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could this means Paris hasn't been spayed after all?

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mckenzie · 29/09/2010 20:11

We have two RSPCA cats that have been with us for 3 weeks now, Paris, DSH female and Socks, DSH male. They came to the RSPCA together but their background is unknown.

The RSPCA told me that Socks had definitely been neutered but they weren't sure about whether Socks had been spayed or not and to look out for it. Tonight, Socks has just jumped on to her back as if he was trying to have his wicked way with her, there was some screaming and Paris jumped up as high as possible onto the back of the sofa.

Should I be worried by this behaviour?

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whomovedmychocolate · 29/09/2010 20:12

Umm yes you have a feline rapist. Get ye to the vets!

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mckenzie · 29/09/2010 20:37

thanks whomovedmychocolate.
what am I supposed to be looking for to know she is in season? If that is what they call it

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whomovedmychocolate · 29/09/2010 21:22

Ah I see the male is neutered but still bonking the female. Well that's odd. I would get them both checked out. If she is in season she will try and find other cats and be a bit whiffy.

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 29/09/2010 21:26

If she's in season, there will be much sensual writhing and calling, and every tom cat within 15 miles will appear in your garden. She will find a way to join them, and you and your neighbours will enjoy a cacophanous night.

I don't know why your neutered tom would try to mount her if she's not in season. But a feline penis is barbed, which accounts for her disgruntlement.

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mckenzie · 29/09/2010 21:36

thanks for the replies and thanks for that link. From reading the signs i would say she is NOT in season. The RSPCA told me that Socks had been neutered although is it possible they could be wrong? Or maybe I just misread the action and he was just being boisterous in his play. We think that he is younger than her - he is also quite playful with us whereas Paris just wants to sit on your lap and be stroked.

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 29/09/2010 21:38

Well, if she's not in season and he has no bollox, it wasn't sexual, I think. Have you had cats before? Some of their play can look pretty viscious, and one cat deliberately pissing off another cat in order to gain the best sleeping place is not unknown.

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mckenzie · 29/09/2010 21:43

I've never had two cats before, only one. I'll keep an eye on them. They are both currently climbing over DH's leather reading chairs (DH is at the football). Do you think I should move them?

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 29/09/2010 21:56

Oooh, how deep are the claws digging in?

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whomovedmychocolate · 29/09/2010 22:00

My neutered cat still had urges. I think it depends how old they are when they are done. If they had bonked before they continue to be bonkers IYSWIM.

I still think your cat is probably a rapist. Sorry.

If you catch the male cat looking frisky, flip him over and look for an erect penis. Do you know what you are looking for? [can't believe I am about to explain what a cat's willy looks like emoticon]

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 29/09/2010 22:04

PMSL, my very first cat was, I was assured by the pet shop owner, a female. Some weeks later, while playing with said kitten and tickling the tummy, a small pink protrusion became visible. I said to my the DP, "That looks suspiciously like a penis to me." He (Biology degree-holder) looked, laughed, and told me it was "her" clitoris.

No, it wasn't.

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whomovedmychocolate · 29/09/2010 22:11

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whomovedmychocolate · 29/09/2010 22:11

Sorry wrong link cat penis

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mckenzie · 29/09/2010 22:38

lovely picture - thank you! Socks always lays on his tummy with his legs wide open so it was easy to check and no, he doesn't have a penis. Incidently, if he doesn't have a penis, how does he pee?

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 29/09/2010 22:38

PMSL at the first!

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 29/09/2010 22:39

He will have a penis (but you won't see it unless erect.) It's only the testicles they remove when they castrate toms.

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merlino123 · 30/09/2010 08:58

Just check if he still has testicles! There should just be a little set if them there if he has not been neutered, and you will be able to see them. If he has been neutered there will just be a set of furry covers there with no testicles in!

Male cats often grab their playmate round the neck with their teeth and hold them down, often having a go at humping too! Nothing sexual will happen, it's just a bit of dry humping! They do it for fun or dominance!

If Paris hasn't been spayed, then every couple of weeks she'll be calling out a strange yowly noise and sticking her bottom in the air, and stomping her feet, if you are really worried you can pop her into your vets and they can shave the fur on the flank or midline to check for a scar.

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merlino123 · 30/09/2010 09:03

PS.... I have 2 male cats that constantly hump each other and seem to really enjoy it! Hahaha! Nothing ever actually happens, it's just a bit of humping and growling and pinning down! One of them seems to be worse than the other and sometimes bunches up his bed underneath him and humps that!

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mckenzie · 30/09/2010 09:07

oops. Back to have another look (I thought it was strange that there was nothing there at all. Obviously well hidden)

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merlino123 · 30/09/2010 09:14

Yes penis will be inside and just looks like a dot/small hole from the back, then below it should be some little testicles as a furry flat lump if they are gone and just have the furry covers left, or they will be hard and firm round little marble sized and obviously there.

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whomovedmychocolate · 30/09/2010 20:04

I used to have a rabbit when I was a kid that used to shag the cat. The cat was not impressed in the way that only cats are nonplussed.

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