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22 replies

Cantthinkofanoriginalname1 · 15/08/2017 22:50

While I grew up with all manner of pets from hamsters to horses I havent had a pet since moving away from home 20 years ago!!
My daughter has been nagging for a cat for about 5 years ( she's now 12 ) so we've been thinking about getting one. I have a couple of friends with cats but they seem to look after them completely differently so asking them for advice hasn't been very successful!
Could someone please give me a generalised idea on the various costs, time and upkeep?

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Want2beme · 15/08/2017 23:29

If you get a kitten, he/she could live for as long as 20 years, so, you have to be happy with the fact that you'll be taking care of him/her for that length of time. I spend approximately £20 per week on food for 2 cats. I don't live in the UK, so can't give info re cost of vet care there. I live in a euro country and veterinary costs are lower here. You'll probably want to get pet insurance to cover veterinary care, which I believe can cost £15 p.m. and more? You'll need to buy toys, cat tunnel £10, cat scratch post £10, cat tower £50+, food bowls & mat £20, litter tray £5 or more if you get a covered tray and bag of litter £2'ish from Tesco, or more, monthly flea, worm & tick treatment £10, annual visit to vet £30'ish?, microchip £30, passport, if you're planning to travel with cat £80. These are approx costs and just some of the things I can think of. You'll find yourself buying more things as you go along. If you do decide to get a cat, consider getting an older rescue cat, but rescue centres might have kittens too, depending on the time of year. Good luck.

Allergictoironing · 16/08/2017 06:46

Time & upkeep depends very much on the individual cat/cats, their age & whether they are indoor only or outdoor.

My 2 are bonded to each other and indoors only, and I got them as adults. This makes them lower maintenance than some, as they have each other to socialise with if they want (doesn't stop Girlcat demanding attention of course), no worries about whether they have come in or not, and no generous little "gifts" of bloody remains. On the other hand, I need to make sure I offer them quite a bit of play every day to burn off excess energy and engage their hunting instincts.

Kittens are cute, but with that usually comes wrecked soft furnishings etc & lots of chewing and clawing of people as well (in play of course) for quite a while. Again they are a bit better in pairs as they can pretend to kill each other rather than your feet!

Physical maintenance tends to be pretty simple - they are self-cleaning so no baths needed, just gentle brushing depending on coat type. You don't have to take them on walks, but you do have to clean the litter tray(s) regularly. Vet MoT annually & you can flea/worm them yourself. Be prepared for more time spent vacuuming during the moulting seasons.

If you get a rescue, especially one from a reputable rehoming centre, they should be able to advise on the best way to keep a cat fit, happy & healthy Smile

Cantthinkofanoriginalname1 · 16/08/2017 07:14

Thank you.
Can I just ask why do they need an annual vet visit? If they are in good health otherwise , do they need it?
Also, what are the arguements for inside vs outside? This is where my friends advice differed - one was vehement that cats should go out every night where the other one keeps hers in all the time.
They both kept theirs in cages when young - is this preferable? We never had one with our kitten but that was 20 years ago so not sure if/why a cage is necessary?
Are flea/worm treatments all monthly? Can you not get treatments that last longer?

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KennethCat · 16/08/2017 07:20

They need an annual vet visit for their vaccinations, OP.

dementedpixie · 16/08/2017 07:27

They are supposed to get annual vaccinations hence an annual visit. My cats get access to outside during the day but are kept in overnight as it is safer for them to be inside at that time. I've never used a cage and can't see why it would be useful.

I use flea spot on monthly (advocate) and worming tablet every 3 months (milbemax). I get them from the vet.

dementedpixie · 16/08/2017 07:31

I got my xxl littet tray from petplanet, i get litter in bulk from bitiba or zooplus. My cat tree was from one of them too. I bought beds but they ignore them and sleep wherever they want

Allergictoironing · 16/08/2017 08:00

Mine are indoors only because they are ex-Feral, and the chances are that if they go out they may well go Feral again. Also, I'm paranoid about cars, accidents, poisoning (intentional and accidental), evil cat killers, the enormous ginger & white local Tom that beats up all the cats in the street etc. In many countries like the USA the majority of cats are kept indoor only. You also have cats with conditions like FIV who need to be kept in.

However there is the argument that cats need their outside time as it's much more natural for them, and hunting & killing prey is an integral part of being a cat.

Your friend who puts her cat out all night is waaay behind the times. Cats are actually crepuscular (love that word!) which means they hunt at dawn & dusk NOT particularly overnight. They are more likely to come to harm overnight outdoors, and should never be locked out if avoidable in case of problems.

Being indoor cats, mine only get flea'd & wormed annually as a precaution (unless of course I see anything); I do pet an awful lot of other cats and dogs so I prefer to be safe rather than sorry Grin. They get their annual MoT partly because of the vaccination, and partly because cats are very good at hiding anything that's wrong with them. It's also useful to have knowledgeable eyes on them who don't see them regularly, as people who see a pet frequently may not notice changes as well.

I'm not sure where they got the idea of keeping kittens in cages from, unless they had the kind of household where they couldn't be sure of keeping them in. Kittens should never go out until they have been vaccinated, microchipped & neutered/spayed.

lljkk · 16/08/2017 08:23

I found a cage nice for a few (3-4) days when they were new to the house.
The flea treatment is expensive, sorry, & monthly. It's amazing, though. I grew up in flea-infested households (am allergic, got hives) so the treatments are wonderful. Worth it.

£5 per cat per week I found, for all cat costs excluding medical/medical insurance. We don't have insurance.

Toddlerteaplease · 16/08/2017 08:38

I've got two long haired Persian rescue sisters who are around 7. They cost £28 a month for insurace with Tesco. And about £10 a month for their special breed food. I buy it in 12kg bags. I use expensive litter as it's really good. That's £-5 a bag but lasts about 6 weeks. Apart from
Regular brushing they are absolutely no trouble at all. Mine only go out into my enclosed garden. I work 13 hour shifts and they are happy to be left. They give me far more than I can ever give them. And are wonderful to have around. Do it op, you'll not regret it. Please consider adult cats as well as kittens.

Polter · 16/08/2017 08:50

I would never have a kitten, far too many adult cats in rescue in more need and I'm happy to skip the kitten stage. LastCat was 6 when we got her from rescue and lived to 17, apart from annual vaccinations she only had one emergency trip to the vet after a cruciate injury, currently have PolterCat who we had from rescue when he was 8 and is now 15, he's recently had his first emergency vet trip. I've never had insurance. Cat food costs can vary, probably about £5 a week. Flea and worming a couple of pounds a month spread over the year (I don't de-flea as regularly over winter). A scratching post/pad can cost £10 or so. Toys can be made/improvised if you want to keep costs down. Litter tray and litter can be cheap, and litter can be bought in bulk, my cats have always gone outside so we haven't had this as an ongoing cost.

You can get a flea injection which lasts 6m. Monthly spot on is easy though.

I would never lock a pet cat out at night and have never used a cage. I do confine to one room for a couple of days or more on arrival and after moving house.

You will need a sturdy cat carrier, plastic shell with a metal grill (not plastic) opening.

PolterCat is the first cat I've had (we also had multiple cats growing up) who likes his own bed/basket, most don't!

Cantthinkofanoriginalname1 · 16/08/2017 08:58

Oh my days! This really is a minefield! I'm not sure why they used cages but they definitely did for about 3 months , maybe longer.
The friend who keeps hers in does so because she has v expensive rare breeds but my other friend believes that a cat should be outside at night because it's "natural".
I am considering the pros and cons of a new kitten or a rescue cat.

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Want2beme · 16/08/2017 09:58

The annual vet check isn't just for them to be vaccinated, it's also so that they can have a medical check, the same as us humans are supposed to go to the doc once a year for a check up. Cats are notorious for hiding illness. One of my cats isn't vaccinated, but I still take her to vet once a year, at least. Cats should jot be out at night time, as this is when they are most vulnerable because they a are difficult to see and cam be run over or attacked be attacked.

Having a cat is a big responsibility, but it's not daunting, you just have to accept that you have a furry friend to take care of and finance! They're lovely to have around and you'll be smitten as soon as you get one or two!

dementedpixie · 16/08/2017 10:02

I've never heard of people having to have a annual check! I certainly don't and neither do the kids. I've not had my kittens for a year yet but will take them for their annual jabs when they are due

Cantthinkofanoriginalname1 · 16/08/2017 10:17

I must admit I certainly don't see my doctor once a year !
So what are the injections for? I see one poster says that her cat hasn't been vaccinated , so is that a choice? Or are cat vaccinations as much of contentious matter as children's?

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dementedpixie · 16/08/2017 10:18

Cats aren't awake all night though so woukd have to find somewhere outdoors to sleep.

Polter · 16/08/2017 10:23

Cats are pretty much the easiest pets you can have, and a well-matched adult rescue cat is just about perfect.

Toddlerteaplease · 16/08/2017 10:28

Mine go for a health check every 6 months. But I'm
A helicopter cat parent!

Want2beme · 16/08/2017 10:29

Yes, vets will tell you to take pets once a year for a check up. One of my cats isn't vaccinated annually, as she's mostly in doors and doesn't mix with my mostly outdoors cat - they are kept separately as they don't like each other. However, my cat who goes outdoors is always in at nightime.

Any GP I've beven registered with expects to see their patients once a year, may be not all though.

Fluffycloudland77 · 16/08/2017 10:38

I have mine vaccinated yearly, I still would if he was indoor only.

You can get a three month flea treatment, it's prescription only. You can't scrimp on flea protection. It has to be vet prescribed.

Mines never been caged.

He's in at night so he doesn't get run over.

My cats an active breed, 80% of my housework is cat related. When we go away I'm always amazed that you can leave a house tidy in the morning & it's still clean when you get back.

Allergictoironing · 16/08/2017 11:47

Cats can't really tell you if there's anything wrong, and tend to hide it if there is anything, whereas with people they will say if something isn't right & go to their GP then.

If you ever want to put a cat in a cattery e.g. going away on holiday, moving house, having building work done, then most catteries will only accept them with up to date vaccinations. I think some insurance companies insist on it too.

ragged · 16/08/2017 16:21

There have been some good threads on here with input from vets about how catflu is different from human flu (tougher, more dangerous). Our cats get an annual check free with the jab. Jab is expensive but I think just a bit of insurance since my cats are out all day & meet other cats & kill little creatures.

My cats are curfewed indoors at night but allowed out 6am-8pm (ish).

Worm treatments: last 3-4 months, is what my vet said. You can get some that are monthly spot on neck combined with anti-flea stuff, easier than making them have a tablet.

Toddlerteaplease · 16/08/2017 16:42

Mine are indoor and get vaccinated annually. I'm a bit lax with flea and worn treatment but they get it when I remember.

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