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Who knows about French Bulldogs?

111 replies

sugarplumfairy28 · 16/11/2022 11:02

So a little bit of background. I have had dogs before, a Westie and a miniature Dachshund. My sausage was a typical sausage, stubborn, difficult to train, high prey drive, took forever to toilet train him, in comparison my Westie was easy. My Westie died nearly 4 years ago, and my sausage died last year. Aged 13 and 14 respectively.

We do have cats, and children, and our daughter has special needs. I miss having the dogs, and I feel like I have fallen into a depression without them. I feel stupid going for a walk alone, I don't like talking to myself and I miss that unconditional love. The dogs were my escape, my 'excuse' for me time.

We did a huge amount of research for a new dog, something friendly, trainable, good with other animals, family dog. We came up with a Bernese Mountain Dog. We found a breeder who said all the right things, and we went and got him. Honestly it was a nightmare. This poor puppy had never lived around people, never lived inside, and he was so incredibly stressed. He was biting us and not in a playful way, bit our daughters face twice, would grab her hair and not let go, he was incredibly destructive, the only time he was happy was outside in a kennel on his own, he became aggressive towards my husband and was snarling at him. The only thing we could do was return him to the breeder, which was heart breaking.

Now, we still want a dog but are still taken aback by what happened earlier this year. Our first instinct is to go back to a smaller dog, and we have done a ton of research and a French Bulldog keeps coming out on top. Family dogs, low grooming needs, smart enough for basic training, good with kids and other animals and affectionate. Does anyone have any real life experience? Can anyone give me an insight on what reality looks like with a Frenchie? I know about the health risks, but in a practical sense what do you look for?

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Nap1983 · 16/11/2022 11:09

To be honest they are a car crash of a breed. Multiple health issues the main one is the can’t actually breathe. Every one I’ve know have been pretty untrained and very stubborn. Oh and their average life span is 4.5…

caffelattetogo · 16/11/2022 11:11

So many medical issues. I'd go for another westie or a border terrier.

theemmadilemma · 16/11/2022 11:13

Frenchies are lovely dogs, but they got so popular they've been badly bred by a lot of people.

Unless you're willing to research lineage and pay top dollar for a very respectable breeder I would stay away.

caffelattetogo · 16/11/2022 11:13

Or, if you want something bigger, a spaniel. Cocker or springer, not King Charles (again, medical issues).

currahee · 16/11/2022 11:15

I completely understand your reasoning for wanting another dog and I’m very sorry for your losses. However, if you say you know about the health issues and are still planning to get one, I’m not sure there’s anything else to say. They are born to suffer because of their shape and appearance - BOAS and spinal deformities are not minor health issues, they are debilitating and life-shortening conditions.

Ylvamoon · 16/11/2022 11:17

Sadly, there is a lot of poor breeding due to popularity. The results are poor health.

There are so many healthier small dog breeds out there that are suitable for families.

Rachaelrachael · 16/11/2022 11:17

I used to be a dog walker and walked a few frenchies. One couldn't be walked once the te

viques · 16/11/2022 11:18

If you know about the health risks why would you want to subject a dog to poor health for its short life? How would you like to be constantly gasping for breath? How are you going to explain to your children that the dog will only live a few years before it dies, are you going to let them think that deliberately buying a dog with built in obsolescence is OK, and that it’s fine to view dogs as consumables to be replaced when they fail?

If people didn’t choose to own these poor creatures then the breeders wouldn’t carry on churning them out.

HobnobsChoice · 16/11/2022 11:18

Cockers and Springers need a lot of exercise and stimulation. Ideally walking twice a day and then other stimulation/activity in between. Otherwise they are just full of pent up energy and frustrated. My sister in laws springer needed an hour walk morning and night plus toys at home to keep him from literally leaping off the walls and furniture. If you have a busy life or lots of commitments they aren't the best dog

Rachaelrachael · 16/11/2022 11:19

Sorry posted too early! One couldn't be walked once the temp got about 18c as he couldn't breathe and would collapse. They didn't

Threadkillacilla · 16/11/2022 11:19

My friend has 3. She's at the vet weekly, has to buy hypoallergenic food, constant medications and they all need surgery to breath better as they age. I'm not exaggerating it's constant skin problems. They can't travel in the car can't be walked far and (shockingly) have a life expectancy of only 5. Can you afford it both financially and emotionally?

Rachaelrachael · 16/11/2022 11:20

Aaarh sorry!! Didn't listen to commands and just quite aloof. That would be the last breed I'd choose

Beggingforsleep · 16/11/2022 11:21

It sounds like you want a really reliable dog and you’re not put off my big dogs so why not just go for a golden retriever? Good with everyone and easy to train. If you don’t go for a working type then they should settle in to a solid family dog really quickly.

upfucked · 16/11/2022 11:22

Their life expectancy is about 5 years. That’s absolutely shocking for a dog.

countrygirl99 · 16/11/2022 11:24

Vets know a lot about Frenchirs as they see them so often. They are very expensive to insure because they have so many health problems.

Slanty · 16/11/2022 11:25

Why would you pay money to a breeder to breed a puppy who is very likely going to spend most of its life smothering?

LesClaypoolsHat · 16/11/2022 11:26

Poor frenchies. It should be illegal to breed them.

Activelyannoyed · 16/11/2022 11:26

Please don’t do this, please, they on average live 4 years, they can’t breathe. Designer dogs who are bred so their deformities look cute but they can’t survive is a heinous practice. Please don’t buy into this.

CharlesChihuahua · 16/11/2022 11:26

My honest opinion?

  1. None of what is mentioned is only applicable to frenchies:

Family dogs
Most breeds now are bred to be ‘family’ dogs

low grooming needs
They are short haired granted so don’t need trims, regular de sheds etc but a lot of short coated dogs shed a LOT which may be something to consider.
In case, there’s stacks and stacks of short coated breeds to choose from

smart enough for basic training
Pretty much all dogs

good with kids and other animals
Pretty much all dogs are friendly to their own kids and animals.

Strangers, that’s more breed dependant and there will be individual variation but while I wouldn’t expect a frenchie to be aloof and naturally suspicious, I also wouldn’t typically class a frenchie as a super gregarious stranger social breed, that would be more likely to be your gun dogs like goldens and cockers and poodles in my opinion and experience.

affectionate
Most dogs are affectionate.

  1. The health problems in Frenchies are horrendous. I would go so far as to say outright torture breeding. I don’t think they should be bred in their current form.

The obvious problems from the flat face - stenotic nares (slit nostrils) and overlong soft palettes so they can’t breathe comfortably, low exercise tolerance, high risk of heat exhaustion, they can’t even sleep comfortably without snoring (healthy dogs are silent when sleeping), some of them can’t even walk without snuffling (again, healthy dogs don’t ‘snuffle’ - it’s a sign of respiratory distress), high risk of choking, tooth and gum problems are common.

But also eye problems, skin irritation from excessive wrinkles.

They tend to have spinal problems aswell and that cute corkscrew tail is an actual deformity called hemivertibrae with its own set of issues.
High risk of patella luxation due to the bow legged stance.
High risk of hip dysplasia.

Their life expectancy is typically shocking, think I read it’s about 6.

Some breeders abroad are producing frenchies with tails and muzzled and I have no issue with them but I think it’s cruel to buy one in its current form no matter how cool you might think they look or how nice you think their temperament may be.

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 16/11/2022 11:26

Don't get a French Bulldog. In your shoes I'd get another Westie.

makemeamum · 16/11/2022 11:27

Me!
I have a frenchie bred more like they are supposed to look like. She has a pointy face, round nostrils and no health issues.

My other frenchie has a flat face, slim nostrils and lots of health problems.

The difference in the dogs is incredible and so sad

BlackandJello · 16/11/2022 11:29

My frenchie is 2 and the only time we have been at the vet is when she got her dew claw stuck on something and half ripped it out Hmm. She has no health issues at all.

She has walked 8 miles on a walk before and been absolutely fine. I know some of them are bred badly but there are good breeders out there who put the health of the dog first.

She's so well natured, brilliant with my dc. She will chase rabbits if she sees them whilst out on a walk but other than that she's perfectly trained too. My 10 yr old DD even does agility with her.

Kastri · 16/11/2022 11:30

Beggingforsleep · 16/11/2022 11:21

It sounds like you want a really reliable dog and you’re not put off my big dogs so why not just go for a golden retriever? Good with everyone and easy to train. If you don’t go for a working type then they should settle in to a solid family dog really quickly.

Please dont go for a Frenchie,its perpetuating the greedy breeders to carry on.
Golden retrievers are great family dogs.

WinterDeWinter · 16/11/2022 11:34

For the dog, it feels like having really bad asthma would be for a human - awful on a day to day level and sometimes really terrifying. I would never encourage the suffering of the breed by buying and - if I'm honest - I would massively judge someone who did. You sound as though you are thinking about 'health risks' in terms of the possible vets bills - but have not considered that poor health means the animal is suffering, in pain, in panic.

AlwaysLatte · 16/11/2022 11:36

They'll hopefully be outlawed one day. Breeding in defects is just cruel. Someone in our village has one and it sounds like she's walking a warthog.

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