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If you're worried about your pet's health, please speak to a vet or qualified professional.

What do you wish people knew about dogs before getting one?

128 replies

JamSandle · 12/08/2024 21:30

Mine would probably be...they need a lot more love and exercise than most people can realistically give.

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bakewellbride · 14/08/2024 15:52

We are getting our first dog soon. This thread has given me lots to think about!

lorisparkle · 14/08/2024 15:59

I wish I had joined the Facebook group 'Dog Training Advice and Support' prior to having a dog and had read the most relevant guides before he came to our house

That the puppy blues are real!

That a puppy is, in many ways, harder work than a new born.

lovemycbf · 14/08/2024 16:06

bakewellbride · 14/08/2024 15:52

We are getting our first dog soon. This thread has given me lots to think about!

Get the best insurance you can afford I had petplan covered for life and thank goodness I did I had a dog with a lifelong condition and they paid her bills for 13 years at £200 plus a month
And once you have that policy don't ever change as anything you've seen the vet for gets classed as pre-existing condition and they won't pay

Sunflowers098 · 15/08/2024 23:12

That puppies should be only be bought from good breeders who have done extensive health scoring.
That Puppies are extremely hard work, teenage dogs even harder.
Don't get a dog if you work full time and leave it all day - and then wonder why it's chewing up the house.
Also you can't get a puppy and take 2 weeks off work and then disappear back leaving the poor thing alone.
That no one should ever buy a Bulldog, french bulldog, pug, or any other dog that's been so inbred to have no muzzle and therefore can't breathe properly - I genuinely cannot understand why anyone would do this.... ditto Cavalier spaniel with a brain too big for its head and any dog with its eyes bulging out of its head, a dog bred to be so long and low to the ground that its spine is not fit for purpose. Saw one the other day and its boy bits were literally dragging on the ground poor thing. Why would you want a dog with basically no legs??
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this last paragraph but there you are...

JudyJudeplusOne · 16/08/2024 00:17

TheBizzies · 13/08/2024 10:54

It's a whole adult persons life in the space of up to 15 or so years. Baby, toddler, teenager, adult, retired, elderly, frail, gone. 😢

This! In a nutshell.

eotchs · 16/08/2024 02:03

Sunflowers098 · 15/08/2024 23:12

That puppies should be only be bought from good breeders who have done extensive health scoring.
That Puppies are extremely hard work, teenage dogs even harder.
Don't get a dog if you work full time and leave it all day - and then wonder why it's chewing up the house.
Also you can't get a puppy and take 2 weeks off work and then disappear back leaving the poor thing alone.
That no one should ever buy a Bulldog, french bulldog, pug, or any other dog that's been so inbred to have no muzzle and therefore can't breathe properly - I genuinely cannot understand why anyone would do this.... ditto Cavalier spaniel with a brain too big for its head and any dog with its eyes bulging out of its head, a dog bred to be so long and low to the ground that its spine is not fit for purpose. Saw one the other day and its boy bits were literally dragging on the ground poor thing. Why would you want a dog with basically no legs??
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this last paragraph but there you are...

Personally think buying any dog is immoral.

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 16/08/2024 05:57

eotchs · 16/08/2024 02:03

Personally think buying any dog is immoral.

then why are you on this thread? Even if you go to a rescue centre you have to ‘buy’ the dog.

Doghouse is a bit of a weird place to hangout if you’re that against dog ownership.

Pyreneansylvie · 16/08/2024 06:42

eotchs · 16/08/2024 02:03

Personally think buying any dog is immoral.

Personally feel no guilt about buying a puppy.

Please explain your reasons for saying this...

Eyesopenwideawake · 16/08/2024 06:44

They break your heart when they leave you 😥

eotchs · 16/08/2024 07:33

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 16/08/2024 05:57

then why are you on this thread? Even if you go to a rescue centre you have to ‘buy’ the dog.

Doghouse is a bit of a weird place to hangout if you’re that against dog ownership.

Edited

Not really, I have a dog?! Not a dig at anyone – I know lots of nice, well meaning people do buy dogs to order. That’s just how I feel about the idea.

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 16/08/2024 08:05

My advice would be that dogs are often very poor companions for children, especially ND children. Despite what the romanticised stories will say.

In 2024 there is no excuse to be buying from a BYB or puppy farm.

Timetothink54321 · 16/08/2024 09:41

Sunflowers098 · 15/08/2024 23:12

That puppies should be only be bought from good breeders who have done extensive health scoring.
That Puppies are extremely hard work, teenage dogs even harder.
Don't get a dog if you work full time and leave it all day - and then wonder why it's chewing up the house.
Also you can't get a puppy and take 2 weeks off work and then disappear back leaving the poor thing alone.
That no one should ever buy a Bulldog, french bulldog, pug, or any other dog that's been so inbred to have no muzzle and therefore can't breathe properly - I genuinely cannot understand why anyone would do this.... ditto Cavalier spaniel with a brain too big for its head and any dog with its eyes bulging out of its head, a dog bred to be so long and low to the ground that its spine is not fit for purpose. Saw one the other day and its boy bits were literally dragging on the ground poor thing. Why would you want a dog with basically no legs??
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this last paragraph but there you are...

While I completely agree with most of what is said here; especially about responsible breeding …

I just wanted to say that we are lucky to live rurally and have always had one or two daschunds along with other larger dogs, from responsible breeders. Sometimes you have to wait three years or more for a puppy. And we have never had any back issues with them. They are strong sporting animals, bred to hunt badgers originally. They should never ever have their bits dragging on the ground or any exaggerated features. Nor should they imho have strange markings like dapple. Because when breeders focus on looks and unusual colouring, they tend to lose sight of character and functionality.

Where it goes wrong for daschunds is that people carry them around and treat them as cutesy companions and lap dogs when they are actual sporting energetic dogs who can walk for long distances and dig huge holes.

To thrive, they need a lot of exercise and environmental enrichment and the opportunity to dig, as they were originally bred to do. Ours are very fit and trim because they run and walk for miles every day, are strong and wiry with good muscle development which protects their backs. They never need their claws clipping.

But all the time you see daschunds with over- long claws being carried or confined or dressed up like a toy, prevented from digging, and they become frustrated, overly vocal, snappy and overweight with poor physical tone. it’s a recipe for disaster imho.

Bur please don’t dismiss an entire breed because some people are breeding very poor specimens.

People are not going to agree with me here but at least when dogs were bred for hunting it was important that they functioned well. They had to keep going all day in the field. So functional characteristics were at the forefront of breeders’ minds.

To be clear I do not agree with hunting badgers either.

Say what you like about hunting but now it is is banned and people are breeding for vanity really and functionality flies out of the window! So you get dogs who can’t breathe properly or whose bits drag on the ground. It’s utterly shocking.

Personally I only buy the sporting lines of any breed but you then need to be able to give it wide open spaces, or at least long long multiple daily walks in all weathers, to not over feed or carry about, and allow it to simulate the behaviour it was originally bred for. You don’t necessarily have to live in the countryside to achieve this but you have to put in a lot of consistent effort in all weathers.

eotchs · 16/08/2024 09:47

Pyreneansylvie · 16/08/2024 06:42

Personally feel no guilt about buying a puppy.

Please explain your reasons for saying this...

Edited

sYeah so I do have a dog myself, who I Iove and would hate to be without.

But having given it thought, and if I were to be entirely unselfish about it, I think the entire concept of having pets is off. I say this as a dog/cat/animal lover and frequent pet sitter – I know that many pets have great lives and are very much loved.

But I look at my dog and think – he can never have a family of his own, he is an adjunct to our family (he is family, but let’s face it, we wouldn’t put a kid up for adoption to accommodate the needs of a dog). He’s permanently relegated to ‘child’ position in the family (in the sense that he will not graduate to running his own family). He has very little self-determination.

We got ours by chance as his previous owner died. If I were to get another I’d only consider getting an existing dog that had been abandoned. I know dogs bring a lot of joy and are valued members of the family, and getting a puppy can be more convenient and gives you more control over the dog you get, however underlying that, for me, it’s also kind of inescapable that the whole concept of breeding animals just to be kept as pets in my opinion doesn’t really stand scrutiny. I don’t judge people I know who do it (all lovely). I just feel a profit-making industry that creates and treats pets as a commodity is not something I’d like to participate in or perpetuate.

Timetothink54321 · 16/08/2024 09:52

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 16/08/2024 08:05

My advice would be that dogs are often very poor companions for children, especially ND children. Despite what the romanticised stories will say.

In 2024 there is no excuse to be buying from a BYB or puppy farm.

Agree! With a lot of breeds I would wait until a child was nine years old before introducing a dog in to the house. Mostly because dc develop sufficient understanding and self control at that age. Some breeds are compatible with younger dc but always should be taught properly how to behave around dogs and properly supervised by adults. .

It always astounds me how many parents let their dc run up to my dogs and pat them on the head, or on a couple of occasions, fling their arms around them. Always kindly intended by the child, but how would you like it if a stranger ran up to you and did that?

Not2identifying · 16/08/2024 09:54

@eotchs As an alternative perspective, sometimes I struggle to watch wildlife documentaries because of how brutal it is for many animals in the wild. I look at them and then I look at my dog lying on his back on my sofa and know who I would rather be if I had to choose.

My dog goes nearly everywhere I go and he therefore nearly always has human company and varied life experiences. Most days I ask myself what I can do ensure he is fulfilled. Of all the lives (human and animal throughout all of time) I think he won the lottery really.

Timetothink54321 · 16/08/2024 10:02

Not2identifying · 16/08/2024 09:54

@eotchs As an alternative perspective, sometimes I struggle to watch wildlife documentaries because of how brutal it is for many animals in the wild. I look at them and then I look at my dog lying on his back on my sofa and know who I would rather be if I had to choose.

My dog goes nearly everywhere I go and he therefore nearly always has human company and varied life experiences. Most days I ask myself what I can do ensure he is fulfilled. Of all the lives (human and animal throughout all of time) I think he won the lottery really.

Absolutely. We’ve co-existed for thousands of years. Why are so many street dogs adopted from Romania if they are so happy running free?

The answer is they are running free but semi-starving, carrying infected bites and other injuries, have no access to proper veterinary care, exposed to extremes of weathers without shelter, carrying large parasite burdens.

Pyreneansylvie · 16/08/2024 10:11

eotchs · 16/08/2024 09:47

sYeah so I do have a dog myself, who I Iove and would hate to be without.

But having given it thought, and if I were to be entirely unselfish about it, I think the entire concept of having pets is off. I say this as a dog/cat/animal lover and frequent pet sitter – I know that many pets have great lives and are very much loved.

But I look at my dog and think – he can never have a family of his own, he is an adjunct to our family (he is family, but let’s face it, we wouldn’t put a kid up for adoption to accommodate the needs of a dog). He’s permanently relegated to ‘child’ position in the family (in the sense that he will not graduate to running his own family). He has very little self-determination.

We got ours by chance as his previous owner died. If I were to get another I’d only consider getting an existing dog that had been abandoned. I know dogs bring a lot of joy and are valued members of the family, and getting a puppy can be more convenient and gives you more control over the dog you get, however underlying that, for me, it’s also kind of inescapable that the whole concept of breeding animals just to be kept as pets in my opinion doesn’t really stand scrutiny. I don’t judge people I know who do it (all lovely). I just feel a profit-making industry that creates and treats pets as a commodity is not something I’d like to participate in or perpetuate.

Thanks for answering. I totally agree with all of this, despite having recently bought a pedigree puppy.

We were dogless for three years before we got this pup. We thought long and hard before we got her. My partner is very anti dog breeder; he considers that many in the world of showing and breeding are no better than puppy farms. We considered all different options but in the end went for the same breed as before.

And yes, in some ways it does feel like a commodity. You go and look at the puppy - which I guess you could equate to test driving a car - then you go back and collect it. And you expect it to slot straight into your life. For some people that's all it is and is why rescue centres are full of poos and doodles, Staffies and Frenchies... So when I look at it like that I do feel guilt. Even more so when I consider that I'm taking on a giant breed dog in a small suburban house & garden. Then I could say that I am utterly selfish. And I'm also a hypocrite because I wouldn't recommend my breed to anyone; they shed, they bark, they chew, they don't do recall. They are a wild animal in captivity and I wish I didn't love them so much and I wish I could let go. But all I can do is try my best for my girl.

So yep, I cannot argue with anything you say. Your opinions make perfect sense and I wish all dog owners (including myself) were as logical and articulate in their views on the dog 'ownership' dilemma.

DiscoBeat · 16/08/2024 10:55

To thoroughly research the breed for compatibility with the family. And to get a cat if you're out at work all day! We're home all day and STILL found it stressful leaving our puppy for an hour or so while at the supermarket, eg.

Hoppinggreen · 16/08/2024 13:15

I wish everyone knew that using physical punishment (even a "tap" on the nose) is cruel and also counter productive

Getonwitit · 16/08/2024 16:08

The most important thing people need to know before getting a dog is that it is a dog, not a bubba furry baby or a bloody toy. It is a dog.

TeamPolin · 19/08/2024 14:18

Really seriously think about your lifestyle and pick a dog that is compatible with it, rather picking a breed by appearance. It doesn't matter how much you love it, a husky is never going to do well in a flat....

bakewellbride · 22/09/2024 22:32

We're getting our first dog next week so I'm thankful for this thread

StarDolphins · 22/09/2024 22:37

That they are THE best, loyal & amazing thing you can share your life with. They absolutely love you unconditionally & don’t ask for much.They’re here for a such a short time & it’s never long enough. When they go, it’s absolutely heartbreaking.

Improbablywrong · 23/09/2024 10:33

we had a dog steal our picnic this weekend.

so if your dog cannot be trusted around food and you spot a family ahead eating, put the dog on the lead.

if your dog does something shitty, just apologise and don’t blame someone for walking / talking / eating etc. just accept your dog might have been a bastard and you didn’t preempt the situation properly.

Canalboat · 23/09/2024 10:42

Do your research. They need to be trained and it’s hard work and takes time. It is rewarding but don’t take it on if you haven’t got time and energy or don’t know what you’re doing