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Dog reactive with some breeds - what should I have done better in this sitution?

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walkwiththedog · 02/06/2023 10:49

3yr old dog, cockerpoo, neutered, health issues (ongoing, medicated including life long steroids), 'difficult' in many way but mostly well managed.
Most dogs he is absolutely fine with, has some 'friends' but is not a 'playful run around fun dog'.
Can be reactive to certain dogs; mainly bigger, guard dog types and all unneutered males. He'll bark and lunge if they are close enough. Some of the local dogs he's reactive to, if there is space, and the other dog ignores mine I can stand chat to owners.

If he has space, we can pass calmly without the dramatics. He is always on a lead (slip long lead), I will occasionally drop the lead in safe places if I am confident no risks and his recall is brilliant providing no distractions.

Walked this morning following a path in field with long grass. Saw a person in distance but no dog. As got nearer realised it was was off lead and one of the locals that my dog has taken issue with before. I generally turn and walk the other way but a week or so ago we passed the same dog (on a lead) and we passed without incident and I saw its now neutered. The dog is a big guard dog type and is all all accounts lovely, big playful softie. Owner attempted to recall but he more interested in trotting towards us looking happy he might have a playmat.

My usual tactic is to have a shorter lead although not tight and we do "lets go" with the aim to walk briskly past.

The dog approached us, my dog growled so the other growled. I continued, head up with "lets go" walking ahead and not looking at the either of the dogs. I'm aware there is movement, both dogs near each other, growling type noise from both but I just attempt to keep going. In this time owner has jogged over, apologised for not realising mine was on lead, attempting to call dog away and ended up asking me to "just stop" so she could grab her dog as he wasn't going to her voluntarily.

I paused momentarily. I was in panic mode and I just wanted to keep moving. She grabbed her dog and I kept walking but my immediate reaction was 'all my training has gone to pot'. No harm done to either dog, realise now that the noise was probably just noise.

My dog is a pain, I know that and for the most part its well managed. We have training support but I can't afford to sustain regular sessions so its intermittent. There are a few local dogs he takes issues with but on the whole, most days pass without incident.

We had one run in with this particular dog last year when he was younger, intact and off lead. The owners do appear to be responsible, they have a dog who does seem to just want to play despite my dog giving clear 'go away' vibes!

That's a lot of story - basically, could I have handled it differently? I was in panic mode and know that wasn't helpful.

OP posts:
dammit88 · 02/06/2023 11:04

I don't think you did anything wrong. It sounds like both of you handled it correctly in the circumstances. As soon as other owner saw your dog was on lead she came to get hers and you paused for her to get them. You kept your dog under control -he growled and you took steps to remove him from the situation. I don't think you training is lost. You just have to keep at it. Its lifelong I think not something we just do and its done forever.

Gardendad · 02/06/2023 17:57

Ideally you get your dog so much more interested in you than the other dog. If you can get him onto a toy such as a tug or ball on rope. Practice when he sees a stressful dog IN THE VERY FAR DISTANCE. You must catch it early - as soon as he sees it you play with the toy making it the best game ever. So the association becomes dog coming= game. In time you can get him to look to you in expectation once he sees another dog.

I would not walk him off lead.
I would not stop and chat with other owners as it is a lottery sometimes.
Bear in mind he hjas a big history to overcome so it should be slow.

I am not a behaviourist but this is what my behaviourist worked with me on. My dog is now obsessed with tug toy over anything else. You can then get him to tug on lead on command as a game in case you dont have a toy. ( my command is 'kill it' which also serves to move the other owner into action!)

walkwiththedog · 03/06/2023 12:54

Thanks both. I’m reassured there’s no big obvious things I missed.

I do carry a rope ball but I think in this case, it would have also been an attraction for the the fun loving adult rottie and wouldn’t have helped on this occasion! I could see it working in others so will try.

OP posts:
Gardendad · 03/06/2023 14:21

walkwiththedog · 03/06/2023 12:54

Thanks both. I’m reassured there’s no big obvious things I missed.

I do carry a rope ball but I think in this case, it would have also been an attraction for the the fun loving adult rottie and wouldn’t have helped on this occasion! I could see it working in others so will try.

In that case I block the dog with my body. My dog is behind and stand in front. Other dog should be on lead but its the UK where everything seems offlead.

Cockapoodled · 03/06/2023 16:35

I don't think your dog did anything wrong . Sounds like he growls out of fear to ask for more space? Especially if it's a bit dig offlead and he's on lead and vulnerable.

My cockapoo is anxious and would growl for me to hear that she needs space . I wouldn't have thought the slip lead would help though ,as tightening around the neck would make your dog more anxious.
That's just my take on it , based on the trainers I've had .

JayAlfredPrufrock · 03/06/2023 16:39

Second time of dog walking. Never let an off lead dog approach an on lead dog.

Pisses me right off.

SquirrelFeed · 03/06/2023 16:48

I think you did fine. You attempted to remain calm, keep your dog calm and move on. The “just stop” would’ve really pissed me off. Her dog should’ve been under her control without relying on you to intervene.

Cockapoodled · 03/06/2023 16:56

I just re read your original post . This was a rottweiler offlead that she couldn't even recall immediately? You are a lot more chilled than me . And you say your dog has got ongoing health issues and has dramatics .... of course he has "dramatics ,"
imagine being ill , on a lead around neck and unable to get away from someone you don't know running at you 4 times your weight . What else can your dog do to tell everyone he's scared?
I wouldn't say the Rottweiler owner was a responsible owner imo .

Undisclosedlocation · 03/06/2023 18:06

What you are describing is a perfectly normal dog. The vast majority are ‘dog selective’ once mature and telling a dog off for getting in his space and ignoring his ‘get lost’ signals is reasonable
I wouldn’t say you did anything wrong tbh, although now you know he will react to this one, I’d go back to an about turn and walk away tactic personally. Yes ideally the rottie wouldn’t have come over, but the owner apologised and sounds like they are generally aware of keeping him away from on lead dogs. Not ideal certainly, but we are all capable of an error and hopefully now it’s happened once they will take more care

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 03/06/2023 19:24

I don't think you did anything wrong.

Your dog was on a lead and under control - she was the one with an off-lead dog that wouldn't recall back to her. That's on her, not you.

wheresmymojo · 19/06/2023 05:37

I don't think one dog growling at another should be seen so negatively...

Effectively Rottie came over to play and your dog said "no thank you, I'm not interested, give me some space please"

Growls are just communication.

SirSniffsAlot · 19/06/2023 11:46

I don't think you did anything wrong, OP. It sounds like you are astutely aware of your dogs limitations and working hard to help them navigate the world considering them.

That the rottie owner needed to ask you to stop to get her dog back under control: whilst I think most of us recognise this does happen occasionally, it is on that owner to be apoloigetic because she's the one who's messed up there. She shouldn't need your cooperation to keep her dog under control and it's a bit worrying that she has a rottie - mainly because breeds like that are already on a back foot, with regards to perception. She really needs to have a better game than the average pet owner, with regards to control.

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