo), or he's developed an intolerance somewhere along the line. I think it's recommended you take a sample to the vet if they have it for longer than 24 hours with no improvements.

LivingInMidnight · 01/09/2017 13:18

Ah yes diarrhoea is more worrying. I know the local shelter switch the cats to royal canin gastrointestinal dry food and sensitive pouches when they have diarrhoea. My girl has a very sensitive stomach and they actually suggest bland food like whiskas long term. I tried really hard to find other wet food for her but she prefers it so I'm guessing her stomach feels better with it. She has much better dry food and treats though! (Mostly so I feel happier!)

Decoratingsucks · 01/09/2017 13:29

I've already taken both cats to the vet - nothing wrong with them. There's no diarrhoea. The poo in the litter trays are all normal. It's only when they, or she, poo's on the bed that it's softer. As though it's something she is doing on purpose. I don't know if that's possible!

But I want to reiterate that both cats have been to the vet - no illness, no urine infections.

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RonSwansonsMoustache · 01/09/2017 13:45

Ah okay, it wasn't clear if it was diarrhoea or not.

The fact that they go in the tray but also go other places says it's behavioural to me. Either she's marking her territory for some reason, or something's making her not want to use her tray, so she's going elsewhere and not able to control it properly.

Do both cats get on? There's no intimidating/fighting when they use the trays is there? When we introduced ours and they started sharing trays, the kitten used to bother the older one - whacking him on the head and wanting to play, and he'd refuse to use the tray while she was there - instead he held it in until either she left, or one of us removed her.

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