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Help us chose our first dog

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MrsPicklesonSmythe · 21/10/2022 22:10

Having never been a dog person, over the last year I've become bit of a fan of other people's pet pooches and can't stop thinking about having one. I think it would be a great addition to the family, good for my mental health and despite showering affection on my cat let's face it, he'll never love me! 😂

We are currently in a rental but would like to adopt a dog when we are in a better position to do so. Maybe in a years time.

I work nights part time, dh works full time from home and we have 3 ds's 17, 11 and 4 who would love a dog, there's always someone home and we rarely go away (last time 6 years ago!). We don't have much of a garden and I'm guessing we won't have a huge one in the next house but they'd have at least two 30 min walks a day (is that enough?) and we do have plenty of lovely places for longer weekend walks close by. I'd also sign us straight up to a good local trainer and there's loads of groomers and vets locally.

I am fairly allergy prone, never specifically to dogs though just dust, pollen etc

In my research Havanese seem to look a good option.

Does anyone have any experience or could you help me consider some other small/medium-sized family dogs suitable for first time owners?

Any advice much appreciated as we won't go into it lightly

OP posts:
Klank · 22/10/2022 08:42

Our Maltese with our cat.

He is fine with 2 x 30min walks. As you can see, he is a very small dog 😄

Help us chose our first dog
Sunbird24 · 22/10/2022 08:49

I have a friend who’s a registered Havanese breeder, can point you at her FB page if you drop me a PM. They’re a lovely family, the dogs are very well looked after and the puppies sometimes come to the group thing I know her through for socialisation, we all love those days!

Anydaynowonewouldhope · 22/10/2022 09:12

@Klank ❤️🐶

thelobsterquadrille · 22/10/2022 09:14

I really wouldn't recommend a greyhound.

Yes, some are fine on the fabled 2x20 minute walks a day but many are not. They are racing dogs and need to run, but many aren't safe off lead as they will chase (and potentially kill) small furries. Many have never lived in homes before and aren't toilet trained or house trained in any way. They also have sensitive stomachs which can be an issue when it comes to diet.

All the ones I meet on walks can't be let off the lead and they're incredibly nervous of people and other dogs (probably because they were all raised around greyhounds and nothing else).

If you can only offer short walks I would go for a companion breed like a Maltese, a bolognese or a Bichon.

thelobsterquadrille · 22/10/2022 09:15

MidnightConstellation · 22/10/2022 07:12

Greyhounds, or a lurcher. As above. Don’t need a lot of exercise , are not high energy generally and don’t shed a lot.

She has a cat!

A greyhound or a lurched would be an awful decision.

WizardOfUK · 22/10/2022 09:17

If you're allergy prone then something like a poodle or poodle X, there are plenty of charities out there bursting at the seams with rescue dogs now the Covid bubble has burst.

FistFullOfRegrets · 22/10/2022 09:20

romdowa · 22/10/2022 06:47

Do not get a cockerpoo! I'm an experienced dog owner and my cockerpoo puppy is very hard work , Highh energy, very vocal and very destructive

One dog.

hardly broad experience of the cross to demonise the whole 'breed'. I know plenty of well behaved, easily trained, no fuss cockerpoos.

FistFullOfRegrets · 22/10/2022 09:29

Notjusta · 22/10/2022 07:49

I'm pretty sure you won't be able to get a rescue OP - not if you have a child and a cat and a small garden. Also I am not sure a greyhound and a cat would be a good combo.

My friend rescued one. She had an 8yo, was pregnant & had 2 cats!

the only issue they had was the dog could not be 'off lead' or it would run & run & run. They had to be careful it didn't get out the front door!

romdowa · 22/10/2022 09:32

FistFullOfRegrets · 22/10/2022 09:20

One dog.

hardly broad experience of the cross to demonise the whole 'breed'. I know plenty of well behaved, easily trained, no fuss cockerpoos.

I'm in a massive group with over 20, 000 people who own the breed and the experienced is pretty common. They are known for being excitable, suffer from separation anxiety and to be destructive. I'm not demonising the breed, merely pointing out that they aren't a great "first dog" , as they take a lot of work.

MaraScottie · 22/10/2022 09:35

Fenella123 · 21/10/2022 23:06

As an alternative to poodle, I've had greyhounds for years and they don't set off my allergies whereas most other breeds do. Big dogs physically but small on the inside, many are pretty much sofa cushions with legs.

This. Greyhounds are fantastic pets and do really well in small hones. They live routine so 2 30 minute walks is ideal. Quiet and clean too.

outtheshowernow · 22/10/2022 09:42

Greyhound. So many needing a home. Lovely natured dogs. No bark no smell. Love to sleep. Lovely all round dog

outtheshowernow · 22/10/2022 09:44

Sunbird24 · 22/10/2022 08:49

I have a friend who’s a registered Havanese breeder, can point you at her FB page if you drop me a PM. They’re a lovely family, the dogs are very well looked after and the puppies sometimes come to the group thing I know her through for socialisation, we all love those days!

Rescue. Don't encourage more breeding

twistyizzy · 22/10/2022 09:51

MrsPicklesonSmythe · 21/10/2022 22:10

Having never been a dog person, over the last year I've become bit of a fan of other people's pet pooches and can't stop thinking about having one. I think it would be a great addition to the family, good for my mental health and despite showering affection on my cat let's face it, he'll never love me! 😂

We are currently in a rental but would like to adopt a dog when we are in a better position to do so. Maybe in a years time.

I work nights part time, dh works full time from home and we have 3 ds's 17, 11 and 4 who would love a dog, there's always someone home and we rarely go away (last time 6 years ago!). We don't have much of a garden and I'm guessing we won't have a huge one in the next house but they'd have at least two 30 min walks a day (is that enough?) and we do have plenty of lovely places for longer weekend walks close by. I'd also sign us straight up to a good local trainer and there's loads of groomers and vets locally.

I am fairly allergy prone, never specifically to dogs though just dust, pollen etc

In my research Havanese seem to look a good option.

Does anyone have any experience or could you help me consider some other small/medium-sized family dogs suitable for first time owners?

Any advice much appreciated as we won't go into it lightly

Not many breeds could cope either only 2 x 30 min walks per day. Definitely avoid any working breeds such as cocker spaniels etc as they would not be satisfied with such little outdoor activity.

Suzi888 · 22/10/2022 09:53

Consider a rescue rather than a puppy. Puppies are hard work.

StillSmallVoice · 22/10/2022 09:53

Greyhounds do have a prey drive, but they are happy on a lead and the prey drive has lessened over time. Ours get three twenty minute walks a day and isn't bothered if she misses one.

They are big, but my DS keeps one in a two up two down and is fine.

They do sleep a lot and the very expressive ears are adorable.

As others have said, there are a lot of them needing adoption.

twistyizzy · 22/10/2022 09:54

FistFullOfRegrets · 22/10/2022 09:20

One dog.

hardly broad experience of the cross to demonise the whole 'breed'. I know plenty of well behaved, easily trained, no fuss cockerpoos.

And equally there are a lot who end up in rescues for eg resource guarding etc. The problem with cockapoos etc is that fundamentally they are mongrels and you have no way of knowing how much cocker Vs poodle is in them. Both of these breeds can have anxiety/behaviour issues and they aren't being bred for their temperaments, only because they are fashionable. Hence we are seeing a lot with behavioural issues that inexperienced dog owners don't know how to prevent/handle.

SheWoreYellow · 22/10/2022 09:54

A few greyhounds are tested as cat safe.

quiteinfuriating · 22/10/2022 09:56

Fenella123 · 21/10/2022 23:06

As an alternative to poodle, I've had greyhounds for years and they don't set off my allergies whereas most other breeds do. Big dogs physically but small on the inside, many are pretty much sofa cushions with legs.

This. I wish everyone would get a greyhound. I'll never have another breed

thelobsterquadrille · 22/10/2022 09:56

SheWoreYellow · 22/10/2022 09:54

A few greyhounds are tested as cat safe.

I wouldn't trust any rescue that claimed that of any greyhound or sighthound tbh.

Cat safe around...what? A cat in someone's house who's used to a steady stream of dogs and so doesn't run? Kittens? An elderly cat? Cats on walks?

My own dog lives with cats but he would 100% chase one on a walk if he was off the lead.

I also know quite a few people with "cat safe" rescues who turned out to be anything but.

Luckydip1 · 22/10/2022 09:58

Maltipoo could be a good option.

quiteinfuriating · 22/10/2022 09:59

Pidgythe2nd · 22/10/2022 07:43

You’ll get loads of people on here saying grey hounds, and there are many in rescues.
Sadly the ones I know near me (through a dog walker) have a high prey drive so are never let off lead (unless in a contained area that is hired), and need to be muzzled. There are a few owned by someone less careful that have hunted deer and other dogs. Ensure you have the full picture.

I’d also recommend a poodle, or a mumsnet dreaded poodle cross breed (with a high % of poodle whee they’ve crossed back to the poodle line). If you go for a cross breed ensure that both parent’s lines are health tested and traceable as with a pure bred. Poodles are smart, friendly, & energetic. Ours has been easy to train and has the sweetest personality (fun, gentle, confident, playful) . Being smart means they do need to be entertained with brain games, and ours can be a little too smart/ cheeky sometimes, but that’s part of the appeal. They are high energy but ours is trained to ‘relax’/ settle inside and she sleeps a lot during the day if we’re in and out. Personally I’d not leave her more than 4 hours, she likes company, but she’s quite happy being left for up to 3-4 hours. Regular grooming is needed. Ours can be picky with food (likes variety), but I was used to labs who inhale food! This way is probably more healthy as she’s healthy weight.

I asked the rescue for a non-racer. She has no prey drive and walks beautifully off lead. She was under 2 when we got her and is the perfect pet.
I think adopting an ex racer is quite different to a non-racer.
Another non-racer I know lives with a house rabbit!

Etinoxaurus · 22/10/2022 09:59

Rescue. Always rescue 💔

quiteinfuriating · 22/10/2022 10:03

thelobsterquadrille · 22/10/2022 09:14

I really wouldn't recommend a greyhound.

Yes, some are fine on the fabled 2x20 minute walks a day but many are not. They are racing dogs and need to run, but many aren't safe off lead as they will chase (and potentially kill) small furries. Many have never lived in homes before and aren't toilet trained or house trained in any way. They also have sensitive stomachs which can be an issue when it comes to diet.

All the ones I meet on walks can't be let off the lead and they're incredibly nervous of people and other dogs (probably because they were all raised around greyhounds and nothing else).

If you can only offer short walks I would go for a companion breed like a Maltese, a bolognese or a Bichon.

1 x 30 min walk a day. Refuses to go if it's raining.
See my previous comment about non-racers and ex-racers.
Some are cat friendly.
Ours had never lived in a house. Didn't know what carpet or stairs were. She took a little while to come out of her shell but all it needed was love and patience. Yes she had the odd accident but not often.
We take her for a short walk before we have to leave her as she will reliably toilet then. We have a camera on her when we're out. She just sleeps on the sofa.
Not all greyhounds are the same.
Feel free to pm

SheWoreYellow · 22/10/2022 10:15

thelobsterquadrille · 22/10/2022 09:56

I wouldn't trust any rescue that claimed that of any greyhound or sighthound tbh.

Cat safe around...what? A cat in someone's house who's used to a steady stream of dogs and so doesn't run? Kittens? An elderly cat? Cats on walks?

My own dog lives with cats but he would 100% chase one on a walk if he was off the lead.

I also know quite a few people with "cat safe" rescues who turned out to be anything but.

It doesn’t need to be safe against cats on walks. We’re talking about the OP owning a cat.
We have two greyhounds and have had a cat. I see photos of cats and greyhounds chilling together on my FB feed.
I agree, it’s not the norm, but they are out there.

thelobsterquadrille · 22/10/2022 11:09

SheWoreYellow · 22/10/2022 10:15

It doesn’t need to be safe against cats on walks. We’re talking about the OP owning a cat.
We have two greyhounds and have had a cat. I see photos of cats and greyhounds chilling together on my FB feed.
I agree, it’s not the norm, but they are out there.

As a cat owner, I'm afraid it's just not a risk I would take. They were here first.

I do agree that they don't need to be cat safe on walks, but greyhounds are big, fast dogs so you need to make sure you can control them if they have a strong prey drive and spot a cat while out and about.

I've seen dogs pull their owners over trying to get to cats/squirrels/rabbits - it's something worth thinking about.

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