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Should we keep one pup from litter?

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Scallywag2023 · 29/05/2023 23:13

For background, we found out our springer spaniel dog who we bought from a breeder was pregnant - this was 7 weeks ago. We got her late feb, thought she was getting a bit pudgy and poss a phantom pregnancy but oh no she had 6 buns in the oven. A week after we found out she gave birth!

She’d accidentally fallen pregnant the week before we got her 🤦🏻‍♀️ and plus she’s only just coming up to a year old… not ideal at all.

Anyway that is a whole other story and possibly thread at some point.

So my question for this thread is should we keep a puppy??

As I say, we did not of course expect to find ourselves in this situation as it was not planned but we have now got attached to them and one boy in particular.

We got our dog at age 8 months because I was keen to get an older dog and having one that was part trained felt like an easy way to get back to dog ownership rather than wade through the puppy stages (our old dog died last year). She’s a delight, she’s well behaved, loves walking for miles and aside from the teenage pregnancy has settled in perfectly.

So are we crazy to consider keeping a puppy or will he just slot in because he was born here?

on the negative I’m thinking double the training, including toilet and crate training from scratch, double the insurance, double the food (prob more because he will be bigger) and holidays and doggy day care will be more expensive. Two dogs in the house feels a lot and they are springers so they get seriously filthy on walks.

But on the positive side I’m thinking he already lives here, we will never get this chance again (we wouldn’t ever breed her again), he will be company for her. And he’s insanely cute. The pro list is not as long as the con list 🤣

Has anyone got any advice please?

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FloofCloud · 30/05/2023 14:21

@PimpMyFridge she's a Samoyed

PimpMyFridge · 30/05/2023 15:27

@FloofCloud so now I understand your username 🤣🤣🤣
Gorgeous - never heard of these making good assistance dogs, yours sounds lovely!

Scallywag2023 · 30/05/2023 18:35

@ToHellBackAndBeyond yes - I am currently composing an email to the breeder to word a complaint along these lines. I had tried to keep her on side as I wanted her support whilst dealing with all of this, but that really hasn’t materialised which is very disappointing.

The dad was a springer. Pups can’t be KC reg due to my dogs age.

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Scallywag2023 · 30/05/2023 18:38

@Newpeep this is very much on my mind and I also feel like my dog needs some one on one time too after such a difficult start in life … having said that also wondering if it would be nice for her to have company.

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Girliefriendlikespuppies · 30/05/2023 18:42

They're so cute, if you have the resources and time for a puppy then yes definitely keep one.

Poor mum dog though, she's only a baby herself, what a shit breeder.

Scallywag2023 · 30/05/2023 18:47

@RunningFromInsanity annoyingly, I literally couldn’t have researched the breeder more and on paper they are gold standard. All the things you’re supposed to check and ensure, I did. Lots of evidence of happy customers and first hand testimonials. I had an interview before buying. Health checked, KC reg dogs, council licensed etc. And my dog has a great temperament and behaviour so I’m really happy with her.

I think this was a massive cock up on their side but I don’t think my dog is unhealthy.

As I said above I am currently composing a strongly worded email so I’m not completely defending them.

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Newpeep · 30/05/2023 20:26

Scallywag2023 · 30/05/2023 18:38

@Newpeep this is very much on my mind and I also feel like my dog needs some one on one time too after such a difficult start in life … having said that also wondering if it would be nice for her to have company.

Before you decide, research litter mate syndrome. It would apply in your case as the dogs are both puppies. My last dog was a litter mate rehome at 6 months and I’ve taught quite a few litter mates in our dog training club and it’s not a situation you want to find yourself in. It’s challenging at best and horrific at worst.

I’d concentrate on your lovely girl but then I’ve seen it first hand. It can be an extremely challenging situation for all of you.

Keeping a puppy from a mature, well rounded mum with all the right things done is very very different.

shiningstar2 · 30/05/2023 20:42

The puppies and mother are lovely..if you don't intend that the mother has another litter are you going to have her spayed. If you do decide to keep a puppy if it is make you will need either the mother spayed or the male puppy neutered or you will be in the same situation again very soon. A 'teenage' dog has no moral compass 😁 so you will need to make important decisions quite quickly. The puppies are lovely. Dont understand how a responsible breeder he anded a pregnant bitch on to you without knowledge though. 🤔

redboxer321 · 30/05/2023 21:06

Scallywag2023 · 30/05/2023 18:47

@RunningFromInsanity annoyingly, I literally couldn’t have researched the breeder more and on paper they are gold standard. All the things you’re supposed to check and ensure, I did. Lots of evidence of happy customers and first hand testimonials. I had an interview before buying. Health checked, KC reg dogs, council licensed etc. And my dog has a great temperament and behaviour so I’m really happy with her.

I think this was a massive cock up on their side but I don’t think my dog is unhealthy.

As I said above I am currently composing a strongly worded email so I’m not completely defending them.

I don't think it was a massive cock up. I think the breeder is a bad breeder/possible puppy farmer and the checks you did mean little to nothing.

Health checks are useless. It's health tests you need with scores for conditions that are more likely to occur in that breed.
It's pretty easy to get a council license to breed. They don't set a very high bar.
KC registering means very little. It's pretty much just paper work.
It's easy to dupe happy customers and get them to write a good review.
As for the interview, let me guess, they told you they only wanted 5-star home for their dog. Yeah, right.

I hope everything works out for you and your dog and the pups but I am sorry to say that I have found it disappointing to read the "aw, puppies" type replies on this thread.

As for writing an email, I really wouldn't bother but I would report the breeder and leave them an honest review.

Curious as to why the dog was sold at the age she was too.

Cece92 · 30/05/2023 21:10

I think from those pictures you should keep them all. Sorry I am no help at all xx

CC4712 · 30/05/2023 21:20

My MIL kept a puppy and its been a nightmare. Look up litter mate syndrome- which can have similar effects. I'm sure the issues with keeping a puppy came up on dogs behaving badly. Not impossible- but certainly not ideal.

MIL's puppy (now an adult) fights with other dogs, defends the mother and won't let the mother play with other dogs as gets possessive. MIL had no idea things like this could happen and did absolutely no steps to prevent it- separate walks, separate training etc. I'd suggest you read up as much as possible before committing to it.

Do you know for sure that the puppies father isn't related to them?

DidyouNO · 30/05/2023 21:23

Our cats had kittens (planned) and the vet said there was one. We decided to keep it. She had four. We now have six cats. Don't be me 😂😂

3luckystars · 30/05/2023 21:25

I would!

Scallywag2023 · 30/05/2023 22:02

Lots of good advice here and it really is helping me to think hard about things so thank you for all the replies.

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