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78 replies

ljs1612 · 13/12/2024 16:02

Hi, has anyone had any experience with selling on pets4homes?
We recently bred our dog (responsibly before I get jumped on) and are selling the pups on there but it is absolutely full of time wasters, people just messaging wanting a chat I think. I don't understand why you would message unless looking to buy lol

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ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 08:53

@biscuitsandbooks and I suppose you've just assumed I can't provide any of this?

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Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 14/12/2024 08:55

biscuitsandbooks · 14/12/2024 08:45

Lots of serious buyers will want proof of things like hip and elbow scores, eye testing and other genetic tests. They also won't be particularly interested in a breeder who still has puppies at 11 weeks.

They’ll also want proof of lineage.

Sounds so far like OP has done the bare minimum - which means either an unethically bred mongrel or a non recognised breed

Given the defensiveness, I’m going to go with unethically bred mongrel.

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 08:59

@Killingoffmyflowersonebyone I hope you have a lovely day and loose some of your bitterness along the way.

Merry Christmas and thank you for your very helpful replies 😘

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Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 14/12/2024 09:00

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 08:59

@Killingoffmyflowersonebyone I hope you have a lovely day and loose some of your bitterness along the way.

Merry Christmas and thank you for your very helpful replies 😘

You asked why you’re not getting serious buyers - I gave an answer. It’s because you’re not a serious, professional, capable breeder.

It’s not my fault if you don’t like the answers

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 09:05

@Killingoffmyflowersonebyone and know that about me from my post?

You have made assumptions and given really unhelpful advice. You have no idea of what documents I have or what breed my dogs are but again have made assumptions. Not that I have to justify myself to you but I have all of the documents, also have all the proof of the scans she had while was carrying the puppies because I'm not just someone who just wanted money and just breeds to make that money.

But like I have said thank you for your replies now please just get on with your day.

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ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 09:12

The point of my post was to ask if anyone has experienced the same not to discuss what type of person you think I am.

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SoMentallyDrained · 14/12/2024 09:12

What breed are they OP?

Lougle · 14/12/2024 09:31

Some ads go on and on about the pedigree and testing of the site, but then skirt over the 'lovely dam' who has no or minimal health testing.

rottweilersrock · 14/12/2024 09:39

Being checked by a vet is not the same as having breed specific health tests!
The fact you haven’t mentioned the breed, or answered questions about hip/elbow scores etc, makes me think that you have a crossbreed or non kc registered dog, and haven’t done any of these things.
Having 10 pups suggests that you have a large breed, in which case hip/elbow scoring is vital.
Ethical breeders do not generally need to advertise as they have waiting lists, and if they do advertise it would not be on the likes of pets 4 homes!

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 09:42

I'm not answering these questions because it completely irrelevant to my post?! I was asking if people had had a similar experience with a particular site I wasn't asking for people opinions on anything else.
I don't need to provide you with any information you are not buying one of the puppies. You have taken it upon yourself to make all sorts of assumptions about me and my breeding capability I do not need to justify myself when all I was wanting to know if what Is in my post

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BoobyDazzler · 14/12/2024 09:47

I’d rather buy a home bred puppy from
a family home over a ‘breeder’ any day of the week but the older they get the harder they’ll be to sell. As bad as it sounds I’d discount an 11 week old pup if there were 8 week old pups available that fulfilled my criteria because I’d rather do the most important socialisation weeks myself - not trust that the person who had bred them had done a good job. 8-14 weeks are vital.

You might have to reduce the price.

biscuitsandbooks · 14/12/2024 09:50

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 08:53

@biscuitsandbooks and I suppose you've just assumed I can't provide any of this?

You're the one asking why there are so many time wasters Confused

My answer is that serious buyers won't be interested in buying from a breeder who still has leftover puppies at 11 weeks of age - and will want to know that sire and dam both have all the relevant health tests for their breed, which should be included in the advert.

I had my name down for my puppy before he was even born and had seen all the proof of genetic testing too. A deposit was paid at four weeks too. A breeder with puppies leftover at 11 weeks would be a huge red flag for me and for many other people too 🤷‍♀️

Why ask if you're just going to shoot everyone down?

Lougle · 14/12/2024 09:50

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 09:42

I'm not answering these questions because it completely irrelevant to my post?! I was asking if people had had a similar experience with a particular site I wasn't asking for people opinions on anything else.
I don't need to provide you with any information you are not buying one of the puppies. You have taken it upon yourself to make all sorts of assumptions about me and my breeding capability I do not need to justify myself when all I was wanting to know if what Is in my post

Well then to answer your question, I think that until you talk to people, you don't get a feel for them. I'm interested in the health testing and genetics of the dog, followed by the way the dog has been reared, fillowed by the sort of person the breeder is (although the type of person they are often dictates the way the puppies are bred).

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 09:53

@BoobyDazzler yea we have discussed about reducing the price, as we haven't done it for the money and that side of it doesn't bother me. It just makes me think will we attract the wrong person if they are too cheap, if that makes sense.

We've done so much with them. They haven't just been left in a pen til they sell they are really now part of the family too. All know where to go to the toilet and have been doing this for a while now.

The pups are viewable with mum and dad and the environment they have been in. I suppose it's just a case of right person right time now. Or we will have 5 dogs instead of 2 😂

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ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 09:55

@Lougle I have got all of this information for people interested. I'm just not liking the judgement when people have no idea about the situation only that I have listed them on a site they personally don't like

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ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 09:59

@biscuitsandbooks yes we had deposits for the puppies before they was here as well, out of the three that are left two of them had a deposit but they have since gone ghost with no explanation.
I'm really not shooting people down I'm defending myself against judgement and have answered the helpful replies just not the ones that think they know what type of person I am.

I have said I probably wouldn't go to a breeder with puppies left at 11 weeks either but if I don't advertise they won't go.

Thank you

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ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 10:01

It was just a case of wanting to know if anyone had any positive feedback from pets 4 homes that's all. If there wasn't any then I would have removed my post if all I'm going to get is time wasters that is literally all I was asking advice on.

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biscuitsandbooks · 14/12/2024 10:41

@ljs1612 did you always advertise on Pets at Homes or did you try at the local vets etc?

burntheleaves · 14/12/2024 10:42

bugalugs45 · 13/12/2024 16:43

I bought my first pup on a similar site , but didn't have a great experience, terrible breeder who only saw £ signs .
My next dog I found on kennel club website , totally different experience .
Having learnt much more over the years , I now know reputable breeders have waiting lists and I would definitely go down that route in future .
You run the risk of ending up with keeping all the pups if you can't find suitable homes ( as you should in my opinion ) , better that than they don't get 5* homes.

Why would people going through KC websites be any more 5* than people going through any website though.

I've always bought through reputable breeders with waitlists etc but in all honesty, none of them have come checked my house or done anything other than ask a few questions which I could easily have lied to.

burntheleaves · 14/12/2024 10:47

rottweilersrock · 14/12/2024 09:39

Being checked by a vet is not the same as having breed specific health tests!
The fact you haven’t mentioned the breed, or answered questions about hip/elbow scores etc, makes me think that you have a crossbreed or non kc registered dog, and haven’t done any of these things.
Having 10 pups suggests that you have a large breed, in which case hip/elbow scoring is vital.
Ethical breeders do not generally need to advertise as they have waiting lists, and if they do advertise it would not be on the likes of pets 4 homes!

Professional breeders have wait lists. The OP is a single time breeder so they wouldn't necessarily have a waitlist and that doesn't mean the dogs are poor quality.

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 10:57

@biscuitsandbooks no, so I've never actually used it. I just thought we would give it a go as we don't seem to being getting anywhere. It was the one that came out on top when looking at places to sell the puppies (I know that doesn't sound great)

We know a lady that breeds and sells through kennel club and she put the word around and most of them sold through word of mouth before they were even born. My husband also knew of people that was after the particular breed. So they actually haven't been advertised until now.

I wasn't aware people had such low opinions of the site and the people that sell on there.

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ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 10:58

@burntheleaves thank you ☺️

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rottweilersrock · 14/12/2024 12:07

@burntheleaves
I didn’t say the puppies were of bad quality. And just because someone only has one litter doesn’t mean they can’t do it ethically.
Without doing breed specific health tests how does anyone know that the parents are not carriers for particular conditions?
For example, one of my dogs is a carrier for a condition that can cause an early death to an affected puppy. If I didn’t know that, and bred her to a dog who was also an untested carrier, I could be producing puppies that would have a serious problem. How is that ever right?
This is why people who are passionate about their breed and care about the health of the dogs, are always trying to educate people on the benefits of proper dna health testing.

ljs1612 · 14/12/2024 12:09

@rottweilersrock I understand that but people have just assumed I haven't had any of these tests done before making the decision to breed her and that is based on the fact I have mentioned pets 4 homes. How is that right

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rottweilersrock · 14/12/2024 13:10

@ljs1612
You are right, I have assumed!
I just think that if someone has done all the health tests and hip/elbow scoring, that they would be more than happy to share those results. Nothing to do with advertising on pets 4 homes, I just believe that most people would say what breed they had and what testing has been done. I know I would!
Its also useful for people reading posts in the future to see what needs to be done for different breeds.