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Neighbour with bully dog always off lead?

27 replies

FreshCop · 04/11/2022 18:08

Neighbour in apartment building always lets her American bulldog off the leash; when it sees you, it charges over and jumps on you.

She laughs and acts unaware, thinking the dog is her child.

My daughter has been knocked over by it three times so far, and the most recent time it nipped her nose, not breaking the skin but making it red and she looked really frightened and shaken up.

She made me carry her inside our apartment today because she was afraid to come home from school and see the dog.

The dog scratched the child's mother yesterday and also jumped on another toddler, knocking her over.

Although the dog is still a puppy, it is already strong, and no one has ever seen it with the lead.

What can we do to get this woman to give the dog a lead? If the breed is not prohibited, will the police take any action?

The woman is tiny and can’t control the dog, plus she has an autistic child living in that property.

Please give me tips on how to make her change her behaviour.

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AlwaysBloodyWorrying · 04/11/2022 18:20

You can't fix stupid

rightkindofwrongg · 04/11/2022 18:27

Report to the dog warden & 101

bjjgirl · 04/11/2022 18:28

Report to housing and the police, dangerously out of control

FreshCop · 04/11/2022 19:27

Report to the dog warden & 101

I probably sound stupid here but how should I put it to them so she is forced to put it on a lead? and I do understand she hasn’t “broken any laws” apart from being a nuisance and can say her dog was just excitable and thought it was playing.

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FreshCop · 04/11/2022 19:29

Can I submit a tip anonymously to Crime Stoppers as well? She might no longer want to deal with the authorities as a result of the investigation experience, which would free us from having to put up with her and her nonsense.

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Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 04/11/2022 19:30

She has broken the law though. Lack of control over your ddog in public is an offence..

GrazingSheep · 04/11/2022 19:31

Report it to the police.
Hopefully, given the number of people who have died as a result of being attacked by American bullies, they will take action.

Mommabear20 · 04/11/2022 19:36

Definitely report to the police, via non emergency line.
It's an offence to not have control of your dog in public. It's jumping on people and causing harm, whether intentional harm or not is still harm, and she as the owner is responsible for any injuries and can be charged by law as in that case the dog would be seen as a weapon.

FreshCop · 04/11/2022 19:37

Report it to the police.
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Hopefully, given the number of people who have died as a result of being attacked by American bullies, they will take action.

Exactly, I’m sick of her shit, she always laughs and looks at her dog so proudly when it interacts with people.

The dog has really menacing eyes too. It doesn’t look happy at all and very intimidating posture.

it’s knocked my daughter over and another toddler in this building. Me and the other family are also both dog owners but ours are kept under control and have never jumped on kids.

it’s making this stop right now before something bad happens.

I feel she is also doing it for attention as she has no one to speak to and is regularly seen just wearing her dressing gown. Hopefully having a visit from police and her wondering who has reported her will make her sort herself out cause it’s just so selfish of her to behave this way.

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drpet49 · 04/11/2022 19:38

rightkindofwrongg · 04/11/2022 18:27

Report to the dog warden & 101

This. I wouldn’t let a child anywhere near those dogs. They are so dangerous.

FreshCop · 04/11/2022 19:41

I was thinking to report her to NSPCC also as she has dog poo all over her outdoor area. So she can also have a visit from them too.

Hopefully shaking her up enough that she relents and puts a lead on the dog and even go to dog training classes.

Just makes you wonder what goes on in these peoples head.

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Bananalanacake · 04/11/2022 19:49

Why an American Bulldog and not a Pomeranian.

Ragwort · 04/11/2022 19:50

Who owns the apartments? Are they rented or is it leasehold? Check your lease.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 04/11/2022 19:52

I’d report the bite even if it wasn’t “serious”.

FreshCop · 04/11/2022 19:55

I’d report the bite even if it wasn’t “serious”.

Yes, regarding the above - I am fuming! If I don’t do something it will be my fault for letting this continue.

What will the follow up be? If I see her again and it isn’t on a lead call the dog warden?

I’m thinking to be a bit vague in what I report so she doesn’t know specifically it was me.

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Ragwort · 04/11/2022 20:09

Just report - imagine if the dog injures (or worse) a child ?

FreshCop · 04/11/2022 20:16

I'm relieved that others agree with me because I was beginning to wonder if I was going too far and if I shouldn't talk to her first. But I firmly believe that you shouldn't speak to someone like her, and I also don't want any trouble.

it’s been to keep these things formal, written down and keep a diary I think.

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ItsJustASimpleLine · 04/11/2022 20:21

Have your phone recording video when you're entering and leaving the building so you have evidence.

GettingItOutThere · 04/11/2022 20:26

report her today 101 and to the dog warden

dog out of control as a puppy, imagine as a big adult dog , it will kill someone

i really dislike these big XL bullies. bred for one type of person only

FreshCop · 04/11/2022 20:30

Have your phone recording video when you're entering and leaving the building so you have evidence.

Definately decided I’ll be doing this now. Thanks* *

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CrazyDogLady2022 · 06/11/2022 14:17

FreshCop · 04/11/2022 19:27

Report to the dog warden & 101

I probably sound stupid here but how should I put it to them so she is forced to put it on a lead? and I do understand she hasn’t “broken any laws” apart from being a nuisance and can say her dog was just excitable and thought it was playing.

She is breaking the law. It is against the law to have a dangerously out of control dog in a public (or private) space.

’dangerously out of control’ includes making someone worried that it may injure then, which is your daughter.

I would speak to the woman and explain this if you feel able and/or report to the dog warden. There is an unlimited fine for this offence or a prison sentence.

SurpriseWombat · 06/11/2022 15:12

Apartment building management is likely to be far quicker and more effective than going to the police about a legal breed acting obnoxiously but not aggressively.

Are you both owners or renters, and is there a pets clause in the lease?

ThingsIhavelearnt · 06/11/2022 15:13

bjjgirl · 04/11/2022 18:28

Report to housing and the police, dangerously out of control

This and report the bite to the police as well

FreshCop · 06/11/2022 15:21

She is breaking the law. It is against the law to have a dangerously out of control dog in a public (or private) space.
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’dangerously out of control’ includes making someone worried that it may injure then, which is your daughter.
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I would speak to the woman and explain this if you feel able and/or report to the dog warden. There is an unlimited fine for this offence or a prison sentence.

I’ve reported to the police who visited her that evening. As there was no visible signs of injury on my daughter they didn’t take photos.

I’m actually scared to confront her over this as I don’t want problems with someone who lives in the same building as me.

After visiting the dog they police also called the dog warden to update him so all those people have been informed.

I think I should submit a complaint to the building management now? If I see it off the lead ever again? I just need to stay on top of this.

The police have given her a “friendly talking to” suggesting she puts the lead on as some neighbours may be a little scared - they thought this was the best thing initially to give her a little hint of what they’re requesting.

Apparently she had no clue who it could be and was saying to the police “was it someone on this floor?” And “but everyone has dogs in this building!”

They didn’t make anything obvious it was me making a complaint… I haven’t seen her since.

If I see anything again I’ll be onto the dog warden and the building management? Or maybe I’ll get onto that now.

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FreshCop · 06/11/2022 15:22

I’m sure there is a clause on the lease that says “having dogs is for their discretion” or something along those lines.

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