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How to know when it’s time?

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daffodil78 · 26/03/2025 17:00

We’re in the horrible limbo bit of not knowing if our beautiful girl is just old and grumpy or if it’s ’the end’ grumpy. She’ll be 14 in June and is a Jack Russell x chihuahua (adding to our difficulty knowing as she’s always been on the grumpy side!).

The first half of a walk she is like a little puppy again, or if a squirrel walks along the garden fence, however the majority of the time indoors is either asleep or getting really pissy at anyone and everyone, even if they’re not near her. I do feel like this anger is more than what she used to do; it’s like she’s got no tolerance for anything, especially our other dog who she’s lived with for 10 years. Getting her to eat can sometimes be a battle but other times she needs no prompting/watching and will eat her full meal. No weight loss or recent trauma; did have a leg injury 3 years ago and she will limp if she’s overdone it (ie back end of a walk or even just hopping off the sofa sometimes). Occasionally has accidents in the house (it’s a bit like she’s forgotten she needs to go).

We had her in the vets in January to check her over re the limping, grumpiness and the toilet accidents, and their only comment was that she seemed a bit stiff and she is getting on a bit. Tried her with metacam which didn’t agree with her stomach (but also didn’t seem to improve the hobbling or her mood). She’s back in in a couple of weeks for her annual jabs.

The only other time we’ve had to make a decision was when our other dog was too poorly and we had exhausted everything medically possible so we had no other choice but to say goodbye. I know the saying that it’s better 1 week too early than 1 day too late but I’m really not sure of what to do here; I’m terrified of writing her off far too soon but also don’t want her to be sad/cross all the time.

Any advice is welcomed, thank you x

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KhakiShaker · 26/03/2025 17:10

I was in a similar position and asked the same question. A friend said ‘you’ll know’ and she was right. I knew when the time was right. If you’re unsure then it’s probably not right, particularly if the vets aren’t concerned. The fact she is enjoying walks and eating is a big positive.

RunningJo · 26/03/2025 17:26

I think at 14, with the things you’ve mentioned (limping, grumpy, not always eating, accidents in the house) it may be time to speak to your vet for their opinion

It’s one of the hardest decisions as a pet owner, but also the last act of kindness.
With all of mine we just knew when it was right, that it was the kindest thing to do at their age, a couple of them were poorly, a couple were old with minor changes that made the I uncomfortable and not themselves. If you can spare them potential pain or illness that can come with old age for your dog, I would.

It’s a tough time & I'm sorry you’re going through it 💐

chattyness · 26/03/2025 17:29

Have you tried something else like yumove for her joints, they're very good but a bit pricey for our pocket so we tried the Tesco version instead, much cheaper and they have worked for our dog who hasn't limped since he's been on them. They're only £3.45 for 90 tablets and our dog has two a day so very good value indeed. It maybe painful sore joints making her grumpy & miserable so could well be worth a try for that price, my dog's limp after a walk was always more often in Winter too .I didn't think they would work but had to try them just in case & we have been very pleasantly surprised, we've been using them just over a year now. I just crush them to powder and mix in with his food , so if you try them make sure you put it in something you know she'll eat.

Nessastats · 26/03/2025 17:40

I would try Librela. Sounds like some pain might be going on, maybe arthritis. I had my dog on librela and it gave him another 6 months of pain free life. When the librela stopped working and the pain came back, it was time to say goodbye.

daffodil78 · 26/03/2025 17:59

Thanks @KhakiShaker- I think I’m wavering a bit because there’s a part of me that does think she’s there, I just don’t want to make the wrong decision 😞

@RunningJoso sorry for your losses, I think you’re completely right and have hit the nail on the head - just on the phone to the vets to take her in for a chat (although been on hold for 23 mins so I’m like argh is this a sign we’re doing the wrong thing?!? But I know it’s right) x

@chattynessI’ll get my hubby to go to Tesco after tea, thanks so much!

@NessastatsI’d completely forgotten until your post that she was on a pain trial about a year ago on Librela! Unfortunately it made no difference to her and was just stressing her out going in for the jab so the vets discontinued it as it wasn’t giving her any benefits. So sorry for your loss x

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Abc1weabc1 · 26/03/2025 18:10

Have you tried librella?

SpanielsGalore · 26/03/2025 18:22

This article writen by a vet helped me to make the decision when I was struggling. I hope it helps you too.

Waiting for The Look
Wouldn’t that be great, if pets had a little button that popped up when they were ready to be euthanized? It would eliminate a lot of agonizing on the part of loving pet owners who are struggling with one of the most significant decisions they will have to make in a pet’s life. But that’s rarely how it actually works.
Perhaps you’ve heard people talk about “The Look,” the appearance a pet has when he or she is ready to depart this Earth. “You’ll know it when you see it,” they say, and they are right. It’s hard to describe, that sort of intuitive emotional bond that develops between owner and pet when they are signaling that they are done. I’ve seen it and I agree, it’s hard to miss. It provides a great deal of reassurance to pet owners to know that their pet seems in agreement that it’s time for the next adventure.

The only problem is, this doesn’t always happen.

Pets have other ways of communicating with us beside a meaningful gaze that speaks to our soul; namely, their behavior. Veterinarians experienced in end-of-life care work with very specific quality of life assessments that can give more subjective endpoints than simply “a look,” which can be key when an owner is waiting for a sign that may not come and ignoring all the other cues that a pet is communicating.

The Quality of Life Assessment
Appetite, mobility, hydration, pain, interest in their surroundings, and hygiene are all very specific categories we can assess to determine a pet’s quality of life. Think of it less as a “yes/no” switch that gets flipped and more like a spectrum as a pet approaches death. There’s a large grey zone towards the end where owners could make a good argument for or against it being “time”, and that is the agony and the burden we face as pet owners.
I like the quality of life assessment that uses multiple variables to assess a pet’s condition because all too often, people focus on one specific thing. “Radar hasn’t gotten up for a week,” an owner will say. “He cries all night, soils himself, and pants constantly, but he ate a piece of hot dog yesterday and wagged his tail once, so I don’t think it’s time yet.” In these cases, I counsel owners that we don’t need to wait until every moment of a pet’s waking hours are miserable before making the decision to euthanize.

It’s ok to go out on a bit of a high note. It is one of the blessings of euthanasia, that we can say goodbye in a controlled, peaceful environment and eliminate the pain and stress of a crisis moment at the end.

Death used to be as mysterious for me as it is for most people, but after years working with pets Death and I have become, if not friends, at least very collegial. With that under my belt, the only thing I can tell you with certainty is this: The only way you’ll know that it’s time, truly and without doubt, is when the pet actually stops breathing. Everything else is open to interpretation.
Rarely do people tell me after the fact that they let a pet go too soon. If anything, most feel they waited too long. We have a saying in our field that I repeat on a daily basis to my clients: “It’s better to be a week too early than a minute too late.”

chattyness · 26/03/2025 18:26

OP I tried to add the image for you so you can see what to look for but it hasn't shown up, hopefully this one will .

How to know when it’s time?
hididdlyho · 26/03/2025 20:24

If the vets aren't concerned about quality of life, it may be worth looking at other therapeutic routes alongside medication if you're wanting to exhaust all options. Our greyhound was having hydrotherapy, acupuncture, laser and massage which I'm sure kept him mobile for an extra few years. 14 is a good age though, and I do think a lot of it is personal to each dog and their breed. I think my GSD would want to go before she lost as much mobility as our greyhound did.

BruceLeTerror · 26/03/2025 22:12

I read somewhere (as I HATE HATE HATE the saying “better a day too early”) … don’t wait till their worst day.

Sorry you’re going through this though xx

muddyford · 27/03/2025 06:33

I really hate that phrase too. I would see if your vet can sort a pain reliever that doesn't cause gastric upset, as grumpiness can be made worse by pain. I'm afraid as dogs age they can lose sensitivity to whether they need to 'go'. My old Labrador did, but as he was otherwise perky and assessed as having a good quality of life I accepted the inconvenience.

daffodil78 · 31/03/2025 19:08

Ellie went across the rainbow bridge tonight xx

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BruceLeTerror · 31/03/2025 19:15

Oh @daffodil78I’m so so sorry 🩷

RunningJo · 31/03/2025 19:35

I’m so sorry 😢

hididdlyho · 31/03/2025 22:10

I'm so sorry for your loss Flowers. If it's any comfort, I think even experienced vets sometimes can't predict when the end is coming. My DH rushed our old lad to the vets on Wednesday because his breathing was laboured .The vet who had been seeing him every week for the past year for acupuncture didn't think his situation was that serious, but he passed away an hour later. He'd just decided it was his time to slip away. x

DforDogWoof · 03/04/2025 18:48

KhakiShaker · 26/03/2025 17:10

I was in a similar position and asked the same question. A friend said ‘you’ll know’ and she was right. I knew when the time was right. If you’re unsure then it’s probably not right, particularly if the vets aren’t concerned. The fact she is enjoying walks and eating is a big positive.

100% agree. You will know.

DforDogWoof · 03/04/2025 18:48

Oh I am sorry, I just saw that she has gone to the Bridge. Run free xxx

DoloresDelEriba · 04/04/2025 04:07

daffodil78
so sorry to hear that. Very hard for you. Xxx

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