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Cairndoodle

87 replies

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 04:49

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone has any experience of Cairndoodles they could share?

I’m researching what breeds would be a good fit for our family’s first dog, and they seem to be a good fit for us going off what I’ve read about their usual temperament, exercise requirements, size, and suitability to live with cats and young children.

thanks.

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Snowmanscarf · 11/01/2025 08:40

Cairn or Westie may suit you.

MabelMora · 11/01/2025 08:41

Or a Border Terrier?

Loobylou1984 · 11/01/2025 08:46

A Westie would be perfect for you

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:03

Snowmanscarf · 11/01/2025 08:40

Cairn or Westie may suit you.

I really like the sound of a Cairn. I guess that a puppy has a better chance of getting along with our cats than an older rescue?

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Ophy83 · 11/01/2025 09:04

peplepue · 11/01/2025 07:53

Recommend a miniature schnauzer. Would fit all your requirements.

My aunty has one who is terrible with kids. Very jealous and bites. They are bred to be rat catchers so the instinct is to go for small animals - she terrorised my mum's cat.

Any labs/retrievers are excellent family dogs.

If you want a small dog, have a look at a petit basset griffon vendeen.

Seagullproofoldbag · 11/01/2025 09:04

One of my neighbours has had two Cairns. One lovely, one nasty to other dogs. I've had two Border Terriers. Very nice dogs, but so different from each other, it's impossible to generalise. I'd get a miniature poodle as long as you're prepared to groom it and get it clipped regularly. Brilliant dogs, follow you to the ends of the earth.

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:11

TarnishedMoonstone · 11/01/2025 08:36

Discover Dogs is an excellent way to research breeds as @babasaclover suggests, but it doesn’t happen in London any more. You’d need to go to it at Crufts at the Birmingham NEC in March, as the link informs you, OP.

I did look at this yesterday actually but I’m working unfortunately. Maybe next year if we’re still looking by then!

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ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:12

Seagullproofoldbag · 11/01/2025 09:04

One of my neighbours has had two Cairns. One lovely, one nasty to other dogs. I've had two Border Terriers. Very nice dogs, but so different from each other, it's impossible to generalise. I'd get a miniature poodle as long as you're prepared to groom it and get it clipped regularly. Brilliant dogs, follow you to the ends of the earth.

There are so many conflicting experiences about poodles. And probably all other dogs to be fair!
regular grooming wouldn’t be a problem. I think I need to go and meet some puppies to help decide.

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Bunionbabe · 11/01/2025 09:13

It's obvious that the ideal dog for you would be a miniature poodle. They tick all your boxes and they're a proper breed. As others have said, ignore ads offering hybrid named dogs - no such thing as a cairndoodle.

TwinklyOrca · 11/01/2025 09:20

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 07:50

Thanks. I’ve been going through the various breeds on the kennel club website to try and narrow it down.

We’d like small dog, good with children and cats, one with general exercise requirements of around an hour a day, but could walk for longer. A breed that doesn’t shed much, but one that could enjoy training and activities. A dog that we could take on holidays, can adapt to different situations and generally a dog that loves to be around a family.

I’ve discounted Frenchies due to the general poor breeding and how much they suffer due to various health conditions. Pugs are also out, as are cocker spaniels, cavapoos, cockapoos, and corgis.

I was also considering a Shih tzu.

Shih tzus are absolutely fantastic, I have 5. I always grew up with different breeds of dogs, then I discovered the Shih Tzu, cannot believe I was without one for so long. They’re incredibly intelligent, a few friends of mine have them and they use those talking buttons and bells, one person I know even has a Shih Tzu as a support dog to fetch socks and shoes (she has some additional support needs).
fantastic family dog, adapt easily to situations. Happy to put you in contact with a good breeder I know.

BornSandyDevotional · 11/01/2025 09:20

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:03

I really like the sound of a Cairn. I guess that a puppy has a better chance of getting along with our cats than an older rescue?

Our Cairn was 10 when the cat came along. He was totally fine with that. But he'd had to accept a baby previously! They're are such individuals, there's no one size fits all. Our boy is very good friends with the Border Terrier next door. He's also an old lad. They like a little nuzzle and a lie down together. I do love a scruffy little terrier. Or two!

TwinklyOrca · 11/01/2025 09:21

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:12

There are so many conflicting experiences about poodles. And probably all other dogs to be fair!
regular grooming wouldn’t be a problem. I think I need to go and meet some puppies to help decide.

if you’re a first time dog owner, I wouldn’t advise to go for a poodle. They’re a fantastic breed, but I would say they’re for a more experience owner.

EdithStourton · 11/01/2025 09:22

How a dog is with the cats in the household is due to its upbringing. I've had a farm-bred Jack Russell and three high-drive hunting dogs who have all lived happily with at least one cat

As for temperament, check out the parents. It's no guarantee, but it's a start.

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:25

Bunionbabe · 11/01/2025 09:13

It's obvious that the ideal dog for you would be a miniature poodle. They tick all your boxes and they're a proper breed. As others have said, ignore ads offering hybrid named dogs - no such thing as a cairndoodle.

I wish it was obvious! 😂

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JennyPenny222 · 11/01/2025 09:38

Everyone on mumsnet seem to be very anti doodle.
Everyone in real life that I know with one is very happy.

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:47

JennyPenny222 · 11/01/2025 09:38

Everyone on mumsnet seem to be very anti doodle.
Everyone in real life that I know with one is very happy.

There does seem to be that feeling yes!

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CoubousAndTourmalet · 11/01/2025 09:50

JennyPenny222 · 11/01/2025 09:38

Everyone on mumsnet seem to be very anti doodle.
Everyone in real life that I know with one is very happy.

People with purebred dogs are also very happy with their choice. Mumsnet is also very anti-pedigree and pro-rescue dog. There will always be bias.

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:55

CoubousAndTourmalet · 11/01/2025 09:50

People with purebred dogs are also very happy with their choice. Mumsnet is also very anti-pedigree and pro-rescue dog. There will always be bias.

Absolutely.

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CoubousAndTourmalet · 11/01/2025 09:57

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 09:47

There does seem to be that feeling yes!

A lot of that is down to backyard breeders/puppy farms and people following trends for crossbreeds and getting a puppy without doing enough research.

Mumsnet dog threads are always a battle ground with a three way split: designer cross v purebred v rescue dog, most people have strong feelings one way or another.

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 10:07

CoubousAndTourmalet · 11/01/2025 09:57

A lot of that is down to backyard breeders/puppy farms and people following trends for crossbreeds and getting a puppy without doing enough research.

Mumsnet dog threads are always a battle ground with a three way split: designer cross v purebred v rescue dog, most people have strong feelings one way or another.

Fair enough. I do value people’s opinions though so I am glad I posted.

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CoubousAndTourmalet · 11/01/2025 10:11

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 10:07

Fair enough. I do value people’s opinions though so I am glad I posted.

Good luck in finding your perfect dog, whatever the choice. When you get it right, it is blissful x

Cockerpooslave · 11/01/2025 10:30

As you can see from the username I have a cockerpoo. I know lots of people slate them,I got mine for a range of reasons and have actually lucked out but we have worked really hard on training and I did a lot of research and made sure both her sire and dam were fully health tested and from good lines.

She has her challenges, she is too clever for her own good and if you don’t satisfy her needs she can be difficult, but she is very loving and our life works well & I wouldn’t be without her.

I have known cairns & that cross has the potential to be very difficult, as PPs have said cairns are very stubborn dogs ( they are terriers) and with a poodle intelligence you have the potential to end sup with a very challenging dog.

i would second a mini poodle (not toy), mini schnauzer are lovely dogs ( but very barky). But worth thinking about whether you’re really looking for a toy/house dog or something more rough and tumble. I think based on your life it’s probably the former. Also think about grooming needs, it costs about £50 every 6/8 weeks for mine to be groomed and she really needs brushing every day, it’s not for the faint hearted. Also think about whether you will need to leave the dog alone and for how long as many toy/companion breeds suffer from separation anxiety (& any dog needs building up to being left alone).

Finally bear in mind many small dogs are terriers, which are by nations stubborn, tenacious, confident and independent- they had to be to survive the jobs they were bred for, so are not going to be chill, quiet, easygoing etc, so you need to think carefully about what will fit with your family and the personality of your kids.

The kennel club breed finder allows you to refine by characteristic so might be a good place to start.

Good luck though, it’s incredibly rewarding.

notnorman · 11/01/2025 11:17

We had a cairn who got so excited about going on his walk he would yodel all the way round.

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 11/01/2025 11:28

Just get a can, if you can find one, a cairndoodle just sounds like madness. I've had cairns all my life, the best dogs ever.

GloriaMonday · 11/01/2025 11:56

ladyworm · 11/01/2025 07:02

Thanks everyone for your advice.
Never had a dog before, so all this is new.

Oh lordy. You are a novice looking at a cute 'hypoallergenic' puppy.
Get a poodle, Staffordshire Bull Terrier or a Jack Russell Terrier. Get a neutered bitch. Of the 3, I'd get the JRT, for many reasons, but the Staffy is the best for families.

They're not dogs but cats make great pets.

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