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What Would You Do? - French Bulldog issues

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Createausername1970 · 01/02/2024 18:00

II am in a bit of a dilemma, so would appreciate input.

We have a 10 year old French Bulldog. Always had environmental allergies, resulting in red patches on her belly and sore paws. She also has a long history of tummy upsets, being sick, runny poo etc.

Last October she had a very bad reaction to something, her itching and soreness erupted overnight and was accompanied by V&D. Cue numerous trips to the vet, various injections, tablets and change of diet. The vet said she had a very bad allergic episode and this had affected her inside as well as outside and had triggered a reaction to her normal food. We were advised to change her diet to an insect protein based diet. We can buy it in the pet shop - Yora. This whole episode dragged on over about 5 - 6 weeks and she lost a lot of weight.

Here we are in February, she is still having bouts of being sick and alternates between runny poo and firm poo, and she really doesn't like the insect food. Its a struggle to get her to eat it The other issue is, even if she does eat it, she shows signs of discomfort (stretching and bowing) if she eats a lot in one go, so I am feeding her little and often throughout the day. And she hasn't put much weight back on.

The Yora costs £5 - £6 a day if she eats the quantity she is supposed to - but she is still sick and has intermittent runny poo.

The food she was on before (a hypoallergenic one) costs £1 - £2 a day if she eats the quantity she is supposed to.

Having now had 4 months of daily stress around whether or not the dog is going to eat, whether to cave in and give her something else, or stick to the Yora even though she doesn't really like it, having to plan my day around feeding the dog little and often, etc., I am feeling a bit strung out about the whole situation. and possibly not thinking straight.

I could go back to the vet, but the vet said last time that the next step would be a £1200 ultrasound to check for obstructions or other issues. I don't think its an obstruction but am wondering if its something a bit more serious.

But even if I had the ultrasound and they found a cancer or something else, I am not sure I would necessarily put her through a major operation, and being a French Bulldog it comes with its own risks anyway. We put a younger cat through cancer treatment and it was obviously quite traumatic for the cat and was ultimately unsuccessful. So i am not sure I want to repeat that experience.

So, my dilemma is - do I just say "Sod it" and revert to giving her the food she likes and will eat, and hopefully put some weight back on, and see how she is in a month or two - and consign the insects to the cupboard.

Or do I take the bull by horns, go back to the vet and pay £1200 for an ultrasound to either be told there is nothing to see, its all just her usual tummy issues, or there is something - but then not necessarily do anything about it.

We do have insurance, and cost is not the driving factor., but paying £4 a day extra for food she often refuses and ends up wasted, and then I open the other stuff anyway, does have an impact on our monthly budget.

This issue has dominated my life for about 4 months now and I think I need a bit of perspective from others.

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Createausername1970 · 03/02/2024 10:03

LegalAlienated · 03/02/2024 06:41

Are you making sure you let her tummy ‘rest’ between food changes with some plain chicken and rice diet?
I’d also get some Pro-Kolin to settle her tummy.
I understand the relucatace to go raw, my frenchie was fine with her puppy food until one day she jist wasn’t. Lots of people recommend raw for them anyway and since my cats were raw feed anyway I just changed the dog to that, too.
Pro-Kolin is a staple item in my house thiugh, just in case.

I think this is an issue if my own making too. I was getting so stressed out by her refusing the food she is supposed to have, and not putting any weight on, I was just desperate for her to eat ANYTHING, without thinking about the bigger picture.

DH sat up with her all night so he could deal with any vomit or her needing to go out. She is sleeping at the moment. She hasn't vomited for 10 hours and not asked to go out for about 5 hours, so I think she has expelled all the offending food, one way or another.

I have done some rice for her if she wants it when she wakes up, but will avoid the chicken as this is one of the potential trigger foods.

I will stick to rice for the next couple of days, but gradually mix Yora in with it.

I have definitely proved she can't handle "run of the mill" meat-based food. I knew that really, I just forgot in the moment.

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Borris · 03/02/2024 10:08

Have you tried one of purina HA, hills z/d or royal canin anallergenic? They seem to be the best ultra hypoallergenic diets. And it needs to be them and literally nothing else but water.

After that it sound like your vet is assuming (understandably) that it is an allergy. If you have failed all the allergy treatments then you need to look at other causes. Hence the ultrasound. Though 1200 sounds a lot - is this for other blood tests, poo tests etc too?

yellowduckling1 · 03/02/2024 10:21

Canagen have a new insect food. Might be worth a try to see if he prefers it?

It's such a pain trying to find a good that suits them, I really feel for you! The waste and the cost!!! Hopefully you find something suitable! X

todayshappening · 03/02/2024 10:52

I would raw feed. I have a bull breed and he was terrible with reactions and allergy's. I feed him raw and add coconut oil to his food. In 18m he's had no reaction.

Strawberrypicnic · 03/02/2024 11:24

Have you ever tried her on salmon based food? I think that is supposed to be quite good for dogs with allergies. Also other so called 'novel proteins' like duck, lamb, venison.

PaulCostinRIP · 03/02/2024 12:12

After being told a load of nonsense from the vet and trying different types of food, (they wanted to push Royal Canin) we gave our pancreatic dog Chappie and almost overnight it transformed him.

I always thought it was a cheap rubbish food but he's been thriving in it for over four years. I've since met many dogs with digestive problems and allergies who are now much better on a Chappie diet!

Createausername1970 · 03/02/2024 13:36

Borris · 03/02/2024 10:08

Have you tried one of purina HA, hills z/d or royal canin anallergenic? They seem to be the best ultra hypoallergenic diets. And it needs to be them and literally nothing else but water.

After that it sound like your vet is assuming (understandably) that it is an allergy. If you have failed all the allergy treatments then you need to look at other causes. Hence the ultrasound. Though 1200 sounds a lot - is this for other blood tests, poo tests etc too?

Purina HA was my alternative go-to, but it became hard to source. The vets couldn't get it and it was out of stock in the places I tried on-line. The receptionist at the vet surgery said it was being discontinued so I decided no point buying more. But as a stop gap it might be worth getting some. I will investigate. Thanks for the reminder.

I will also look for the hills and the royal canine too. It's great to have some alternatives.

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Createausername1970 · 03/02/2024 13:38

yellowduckling1 · 03/02/2024 10:21

Canagen have a new insect food. Might be worth a try to see if he prefers it?

It's such a pain trying to find a good that suits them, I really feel for you! The waste and the cost!!! Hopefully you find something suitable! X

Thank you. I will investigate this.

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Createausername1970 · 03/02/2024 13:41

Strawberrypicnic · 03/02/2024 11:24

Have you ever tried her on salmon based food? I think that is supposed to be quite good for dogs with allergies. Also other so called 'novel proteins' like duck, lamb, venison.

The vet said take her all the "meat" options for a while, so I was sticking to the insects - until I had a mad moment a couple of days ago 😭

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Createausername1970 · 03/02/2024 13:43

PaulCostinRIP · 03/02/2024 12:12

After being told a load of nonsense from the vet and trying different types of food, (they wanted to push Royal Canin) we gave our pancreatic dog Chappie and almost overnight it transformed him.

I always thought it was a cheap rubbish food but he's been thriving in it for over four years. I've since met many dogs with digestive problems and allergies who are now much better on a Chappie diet!

I remember Chappie. My sibling used to feed this to her dog. God, it stank! The dog loved it, but I am not sure I could cope 🫢

But actually you are not the first person to have mentioned this to me.

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