Cockapoo F1 no poo

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So this is my puppy. He's a first gen cockapoo. Doesn't seem to resemble the mother who was a mini white poodle. I'll attach a photo of his dad too, who he looks like.

Will he stay looking more spaniel or will he lose his puppy coat and end up a bit curly boy? I'm absolutely besotted with him. He's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. I seen his sister from the same litter and she is full curls, typical cockapoo. It doesn't really matter what he looks like but I'm so curious if they change as they get older! X

Ahh sorry. I think you misread my post. There isn't any worries, purely curiosity. Very happy with my wee mongrel.

Hes very handsome!
Youve no real idea what your going to end up with, id even argue thats more exiting than knowing what he will grow into!
How old is he?

He's 14 weeks! Yeah it is quite exciting. I lack patience 😂 his paws are HUGE

My cockerpoo mum and dad are both cockerpoos.

There’s often a misunderstanding / erroneous assumption with crossbreeding in general that the offspring will be a perfect 50:50 mix of both parents. In reality, more often than not you’ll get some strongly resembling one parent while others resemble the other.

Very cute puppy OP (and personally I prefer spanielly-looking dogs to poodley ones, but that’s just my preference).

It's such a gamble with cross breeds my mix breed is colour wise a tri border collie looks like her mum, but her body is 100% her dad a Cardigan corgi
Her brothers and sisters however seem to be either much bigger border lookalikes but still shorter than average or clones of their dad

Either way he is such a cutie

I have two doggos of the same mix. They’re completely different in looks and personality. But I love them both dearly 😆

He's just a smooth cockapoo. Google it.

I have a curly pure spaniel. His mum was a curly show cocker so he's god his mad fur from her, and his size from dad. Yours just got the smoother coat gene.

(Spaniels are the best, BTW 😁)

He's absolutely gorgeous, op, and he has a very kissable head.

My spaniel looks very different now to how he looked as a puppy. His mum is a springer and his dad's a cocker and as a puppy he looked all cocker apart from a slightly wider head/face. He's now 2 yrs old and pretty much all springer apart from his colour; he's all chocolate (no white patches), but everything else from looks to character is springer. His coat has gone from short and smooth to long and wavy/shaggy, so they do change.

I have puppy envy. he is scrumptious.

Just buy a cocker spaniel then.

@fourelementary why would you consider the puppy to look like a spaniel mix? Looks just like my kc reg cocker spaniel at that age. Like @Bluebells1970 he’s a working cocker and barely sheds fur at all.

My older cocker often gets mistaken for a 'poo' because he is curly - but only developed curls about a year post-castration. They do change - he's also just discovered his voice age 8! You should probably worry more whether his personality is cocker or poo - both lovely but determines how you should train them!

Oh and yours is GORGEOUS chap!

I clicked thinking it would be about a constipated dog 😆

You can get a DNA test to check what mix he really is. Do you have a pic of the mum? very cute.

Whatever exact percentages he is, you lucked out with those ears!

I bet they smell gorgeous, too!

Thanks so much for the nice comments!

Even though he's still looking really spaniel, his side profile looks more poodle.

See when their adult coats come though, does it start on the back right in the middle? He's shedding loads and the strip down his spine is becoming a more coarse texture, with a very gentle wave.

I grew up with Rottweilers and GS. Definitely a more predictable outcome with them!

I didn't get a photo but she was a lovely natured girl. She looked like this. I found on Google

Hahaha yeah they do! ☺️

Hi.
i have just bought a Cavapoo.. hes got the straightest hair ever.. are you able to show your puppy?? Mine is apparently mixed with a miniature poodle and a kind charlers but looks like a miniature golden retriever!

Glad to read he’s not constipated. He’s adorable!

F1 crosses are more predictable than other generations, because they definitely get genes from both breeds, whereas f2 and subsequent generations, the genes have an opportunity to jumble up so that offspring can look much more like one breed or the other. He’s a lovely puppy, but he does look much more like a cocker spaniel than you’d usually expect from an F1 cross. I wonder whether either he wasn’t actually an F1, but his mum also had a bit of spaniel in her, or whether she wasn’t actually his mum at all. Unfortunately there are now plenty of unscrupulous people who sell trafficked puppies with ‘stooge’ mums to reassure people who know they should ask to see the puppy with its mother. Hopefully that’s not the case here and you know for sure he was bred where you saw him.

Genetic inheritance doesn’t quite work like that, it’s not the case that F1 crosses are a nice even blend of both breeds’ traits. Dominance and recession of respective genes has a huge part to play and isn’t evenly distributed. If anything it’s not unusual to find more variation in F1s. That’s why it takes generations of breeding to “fix” a breed to a certain standard, selecting the offspring closest to the desired end result from which to breed the next generation.

@BenCoopersSupportWren It generally is the case that F1 crosses between two stable lines, such as pure breeds, are more consistent in their appearance than subsequent generations. This was true even of Mendel’s peas. See this Wikipedia article for a fair overview of why. I can provide plenty of further references or a fuller explanation if you’d like - I don’t want to be an arse, but I do work in this field. I just tried to explain it to the OP briefly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_hybrid

Pure breeding happens when people want to select for certain consistent characteristics and to prevent the variation that crops up in the F2 and subsequent generations. The F1 generation of a cross will often look as uniform as a pure breed, but then the F2 generation can show a really wide range of attributes. So they don’t breed true generation after generation without selection, which is why cockerpoo people make a point of saying whether it’s F1 or not, because it affects what you’re likely to get. The only time you know for sure if a cockerpoo is 50-50 cocker/poodle with equal contributions from both breeds is if it is an F1 with two pure bred parents. An F2 could by chance have much more of one parent or the other in its genome and could therefore look much more like either original breed.

I stumbled upon your post, and straight away I thought your dog had an uncanny resemblance to my wonderful Smooth Poo! Scrolled down and saw that his father’s photo is exactly the same!!
We collected ours 3 days after your initial post.

can tell you that when we went for his 2nd jag we meet 3 others from the litter on the same day and they were all curly.

Did get to see the mother and she was a larger white poodle or potentially a Cockapoo herself.

not disappointed that he isn’t curly, he turns heads everyday, has a wonderful friendly nature, love him to bits……my partner often remarks when we see a curly “that’s what you should be like”..