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Artificial grass….how to train dog not to toilet on it?

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NewMeNewUs · 04/04/2024 20:44

We are having our garden renovated in a couple of weeks which included artificial grass being laid.
the gardener has advised me to train the dog (1 year old Labrador) not to toilet on the fake grass, she can do it on the patio instead.
my question is how do I teach this!? Many thanks

OP posts:
LordSnot · 07/04/2024 17:27

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 12:08

Noise pollution with the endless mowing at the weekend to keep your lawn looking almost as good as artificial grass, your poor neighbours.

Still better than your ugly fake grass hun.

SharonEllis · 07/04/2024 19:51

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 09:56

Benefits of artificial grass:
Withstands harsh weather conditions
Looks as good as new for +/- 15 years
No discolouration, patchiness, weeds
Next to no maintenance
Lower water bills
No mowing, watering or seeding required
Stays green all year round
Ideal for kids and pets
Does not cause hay fever

This is just nonsense. 3 front gardens near us have plastic glass. They all are a weird faded green. One is in strips and looks frayed round the edges. One has weeds growing up through it. I see the owner out sweeping the one which looks half decent, (if you like the fake plastic look). I never sweep my real lawn! I only mow it a few times a year - very little maintenance. I NEVER water it, but judging by everything owners of plastic grass say it requires 'washing,'. Plus the water involved in producing it and the negative impact on flood management of plastic grass. So I cant imagine how having plastic grass lowers water bills. Plastic grass won't cause hayfever, sure but having a plastic lawn won't prevent you getting hay fever from other forms of pollen (lots are allergic to tree pollen). And the plasticization of our environment and separation from nature is very likely increasing our propensitu to getting allergies

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/04/2024 20:27

There’s a house on my walk to work where the small square of lawn was replaced with plastic grass last spring. The weeds already growing through it make me smile every day.

Nature fighting back.

Suspect without more effort than I put into my grass these things don’t look ‘good’ for long.

Sensitivesituation2424 · 07/04/2024 20:36

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/04/2024 20:27

There’s a house on my walk to work where the small square of lawn was replaced with plastic grass last spring. The weeds already growing through it make me smile every day.

Nature fighting back.

Suspect without more effort than I put into my grass these things don’t look ‘good’ for long.

Do you mean they just stuck a bit of fake grass alongside real grass ? If so that's very odd . And yes weeds would definitely green through it like that .

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/04/2024 20:42

No they removed the actual grass and did all the preparation underneath and then laid the plastic. You can’t keep a good dandelion down it would seem.

K0OLA1D · 07/04/2024 20:46

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/04/2024 20:42

No they removed the actual grass and did all the preparation underneath and then laid the plastic. You can’t keep a good dandelion down it would seem.

They can't have done it right. Ours must've been down at least 8 years and apart from a bit of moss up one corner we don't get any weeds at all

bluecomputerscreen · 07/04/2024 20:51

Do you mean they just stuck a bit of fake grass alongside real grass ? If so that's very odd . And yes weeds would definitely green through it like that .

plants will grow where they have good growing conditions. including on top of grassphalt.
unless you remove seedlings regularly plastic grass will be the base of new plants quite soon.

newtlover · 07/04/2024 21:06

I never fly anywhere and I walk to work, and share a lawnmower with neighbours
am I allowed an opinion about plastic grass?

Sensitivesituation2424 · 07/04/2024 21:06

K0OLA1D · 07/04/2024 20:46

They can't have done it right. Ours must've been down at least 8 years and apart from a bit of moss up one corner we don't get any weeds at all

I agree. Mines only been down a year. And I don't get weeds either. It means tee base for it was not done well .

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 21:20

newtlover · 07/04/2024 21:06

I never fly anywhere and I walk to work, and share a lawnmower with neighbours
am I allowed an opinion about plastic grass?

Only if you wear sandals with socks!

IndecentPropolis · 08/04/2024 09:00

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/04/2024 20:27

There’s a house on my walk to work where the small square of lawn was replaced with plastic grass last spring. The weeds already growing through it make me smile every day.

Nature fighting back.

Suspect without more effort than I put into my grass these things don’t look ‘good’ for long.

Ours has been down for years. The only time there is any weed growth isn’t from underneath - birds drop seeds occasionally and of course certain things are wind borne. So you’ll sometimes have tiny little sprouts that need tweaking out. It’s like growing cress on kitchen roll. But nothing ever comes from underneath.

butterflymagic · 08/04/2024 09:05

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 04/04/2024 20:46

Honestly? Don’t cover your garden in plastic. It’s an environmental nightmare, it will heat to ridiculous temperatures in the summer and be dangerous to your dog and to humans who might walk barefoot on it. Keep the grass. It’s better off all round and will solve the problem of trying to get your dog to poo on your patio.

Totally agree! Needs to be banned and think it likely will someday.

newtlover · 08/04/2024 12:00

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 21:20

Only if you wear sandals with socks!

ahem
it is possible to be both stylish and care for the environment you know
socks and sandals indeed

tabulahrasa · 08/04/2024 12:38

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 12:08

Noise pollution with the endless mowing at the weekend to keep your lawn looking almost as good as artificial grass, your poor neighbours.

Endless mowing? It’s a garden not a bowling green, half an hour 3 or 4 times between may and September and it’s done.

tabulahrasa · 08/04/2024 12:38

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 12:08

Noise pollution with the endless mowing at the weekend to keep your lawn looking almost as good as artificial grass, your poor neighbours.

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tabulahrasa · 08/04/2024 12:38

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 12:08

Noise pollution with the endless mowing at the weekend to keep your lawn looking almost as good as artificial grass, your poor neighbours.

And again

bunnygeek · 08/04/2024 14:59

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 12:08

Noise pollution with the endless mowing at the weekend to keep your lawn looking almost as good as artificial grass, your poor neighbours.

5 minutes for me with a push mower once every few weeks, compared to people with power hoses and leaf blowers desperately trying to keep their precious plastic leaf-free.

Also, don't mind a "weed", no such thing as "weeds" really, they're just wild plants. The only one I actively pull up is the creeping buttercup, but the dandelions can stay (my rabbits also agree).

youngones1 · 08/04/2024 15:06

The average household mows their lawn once a week, invariably on a Saturday morning when their neighbours are trying to sleep. No annoying the neighbours when you have an artificial lawn.

bunnygeek · 08/04/2024 15:24

youngones1 · 08/04/2024 15:06

The average household mows their lawn once a week, invariably on a Saturday morning when their neighbours are trying to sleep. No annoying the neighbours when you have an artificial lawn.

Apart from the potential screaming playing children, endless footballs against fences, barking dogs, loud chatter, music playing everyone with a plastic lawn is completely silent at all times I guess?

SharonEllis · 08/04/2024 16:01

youngones1 · 08/04/2024 15:06

The average household mows their lawn once a week, invariably on a Saturday morning when their neighbours are trying to sleep. No annoying the neighbours when you have an artificial lawn.

I suspect this is made up data! I know noone who mows the lawn once a week & my neighbours have never woken me up mowing the lawn in any house I have ever lived in. One the excuses Ive heard for plastic lawns is they make entertainkng easier so I suspect plastic lawns may lead to more not less antisocial behaviour.

RafaistheKingofClay · 08/04/2024 16:12

I would have thought weekly lawn mowing was becoming less and less likely as people become more aware of decreasing biodiversity.

Can’t really be arsed with that anyway. It sounds a bit time consuming.

tabulahrasa · 08/04/2024 17:27

youngones1 · 08/04/2024 15:06

The average household mows their lawn once a week, invariably on a Saturday morning when their neighbours are trying to sleep. No annoying the neighbours when you have an artificial lawn.

I know literally no average households then 😂

I know a couple of people who are pretty into gardening as a hobby and do it fortnightly from spring to autumn, a load of people who do it more like me where every few weeks in summer they decide it probably needs doing, but then it takes a week or two to be dry enough and have time to do it, one who does it once a year with a strimmer because it’s got to waist height and they say they’re going to cut the grass and finally sort out the garden, but never do so just repeat it the next year and a couple who never cut it because their pet rabbits or guinea pigs keep it so short they don’t need to.

user1477391263 · 09/04/2024 01:43

My parents have a lawn, are moderately interested in their garden, and still only mow once every three weeks. Doesn’t take long. And they have a BIG garden.

This is a dog owners forum. If anyone here is in a situation where they and their partner are both EITHER physically incapable of leaving the house, or so brain-meltingly busy that they are literally incapable of finding one hour every few weeks, I really struggle to see how they can possibly be managing to walk and care for a dog.

K0OLA1D · 09/04/2024 03:25

user1477391263 · 09/04/2024 01:43

My parents have a lawn, are moderately interested in their garden, and still only mow once every three weeks. Doesn’t take long. And they have a BIG garden.

This is a dog owners forum. If anyone here is in a situation where they and their partner are both EITHER physically incapable of leaving the house, or so brain-meltingly busy that they are literally incapable of finding one hour every few weeks, I really struggle to see how they can possibly be managing to walk and care for a dog.

Edited

If that is aimed at me, my dog us very well looked after thanks. He's walked, stimulated and a very happy old man. As I said, grass was already down, we don't have the funds to completely re-do the garden, we have just picked up the pluses of having it now we do.

Sensitivesituation2424 · 09/04/2024 09:45

K0OLA1D · 09/04/2024 03:25

If that is aimed at me, my dog us very well looked after thanks. He's walked, stimulated and a very happy old man. As I said, grass was already down, we don't have the funds to completely re-do the garden, we have just picked up the pluses of having it now we do.

Up keep of a garden moving etc is completely different to walking a dog. I don't understand why it's Been compared.

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