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wheresmymojo · 23/05/2023 08:10

I have a beautiful dog...she's a mutt but beautiful, healthy and a brilliant personality.

I'd like her to have one litter of puppies as we'd like to keep one and they'd make lovely family pets.

We'd choose the mating partner very carefully although we wouldn't be concerned about them being a registered pedigree or their 'breeding line' as long as there was evidence of them being a healthy, well rounded pet.

We both work from home and would raise the puppies in the best possible way - a home environment, they'd be raised with cats and lots of socialisation.

We'd vet any prospective buyers to the same degree that any pedigree breeder would and will offer the same guarantee to take the puppies back if they ever need to be re-homed for any reason.

I'm not a fan of pedigree KC breeding because I feel it's done a lot of damage to dogs.

IMO a well rounded, healthy 'mutt' (GSD cross) is a much more positive thing than yet another slope backed GSD.

I've always had rescue animals but they aren't always the right fit for everyone.

I've been thinking about it and don't really understand why people are okay with pedigree breeders but not with family pets having a litter?

Can anyone explain why?

Surely in our kind of circumstances it's better for a family pet to have one healthy, loved, well socialised litter than the many pedigree 'KC registered' breeders who continue unhealthy breeding standards?

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Clymene · 23/05/2023 12:51

To remind me I mean - she'd told me when I got him but just rang to reiterate it.

That's what a responsible breeder does.

Mythril · 23/05/2023 13:10

The difference with pedigrees is that you largely know what you're getting, they breed "true." You know how big your puppy is going to get, what kind of temperament to expect, what kind of health issues are more likely to pop up. And because of this there is more demand for them (though this is breed dependant).

There is less demand for people wanting to purchase a crossbreed for where all these things are unknown. Shelters are already full of crossbreeds, and most people will head there.

I don't disagree that some Pedigree breeds have been have been inbred into the ground. And if you were starting a crossbreed program to introduce new blood to a breed or to start a new breed, I'd totally get it. But otherwise I think you're just adding to the population of dogs for which there is low demand.

somethinginthewater · 25/05/2023 22:39

You have a home for one puppy.
Enjoy having 10 dogs, it'll be a blast.

RunningFromInsanity · 26/05/2023 11:09

You are all wasting your time, OP is obviously going to breed her dog because puppies=💰💰

Fiddlerdragon · 28/05/2023 00:19

RunningFromInsanity · 26/05/2023 11:09

You are all wasting your time, OP is obviously going to breed her dog because puppies=💰💰

She’s going to get jack shit for her puppies really. She’s pretty normal in that she thinks the same way as a lot of us do imo. Who honestly doesn’t want a cute litter of newborn puppies to play with until they get messy and annoying and then offload them? Luckily some of us aren’t utter dickheads who don’t realise that the offloading bit can cause unbelievable suffering to an animal that you brought into this world. If I had a magic wand I’d make it so that everyone had to live out the life of every animal they’d bred, let’s see how keen she is then when she wants to breed a litter of huge mongrels that are going to be sold to morons who keep them in ‘crates’ (cages) and put in rescues and possibly euthanised.

Clymene · 28/05/2023 00:29

She won't make 💰 though. No one wants to pay for random cross breeds at the best of times and especially not now.

There's a bloke on my Facebook who's still got most of a litter and they're now 9 months. All the people who said they wanted them changed their minds. And now he's stuck with loads of dogs.

Motorina · 28/05/2023 09:35

I don't keep up with puppy buying trends, so I was slightly surprised to read about unsold puppies. I've just looked on pets4homes (and, yeah, I know, I'd never buy a puppy through them, but it gives a sense of the market).

5 years ago, when I was looking for my girl, puppies were literally sold before they were born. If there was a rare puppy left you had to be on it, as they'd all be sold long before 8 weeks.

Now, there's lots of 10 or 12 week old puppies, including from KC breeders, unsold. And presumably becoming less attractive and harder to sell with every passing day.

Strange times. And not a time to be breeding, unless you're happy to end up with a lot more dogs than you started with.

Sitdowncupoftea · 31/05/2023 13:03

@wheresmymojo I'm not sure what you mean by "KC registered' breeders who continue unhealthy breeding standards?
Looking at what you are doing your what I term as a backstreet breeder.

As you said "
IMO a well rounded, healthy 'mutt' (GSD cross) is a much more positive thing than yet another slope backed GSD." The slope backed GSD are showline just so you are aware. The straight backed are working line. You will find working or show line GSD via registered KC breeders that are fully health checked so why buy from a back yard breeder that clearly does not even know the breed.

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