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What do I need to think about before getting a cat - advice please!

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RamblingRosa · 23/04/2011 19:43

We've decided we want to get a kitten/cat. Both DP and I grew up with cats and we're both cat people. DD (3.5yo) is quite keen on cats too and has been saying that she'd really like to have one.

Problem is, we don't know where to begin.

Where should we get one from? What should we look for? Do you have to get two or is it ok to have a lone cat? If you get two should they be siblings and does it make a difference whether their two boys, two girls, or one of each (someone was telling me recently that two girls is the worst possible combination)? How do you suss out a cat's personality before you take it home? How do you know it's not going to be a scratchy aggressive cat that won't get on well with children?

Also, what do I need to budget for food, vets bills, cat litter, etc?

Lots of questions! Please come and tell me your catty stories.

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foxinthewoods · 23/04/2011 20:15

I had two boys from the same litter, never owned a cat in my life before though, but I couldn't imagine having just one of them.

I'd say the first thing to consider is whether you live in a safe place and NOT near a busy road. My two gorgeous boys were both killed and it completely devastated me.

With regard to food, not sure, fed mine on IAMS wet and dry food, used Beauticat cat litter (you could look at Sainsbury's online for current cost). Vet bills not too bad, we had them done at 6 months (boys op simple at not as expensive as girls, plus recovery is much much faster). I had mine from a neighbour, and used to watch them play (there were two litters in the house at the time). Cat 1 was very soft and friendly, little monkey and a hunter, cat 2 was quite timid but when cat 1 died, he became more friendly and was like a son to me (sounds mental I know!).

Our kids were older, but we all had so much from them - we even stopped watching the tv and watched the cats play!

I think pet insurance is well worth having, and it's only about £6 a month for two (or it was, with Petplan).

I would never have just one cat although I did enjoy having one after the other went - they are sooo funny, and keep each other company when you are not there. Best of luck, and don't forget to post pics when you have them. Oh and mine were dark tabbys, not much of a problem with hair but I did have buy a Dyson 'Animal'.

foxinthewoods · 23/04/2011 20:16

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RamblingRosa · 23/04/2011 20:20

Thanks. We live on quite a quiet road (20mph) so - touch wood - that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

I live next door to a "cat lady" and I've wondered about getting a kitten when she's next got a litter but I wonder if it would be weird for the kitten to just move next door. Would it mean that the mother and the siblings would be round our house all the time too! Or the kitten would try to escape back its mum?

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peggotty · 23/04/2011 20:21

If you want to know what sort of personality a cat might have, you'd be better to rescue an adult cat. IME adult male cats can be the most laid back. If a cat seems friendlyand happy to be handled/stroked in a rescue centre, you can be pretty sure they will be confident, happy cats once you get them home too. I don't think you particularly need to get cats in 'pairs' unless you rescue 2 cats that have always been together. Apparently, the most overlooked cats in rescue centres are all black adult cats - IMO all black male cats are the friendliest, lovliest cats ever!!

Definately get your cat insured, and I also use dried food,

whomovedmychocolate · 23/04/2011 20:22

Go to a shelter, they will help you find the right cat for you. If you are inexperienced do not go for a pedigree cat. They are noisy, expensive little blighters who take a lot of looking after IME. Short hair is better if you don't want to have to vacuum every day. Most cats are lovely. We have a bengal. He's lovely but a noisy monster.

whomovedmychocolate · 23/04/2011 20:23

Oh and as for budget, it's about a pound a day with food, litter and vets if you count it all up. You also need a cat carrier (to take it to the vets). If you get one from the Blue Cross you are asked for a donation of £50 to cover all it's costs, but that includes all vax and spaying so is a bit of a bargain really.

Maryz · 23/04/2011 20:41

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tribpot · 23/04/2011 20:44

We were advised with having a ds (5) not to go for a kitten, so took an all-black rescue cat. They do say the all-black and black-and-white cats are hardest to place for some reason. It's worth a chat with Cats Protection League - their cats come with a month's free insurance (plus spaying and microchipping) and then in theory the company follow up to arrange longer term protection. This didn't happen for some reason for us and I now need to take our cat to the vets, uninsured - which is my own fault for not having chased up.

I think you should have a chat with your next door "cat lady" - I don't think you would have a problem with the other cats visiting, they do tend to forget quite quickly.

I understand now that you can feed cats entirely on dry food, I think - wish I'd known that sooner! Certainly no way Harry Potter the cat would accept that now. I'm not sure of exact figures on food and we're about to have our first vets' bill since the end of the Cats Protection treatment, hope it won't be too prohibitive.

I think my ds finds it a little frustrating that Harry Potter is not a lap cat - she will tolerate or even welcome stroking, but only on her own terms and her own location. But that's cats for you, they do what they do. DS has been very patient and gentle, but I'm not sure at 3.5 how he would have got on. Harry will tolerate it until she feels done and then she'll go and hide somewhere where ds can't get to her, if she feels she must.

One major expense we haven't really confronted yet is a cat flap so Harry can come and go as she pleases. Given our back door is two panes of glass, this isn't going to be cheap but I know we need to get on with it, our plan is to put in a micro-chip-activated flap as she absolutely hated having a collar.

Hope that helps - she is a vital part of our household now and we wouldn't be without her. We lost her for 3 days earlier this week and we were completely devastated.

EndangeredSpecies · 23/04/2011 20:48

What you will do when it craps all over your neighbour's radishes, and the neighbour is pregnant and very hormonal.

CharlotteBronteSaurus · 23/04/2011 20:55

i would agree - get an adult rescue cat as you have more of an idea of their personality

i have had one pair of cats, who we rehomed together as they had always lived together, and two singeltons. with my pair, and several others i've known, they seem to tolerate one another more than like one another. my singleton cats have seemed much more contented.

if you live next door to a cat lady, does this mean your garden may possibly already be the territory of one of these cats? if so i would get a female cat, as females are much less territorial and likely to handle this better. unbeknown to us, our garden became the territory of a feral ginger tom, which really upset our male cat, causing spraying problems, even though he was neutered. our female cat couldn't give a monkey's.

i am Shock to hear that all black cats are the hardest to rehome - all black is my favourite flavour!

CharlotteBronteSaurus · 23/04/2011 20:56

oh and get a litter tray, and train them to use it. yes it is a bit gross, but ours only goes in her tray, and this keeps the neighbours onside Wink.

RamblingRosa · 24/04/2011 19:30

Thanks all. Yes, the lady next door has loads of cats and one in particular who's had about 4 litters in the last couple of years. I feel really sorry for the cats. They're always hanging around our house in the hope of some affection and a saucer of milk.

And yes, they've been using some of the flower beds as litter trays Angry so I guess it's marked as their territory.

So male cats are more laid back in general but female cats are less likely to be bothered by all the territorial stuff? Is that right?

I'm not sure I'd want to get a cat from the woman next door because I just think the mother would want to move in with us too!

I've been looking at a few cat rescue websites (RSPCA, Celia Hammond, and Cat Protection League) and there definitely seems to be a thing about black cats being harder to house. I guess it's because lots of people think they're bad luck Hmm. I'd be happy with black. I had a lovely black cat when I was little.

Definitely wouldn't go for pedigree either. I'm still bear the emotional scars of cat sitting a pair of Bengal Tigers about 15 years ago! And my mother's Siamese is enough to put anyone off cats! I'm much more of a short haired moggy type of person.

I would love to get a kitten but I guess there are less of them that need rehoming/rescuing.

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DontCallMeBaby · 24/04/2011 22:38

We got two kittens a year and a half ago, when DD was 5 - it's worked out fine, but I must admit I was shocked at how 'badly' she treated them. Nothing too awful (she threw a cushion at one of them, and slammed a door shut when one of them was 'chasing' her, injuring his poor little paw) but it was a surprise given that she was (is) a reasonably sensible and sensitive child, as was 5 after all, not 2. The saving grace was that the boys had been born into a household with two young boys, so were used to noise and unwelcome attention.

My head says if we ever get another cat or cats we should go for rescue, as the kitten stage is so short, but ... they were INSANELY cute as kittens, and having two was fabulous at that stage as they played together all the time. They're no longer as close as they were, but one in particular will go through the house shouting for his brother if they've not seen each other in a while, and they 'kiss' when they meet up.

Cost-wise, I've just paid £50 for two bags of food which should last about 50 days (a single big bag would be cheaper, but we can't store it). They eat dry food only - came to us on Whiskas, but quickly discovered that one won't touch wet food and the other only sucks the gravy off, so dry food it is (yay, wet food is rank). We have two carriers for joint trips to the vet, if and when they happen, a covered litter tray, two normal beds and a radiator bed that they never use, and a variety of toys! We had to spend a fair bit on getting one boy healthy when they first arrived, the insurance paid for most of the other one's dental op six months ago, and we've had to pay for antibiotics when he got bitten a couple of weeks ago. We paid for their neutering - at our vets at least, boy cats are the cheapest common animal to get neutered, cheaper than girl cats, dogs or bunnies of either sex! They've been in a cattery a couple of times, at £11 a day, but we'll get a cat sitter in future as they really don't like the (lovely) cattery.

FWIW, my friend had a kitten from a litter next door, and her boy ended up going back home to live with his mum! He used to just come and go, and now that she's moved house she's left him with the original family - she does have three kids though, and I think next door was a much calmer environment for the cat.

Also Shock at black and whites being hard to home (I knew about black cats, and don't get that either) - our boys are extremely handsome in their tuxedoes.

PS tribpot I always like to hear about your cat, our cats' mother was called Harry Potter too!

tribpot · 25/04/2011 14:16

Don'tCallMeBaby - amazingly, one of my friends at work has a cat called Harry Potter too! His Harry Potter is at least male Grin

DontCallMeBaby · 25/04/2011 19:29

Oh, how conventional. :o

I wanted to call ours Sirius and Regulus, but their being the sons of Harry Potter was a bit weird, and DH couldn't get past Sirius being the Dog Star ... so they got very silly names instead.

tribpot · 25/04/2011 23:34

I think Sirius and Regulus would have been excellent names, esp the weird Sirius-dog-star connection. I don't know what our Harry's kittens ended up being called, but I know they have gone to good homes. CPL find it harder to home cats so I was very glad to take her, esp as she was already litter trained. But I take your point about kittens; I think if we had taken a kitten instead (or as well) he/she might be more what ds was expecting in terms of a companion instead of someone who allows him to stroke her very gently every now and then at her convenience. But, again, that's cats for you - they do what they do. She is very patient with him and he with her.

pookiecat · 26/04/2011 18:05

Best to get a cat / cats from say Cats Protection [ have a lovely boy from there.] PLEASE PLEASE get good insurance, one of my cats has had so many problems, thank goodness for insurance- reckon she has had over 10/15 k worth of vets treatment !! Oh she is 14 though and still plooding on.

AliceWorld · 26/04/2011 18:11

I have a female black cat and she is the friendliest cat imaginable.

RamblingRosa · 27/04/2011 14:26

Right we went to two animal rescue places this morning. The first had an adorable little kitten. 8 weeks old and all on her own :( I don't know what had happened to the mother but all the siblings had been rehomed and this little one was the only one left. I was quite smitten but she was quite scratchy. Not in a lashing out, hissing and scratching way. She just didn't seem to have worked out how to retract her claws yet so she was using her claws to cling on. She was very friendly but my hands look like I've had an accident with a paper shredder!

She dug her claws into DD a bit and DD got upset and wouldn't stroke her anymore.

Does this mean we can't get her? Will she always be scratchy? Or are all kittens scratchy and then they learn to retract their claws? And would she be miserable being an only kitten with no playmates?

Part of me really wants to just go and rescue her because I feel so sorry for her being all on her own but part of me thinks that she'd be much happier in a house with more cats to play with.

The other cat rescue place said they didn't have any cats suitable for us and to try again another day.

So, do I keep on looking or do I go back and rescue the gorgeous 8 week old orphan kitten?

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Maryz · 27/04/2011 14:58

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RamblingRosa · 27/04/2011 15:11

We weren't specifically looking for a kitten. We just said we were looking for a child-friendly cat at the 2nd cat rescue. I'd be quite happy with a slightly older, more chilled out cat but I now feel really sorry for this poor orphan kitten and want to take it home.

Maybe it's a bad idea though. Poor little mite.

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RamblingRosa · 27/04/2011 15:12

PS. Do you think kittens need someone with them a lot of the time when they're rehomed? I was wondering if she'd get lonely left on her own while we're at work.

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DontCallMeBaby · 28/04/2011 19:46

Surely they'll have no problems homing the orphan kitten? I mean - it's a kitten! It must be scrummy! Albeit scratchy. :) Ours were pretty scratchy when we got them - like Maryz says, they just tend to hang on, plus their claws are like needles at that age so quite a light touch will break the skin. DD was quite scared of our boys when we got them - would sit with a cushion on her lap in case they came to sit on her - but they're much better now.

We had two weeks of the summer holidays left when we got them, so they had a period with me and DD at home a lot of the time. After that, it was an empty house from about 9.15 to 3.15 in the week. They're not exactly lapcats, but they're pretty well domesticated, and they definitely know this is home.

RamblingRosa · 28/04/2011 20:15

I hope someone does home the orphan kitten. She was absolutely gorgeous.

We're going to see some other rescue cats tomorrow. Young cats but not kittens (8mo - 1yr). If we don't fall in love with any of them we might go back to the gorgeous kitten.

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RamblingRosa · 30/04/2011 20:40

We now have a lovely cat :)
We saw lots of cats yesterday at three different foster homes. We were really taken with lots of them but have finally managed to choose and our new cat moved in with us this evening.
She's a beautiful semi-long haired tabby. About 1 year old. Had just been abandoned before she was rescued and taken into a foster home. She's really sweet and confident but not too boisterous around DD.
Thanks for all of your advice. I suspect I'll be hanging around the pets section of MN a lot more now!

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