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I cannot bond with puppy - devastated

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Solsticemoon · 09/08/2024 20:04

Please may i have advice
we got a new puppy , a month after we lost out beloved dog aged 15
initially all was well . She is a really good pup - v few accidents in house - sleeps through .
she is now 6 months old .

i domt feel a connection- ive never felt like this before. Everything is a chore. .I try to go and get breaks .
i realise that i am still greiving my soul mate dog .
if she was affectionate or cuddly , it would really help but she is very confident and independent - for eg she happliy sits in garden for ages by herself and has done since a new pup - never wants to sit on my knee or lie next to me - moves away to rest - no contact wereas my old girl slept spine to spine with me and sat on my knee all night - which I expected as same well known lap dog breed

  • so this and the grief and unfair comparison is really affecting the bond
friend has kindly suggested rehome while young I spend each day in tears as i wanted to love this dog so much and it feels like i dont . am terrified am affecting her

the question is ( we got her at ten weeks) could the bond grow or is it best ( for her ) not to take that risk that it wont and decide re home while she is young so she can settle .
this is a terrible situation - feel intensely guilty and very very sad
I genuinely did not anticipate the grief re my old dog to affect things like this . A rescue i spoke to said it is common.
i dont know how to proceed, how to actually’ be ‘ / exist in this situation as infeel an awful person and so distraught.
someone said try longer the bond will grow hyt am really not connected .

OP posts:
AliasGrape · 09/08/2024 20:55

Gosh we lost my best boy dog, the love of my life, 3 years ago and I’m only just thinking I might be ready to think about another (in fairness this has been complicated by having a young child).

I miss having a dog and would like to open our homes and our lives to one again, but I’ll never love another dog the way I loved him - it just won’t be possible. I will love another dog plenty, but differently. Because they won’t be him, and they won’t mean all the things he meant to be because of the way/ time her came into my life and all the experiences I went through with him and the way he made DH and I into a family when we first were together and through all the years ttc.

Honestly, I rehomed him and I was the best bloody thing that ever happened to him (and he was to me up to that point, and now along with my husband and daughter) - so I don’t necessarily think rehoming is some terrible thing to do to a dog providing you are able to find a suitable home that’s a good match. I don’t for a second mean it should be done lightly, but I think your dog is still young enough for it to be a good move for them and you.

Why don’t you try the fostering thing? It would be no different from the dog’s perspective to owners who go on holiday and leave their dog to be cared for by someone else - and might just give you a bit of space and clarity to decide a way forward.

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 09/08/2024 20:58

user1490298596 · 09/08/2024 20:44

It’s hard to compare a soul dog to a new pet. Have you thought about a second dog and choose a more affectionate breed. Dachshunds love like nothing I’ve ever known. They aren’t an easy breed but with the older dog to show the ropes it could be a perfect match. Your knee would never be empty they are the most loving little dogs but they love to bark!

This isn’t really true. I’ve currently got 3 dachshunds and have previously had 3 others. Only 2 have been truly “affectionate”. Dogs are all different even within the same breed.

Dygger · 09/08/2024 21:03

Solsticemoon · 09/08/2024 20:18

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone
can i please ask why did uou say re home her please- i am worried about harmimg her if she stays ( emotionally / as i am upset) and also if she goes .
why do you day that - is it to help her ? I just want to understand..

She's clearly an intelligent, aloof sort of dog — which I would like, because I hate clingy, needy dogs and prefer a dog who's their own person, if you know what I mean. I hate sharing a bed with a hot dog that wants to be up against me. Can't be much fun for her having an emotionally needy, clingy sort of human who gives off miserable vibes. In the long run she's going to be happier with someone who's happy with her and isn't constantly wishing she was something she's not. As PPs have said, you're probably best off with a nervous rescue dog who won't want you out of its sight.

LemonadeQueen · 09/08/2024 21:03

SaintHonoria · 09/08/2024 20:36

Dogs are very times into our emotions.

You are doing your utmost to care for your dog but she knows there is a barrier there.

Once your grief from your old dog has healed you will find it easier to bind with your new dog and your dog will sense that change in you.

You're very uptight inside and your dog can tell.

100% agree. Our pets are very sensitive yo our emotions. Does she have a bond and want go to be near anyone else in house?

rubeelum · 09/08/2024 21:07

Thunder8090 · 09/08/2024 20:22

One of my Labs was very aloof and independent when she was young, wouldn't lie with me, didn't much care for cuddles etc....

All that changed when she got to about 3 yrs. she then became my absolute shadow and still is (now 14!)

She's incredibly affectionate, loves attention and is just the sweetest girl ever.

Yours may well be the same OP, don't give up on her if she is otherwise a fantastic dog.

I came here to say exactly this. Our lab has slowly become more and more cuddly. She’s nearly two and the difference in a year is huge.

op you sounds so lovely. Your post doesn’t say to me you hate the dog. Just that you’re still grieving. I do think time can make a huge difference.

Newsenmum · 09/08/2024 21:10

Solsticemoon · 09/08/2024 20:29

Ok thank you

a dog rescue lady has offered to see if she can be fostered for a week to see if it feels right that she goes

its not her fault
its my genuine mistake and i loathe myself for it

i should have allowed grief

she is a very good dog
i house trained her from day one every half hour and she did not need pads

she has now settled v well at night

she is very confident

she walks on a loose lease much of the time- unless sees other dogs

Please don’t loathe yourself for it. It’s unfortunate but not the worst thing. The worst thing is you saying you might harm it if she stays!

Don’t get another puppy. Puppies are nightmares. Good luck with the future. You need to work on yourself now.

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 09/08/2024 21:21

Dogs know your emotions. You don't want this dog, you want your old dog back. You'd drop her without a second thought.

You need to process your grief and want a new dog, with their own personality and quirks to bond with another dog. Even if you rehomed and got the lapdog you think you're after you'd not bond, you'd struggle comparing every minute detail.

21ZIGGY · 09/08/2024 21:22

You sound like you really care about her. Give it time. You will love her for the dog she is rather than the dog you thought she'd be. ❣️❣️

Narwhal23456 · 09/08/2024 21:25

21ZIGGY · 09/08/2024 21:22

You sound like you really care about her. Give it time. You will love her for the dog she is rather than the dog you thought she'd be. ❣️❣️

Edited

This. Give it time, like another post said... how would you feel if you came home and she had gone?

Curlewwoohoo · 09/08/2024 21:32

You're never going to get a consensus of opinion, OP. You're the only ones who can decide. Why don't you try the fostering thing for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. It would be no different for the dog than if you had gone on holiday.

Tildatown · 10/08/2024 01:44

Solsticemoon, what a lovely user name.

I have looked back to your 3 posts and really feel for you. You sound lovely and with so much to offer your dog. I can relate to your feelings on having an independent dog. I have a almost 1 year old labrador who often doesn't enjoy me stroking his head or back. He'll do a downward dog yoga stretch when I stroke his head to move away.

His trainer suggested de-sensitising him to touch by stroking him all over daily and giving him food rewards when he allows this. I tried this but am not convinced that's right approach. I felt my puppy's back stiffen slightly for the first time under my touch while I was attempting that recently and decided there and then to never again attempt to bribe him into enjoying affection with food rewards. Instead I'm working with what he genuinely likes and respecting what he doesn't.

What works, as another poster suggested is getting down on floor with him. I also find he genuinely enjoys some types of touch but not others. For example he enjoys pressing himself into my legs and having his chest stroked when I'm standing. He sometimes likes having the side of his face stroked gently and lovingly if he's feeling affectionate. He doesn't mind having his shoulders rubbed.
I also find if I can avoid telling him off in any way for a few weeks he tends to start to seek contact more.
My dog's still a puppy too so I hope he'll enjoy affection more as he becomes calmer adult dog. If he doesn't, that's OK. Somewhere between bringing him home and now, my focus shifted away from what 'I expect from a dog' to a more understanding relationship between the Unique he is and the Unique I am. I reckon that's the real joy of loving anyone, dog or person. It took months for that shift to start to happen for me. I've no doubt it'll happen for you too and that's when you'll never look back. You'll find the bond with him. It's just like how you love more than one person deeply, each for who they are.

My advice would be to focus on the type of touch your pup enjoys. You mentioned she likes sleeping at foot of your bed so that may be a starting point. Also see what happens if you try not looking at her directly as much. Some dogs find that intimidating. People keep telling me that my dog looks at me adoringly when I stop looking at him.

It's much more difficult for you as you're grieving the loss of your 15 year old dearly loved dog. A lot of what you're describing e.g. constant crying may be combination of grief and feeling down and be more complex than being about new puppy.

It sounds like you're being so loving towards your puppy. You're giving her a great home and a great life. You're so considerate towards how she feels and you want to avoid any harm to her emotionally. The fact you care about that so much and feel so guilty about not feeling close bond says to me she's in very safe, loving hands. Singing to her, taking her with you to pub and cafe, sitting in garden with her etc. all sounds like she has a happy life, she's happy with you I am certain!

I would suggest please don't even consider rehoming your pup unless it's something you genuinely and surely want to do for you. Definately don't do it "for her sake'. For what it's worth I definately don't think you should. There's absolutely no need. Your bond will develop. Now that you have her, I think you will likely feel even worse if you attempted to rehome her. I think dogs can settle into new homes at any age. So please, please take pressure off yourself. Just try to enjoy her and before you know it I reckon you'll be thanking your lucky stars (and solstice moon!) that you chose her from her litter. I think you're doing great. I really hope you find a way back to happiness.

Your puppy is very likely to become more intuitive and bonded to you as the months and years go by too. And her sneaking onto the foot of your bed in the early hours says to me she already loves you!

Take care. Go easy on yourself. Life's such a roller coaster, espescially with a puppy in the mix. Absolutely none of us is perfect. You sound like a good soul doing your best. I believe your best will be more than enough; that you're more than capable of raising this puppy well; that your pup is very lucky to have you. You've proven you can give a dog a 1st class loving home. You are likely already doing more right than you give yourself credit for. Anything else, you'll work it out.

I only signed up to say that, I'm going back to lurking again now.

But you have my very best wishes!

HeddaGarbled · 10/08/2024 02:05

If you meet her physical needs and aren’t horrible to her, she’ll be fine. Sometimes dog people can get a bit over-sentimental over what is a transactional relationship. Don’t get hung up about the bonding thing. Dogs will bond with anyone who feeds them and treats them well.

Stressybetty · 10/08/2024 02:11

One of ours was like that until she had her first heat then she was much more relaxed and living.

Stressybetty · 10/08/2024 02:11

loving!

BeBopBeBop · 10/08/2024 04:32

Ours is a rescue; the dream was to get an affectionate dog that slept in our beds and followed us around. Instead we've got an anxious dog who likes her own space. But she is our dog, and we are her people. And for me this is why I think you should rehome her while she is so young.

Ask yourself honestly how you'll feel if she never becomes affectionate - as is her right to be that way - it's not fair for her to live in a household that feels even the slightest resentment when potentially there is a home out there who will love her for who she is.

I wouldn't judge you for rehoming in these circumstances, however I would judge if you then proceed to get another dog quickly. You need to take time to grieve your old dog, to allow yourself to be open to a different dog - and you're just not there yet.

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