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HangingOver · 09/01/2025 13:20

Hello my fabulous Podsquad, here is Podcast Thread III.

For anyone that is new to this thread, it's about my rescue dog, known as Pod.

Here is thread No. 2 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_doghouse/5197068-the-pod-cast?page=39&reply=141216881

And thread No 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_doghouse/5177112-oh-my-giddy-god?page=1

for if anyone would like to go back and see how astonishingly naïve and traumatised I was by taking on a fully grown, teenaged pointy dog who seemed determined to destroy me and everything I love.

Theatrics over, here is the Pod in question (obviously I've edited the lead out - I'm not mental).

If anyone doesn't have is Insta handle and wants it, just DM me. A video of me and Pod doing yoga together will appear at some point soon.

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WiddlinDiddlin · 21/02/2025 22:03

Oh what a snoot! Give it a gentle boop from me!

OldSpeclkledHen · 22/02/2025 09:20

Boops

HangingOver · 22/02/2025 13:57

DPs phone takes brilliant photos!

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LadyGrillingSole · 22/02/2025 14:23

He's a stunning hound, Hanging 😍

RumNotRun · 22/02/2025 14:47

He is gorgeous and I am jealous of your DH's phone. Mine takes bloody rubbish photos.

eggandonion · 22/02/2025 16:54

He is a supermodel!

rainbowruthie · 23/02/2025 11:47

He really is such a handsome boy

HangingOver · 24/02/2025 07:49

Red letter day yesterday.

Due to a diary clash me and DP both had very important things that cost money yesterday. We got in this ridiculous doom loop where I said I wouldn't do my thing to stay home with Pod and DP then said no no I'll do it. But I knew his thing is really really important to him so as my thing was much nearer I secretly planned to keep a close eye on Pod and return if needed. He'd been for a really long walk the day before and in the morning and the weather was vile so I knew there was a good chance he'd sleep as long as he didn't get upset at me leaving, so off I went, hands shaking a bit and camera on. He slept for the whole two hours and didn't even get up when I got home. Did one woof from the sofa but barely opened his eyes 🤣 What a breakthrough!

This week he has his first day of doggy daycare. We've got a solicitor appointment and the arborist is coming so Pod would just scream at the chainsaw all day. Hope he has a nice time.

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sallydoodlecat · 24/02/2025 07:53

Love reading your updates. Go Pod! That's amazing!

Twiglets1 · 24/02/2025 08:03

That’s brilliant @HangingOver it seems that Pod is less anxious about you both going out than you are! He is completely relaxed about it.

Ellmau · 24/02/2025 08:03

Oh, he's being such a Good Boy!

HangingOver · 24/02/2025 19:28

Derp.

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MaxandMoritz · 24/02/2025 19:48

Hounds are so goofy!

WiddlinDiddlin · 24/02/2025 19:54

Derpface Podboi clearly feels very secure and safe at home... you did that. You made him feel like that!!! :D All that time and patience and getting battered by him and not turning him into a trendy rug... :)

OldSpeclkledHen · 24/02/2025 20:43

What she (Widdling) said 👍

@WiddlinDiddlin what was the calmer you said was the nuts please? 🙏

HangingOver · 24/02/2025 20:57

Twiglets1 · 24/02/2025 08:03

That’s brilliant @HangingOver it seems that Pod is less anxious about you both going out than you are! He is completely relaxed about it.

I know.... I'm starting to think this is me problem!!

It's just because one time I left and he shouted and cried for twenty minutes and my heart broke. I think it's about picking your moments though... Only doing it to start with when he's fed and has had a run...not overexcited or bored... Then gradually as Widdlin says his bank of good experiences will build up and I guess eventually he might even take us going out as a cue to sleep?

It's just me and Pod for two nights, so he's had a bonus sniffy walk and lots of games to make up for DP being away and he's curled up next to me like a tiny prawn. I love him MADLY.

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HangingOver · 24/02/2025 21:04

OldSpeclkledHen · 24/02/2025 20:43

What she (Widdling) said 👍

@WiddlinDiddlin what was the calmer you said was the nuts please? 🙏

It's the Nutracalm sprinkle tablets, they are super!

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Twiglets1 · 24/02/2025 21:04

HangingOver · 24/02/2025 20:57

I know.... I'm starting to think this is me problem!!

It's just because one time I left and he shouted and cried for twenty minutes and my heart broke. I think it's about picking your moments though... Only doing it to start with when he's fed and has had a run...not overexcited or bored... Then gradually as Widdlin says his bank of good experiences will build up and I guess eventually he might even take us going out as a cue to sleep?

It's just me and Pod for two nights, so he's had a bonus sniffy walk and lots of games to make up for DP being away and he's curled up next to me like a tiny prawn. I love him MADLY.

Aw you’re a proper team now.

I always give my dog a run too before leaving him too so he’s nice & tired. I think he knows the routine now as I go out most days after his morning walk but he knows I won’t be gone too long.

HangingOver · 24/02/2025 21:05

He just got up to go find a chewy to bring me, and then got back to his prawning. Does that mean we're best friends 🥹

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DancingFerret · 24/02/2025 22:24

HangingOver · 24/02/2025 21:05

He just got up to go find a chewy to bring me, and then got back to his prawning. Does that mean we're best friends 🥹

Chewy presents from the dog are right up there with freshly caught mouse presents from the cat. You're on a winner.

WiddlinDiddlin · 25/02/2025 03:40

Yes - its all about habituation - boring dog trainer nerd thing coming

We can't actually actively train in the way most people understand training, ie operant conditioning - 'you do x = you get a treat', for anxiety related stuff, because we're seeking to alter the underlying emotion.. and because we'd be building anticipation of the reinforcer... which slips into frustration bloody quickly.

Most Seperation anxiety sufferers are also suffering from frustration, so adding more by trying to use food or toy reinforcers just makes that worse.

So we're left with desensitization and habituation to build myriad positive experiences, below the dogs threshold for stress/anxiety, and doing that effectively means picking your moments very carefully when your dog is not anticipating/expecting something fun (typically walk, training, play or food).

It also means starting when they are already calm and thats where many go wrong, trying to start an absence immediately after taking the dog for a high octane knackering walk, thinking 'dog will be fulfilled and want to sleep'... And not realising that the stress hormones produced by such a walk (unless it involves a loooooooong slowwwwwwww sniffy walk home, which it typically doesn't) are still going UP for around half an hour after the experience ended... ie, after they get home.

So they head out and the dog is still high on adrenaline and cortisol and has no where for that to go and no one to guide them... and it tends to be a disaster ridden experience, but they think the dog can't have been tired enough so they do MORE next time... and on and on it goes!

So its a fine balance to find, with a lot of factors to consider!

And yes, when we get it right, eventually the visual cues (shit you do to get ready) of your absence routine become the trigger for 'and now lets settle down and have a kip' from your dog!

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 25/02/2025 07:15

Well done! Separation anxiety seems notoriously hard to crack so that's amazing news 👏 👏

MaxandMoritz · 25/02/2025 08:28

When you look back to Pod's arrival not many months ago the progress is wonderful to see.

The bond you have with a dog who's had a difficult start is very special. You and Pod deserve all the happiness that's coming your way over hopefully many years.

And many thanks to Widdlin for these posts which are helpful to all of us.

HangingOver · 25/02/2025 09:28

WiddlinDiddlin · 25/02/2025 03:40

Yes - its all about habituation - boring dog trainer nerd thing coming

We can't actually actively train in the way most people understand training, ie operant conditioning - 'you do x = you get a treat', for anxiety related stuff, because we're seeking to alter the underlying emotion.. and because we'd be building anticipation of the reinforcer... which slips into frustration bloody quickly.

Most Seperation anxiety sufferers are also suffering from frustration, so adding more by trying to use food or toy reinforcers just makes that worse.

So we're left with desensitization and habituation to build myriad positive experiences, below the dogs threshold for stress/anxiety, and doing that effectively means picking your moments very carefully when your dog is not anticipating/expecting something fun (typically walk, training, play or food).

It also means starting when they are already calm and thats where many go wrong, trying to start an absence immediately after taking the dog for a high octane knackering walk, thinking 'dog will be fulfilled and want to sleep'... And not realising that the stress hormones produced by such a walk (unless it involves a loooooooong slowwwwwwww sniffy walk home, which it typically doesn't) are still going UP for around half an hour after the experience ended... ie, after they get home.

So they head out and the dog is still high on adrenaline and cortisol and has no where for that to go and no one to guide them... and it tends to be a disaster ridden experience, but they think the dog can't have been tired enough so they do MORE next time... and on and on it goes!

So its a fine balance to find, with a lot of factors to consider!

And yes, when we get it right, eventually the visual cues (shit you do to get ready) of your absence routine become the trigger for 'and now lets settle down and have a kip' from your dog!

Yes this is fantastic advice. I've got ballet tonight at 6 and DP is away so I'm putting in a bonus walk and aiming to have him settled and fed an hour before I need to leave...

Something shitty happened this morning and I need you to tell me if its a bad as I think it is 😔

I took Pod to our special place on the beach which is cut off by the tide with his ball. No one else there, beautiful morning. Slithered down the rocks and played for a bit then, god rot him, he did the thing I hoped he would never do - pissed off back up the rocks. I shouted called him and he came back after maybe 15 - 20 seconds (felt a lot longer, it was like I could see him deciding whether to run away or not) then but then a retriever off-lead appeared and had a look at the beach and then Pod was OFF. Charged off after the dog along the headland and I couldn't even see him because I was lower down. So I had to do speed climbing up slippery rocks in walking boots, swearing, and Pod came racing back looking delighted after about 30 seconds, and allowed himself to be leashed. I saw the owner of the retriever up ahead and said I'm so sorry, my dog was charging around after yours, and he just smiled calmly and said "Oh I wondered why he didn't come back!" and we chatted for a bit, so it was okay.

Come to think of it, there's a bit of epidemic of shitty recall down here but no one seems as anxious about it as I am? Pod gets charged up to by another dog at least once a day. Even today, as we were getting back to the carpark, a man's spaniel pissed off to go and snog a nearby cockapoo. Two days ago, me and Pod were at the same spot on the beach, and I saw a woman having a swim with her dog off lead. I kept Pod on his lead thinking I could maybe wait til they'd gone and her lab charged over to Pod to say hello, she yelled after him but he didn't listen. And because poor Pod was overexcited and on lead he got tangled and hurt himself - he's got a big red mark where he got caught up.

I'm a bit heartbroken because this means I can't take him there to play ball any more. It's good that he came back both times but I just don't have enough control over him yet. It's a shame because he adores running on the beach.

He comes back immediately in low distraction environments but in high distraction environments he only comes back AFTER he's done the thing he wants to do (e.g saying hello to a dog) - which is no good. I guess I'll just have to keep practicing in the secure fields when he's with his friends. Poor Pod, I think maybe I've been a bit unrealistic in my expectations that he wouldn't want to do a bit of climbing practice on the rocks. Also he's been a bit of a twit since DP went away so perhaps should have anticipated shenanigans!

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HangingOver · 25/02/2025 09:43

Sorry just for clarification that should have said "I need everyone to tell me if it's a bad as I think it is" - I wasn't ordering you specifically to give me advice @WiddlinDiddlin haha that would be extremely entitled. I feel like you should be sending me invoices as it is!

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