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My dog bit someone, don’t know what to do

48 replies

Worldofwindows · 01/09/2022 12:30

We adopted a rescue dog 2.5 years ago, she was just over 1 at the time from a reputable rescue. No reported aggression and none displayed when she was assessed at the rescue either towards other dogs or humans. She was handed in as apparently she could be kept in the flat she was living in and she wasn’t being given enough exercise and left alone all day with the result that she was destructive. She is a mix of two fairly high energy breeds. The advice was to slowly socialise and train which is what we did. With structure and physical and mental enrichment we never saw any ‘bad’ behaviours from her although she did from time to time tell off other dogs for getting up in her business, usually if she was on lead. We would avoid those situations so as not to prompt any such reaction but in any event it was always a measured telling off.

She has regularly attended a local daycare who slowly built her up and worked with her. They are a good team with what I think is a good mix of qualifications and experience. She has loved going and aside from the odd report of grumpiness we’ve never had any issues until last week. It seems that she was snuggling with one of the handlers when another dog approach and she and/or the other dog became jealous and ran snapping at the other dog. We’ve never seen her do that or display any other jealous behaviour, we have a 12 month old puppy at home as well and she’s never really cared when he’s had attention nor has she displayed any aggression towards him and he has had his annoying puppy moments.

The handler intervened and it seems tried to grab her and she turned around and but them without any other warning such as a growl or snap. Needless to say she can no longer attend.

We don’t know what to do. Although we work mostly out of the home daycare is a big help to us and we would never have got a second dog if we didn’t think she was comfortable there and with other dogs. I’m also concerned that we may never go anywhere like a couple of days away or even an evening out without worrying what might happen if she is in kennels or with a sitter. She can be left for a few hrs no problems but we tend to use a sitter for both if we need longer and although it’s not often I feel like we need that time after a few difficult personal years. We also can’t leave her alone all day on the odd days we both need to be in the office.

I’m concerned that a behaviourist may simply say just not to put her in that situation again which doesn’t really help.

I love her so much but I also don’t want to end up living like hermits because she is unpredictable. I’m also worried we did this to her somehow but we’ve always did everything slowly and taken all the advice we’ve had along the way.

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forumsempronii · 01/09/2022 13:57

You havent got a dog with a bite history. You have a dog that reacted normally for a dog and a human who behaved inappropriately (and should have know better).

What has happened to the member of staff what treatment have they received because of the bite?

There is no reason that this needs to follow him around and again Do speak to a behavourist who can make the future seem ok again and show you how to understand your dogs behaviour and what they need. It will be simple to follow.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 01/09/2022 14:10

Like others, my jaw hit the floor at "the handler tried to grab her". Good god, what a wally.

I'm assuming the injury wasn't serious, as you haven't mentioned anything like that? If so, it sounds like your dog displayed excellent bite inhibition and brought herself under control as soon as she realised she'd bitten a human.

My dog's only ever bitten me once, on the leg, when I (accidentally) stepped in between her and her nemesis on a dog walk. It was completely unintentional, and she needed quite a lot of comfort and reassurance afterwards, bless her. Please don't worry about this!

SheWentWest · 01/09/2022 14:17

Apart from the mishandling of the situation by the handler I think the daycare can be horrendously stressful for many dogs.

SirSniffsAlot · 01/09/2022 14:18

If nothing else all the posters on MN in The Doghouse are agreeing so we must be right

This literally never happens. You must be doing something right, OP, for you have achieved the impossible Grin

BackAffYaSpookyBint · 01/09/2022 14:21

I have a rescue dog with a bite history-she bit a child in her previous home. She's absolutely fine with our kids as they give her space and aren't stupid enough to put their hands between two dogs snipping.
I've never used daycare as I just don't agree with all those dogs being monitored by one or two people. I've always used a dog-walker-my dogs get more one to one and they're comfortable in their home. Most walkers are happy to work with nervy dogs, mine found a friend she was happy to walk with but she's kept on-lead.
You should call your kennels and explain what happened but if they know your dog, they'll likely understand it was an isolated incident and definitely the fault of the daycare.

Worldofwindows · 01/09/2022 14:24

My OH said the handler had a plaster on when he went to get her and they said they were fine but there was a puncture wound so it does sound like she broke the skin. The running snapping at the other dog is entirely new, I’ve only ever seen her react if they are right up in her face or her bottom and not to that extreme.

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mountainsunsets · 01/09/2022 14:26

Worldofwindows · 01/09/2022 14:24

My OH said the handler had a plaster on when he went to get her and they said they were fine but there was a puncture wound so it does sound like she broke the skin. The running snapping at the other dog is entirely new, I’ve only ever seen her react if they are right up in her face or her bottom and not to that extreme.

Honestly, stop worrying.

Your dog was in an unnatural situation that many dogs find incredibly stressful. She reacted like any dog would react. It's fine.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 01/09/2022 15:01

Worldofwindows · 01/09/2022 14:24

My OH said the handler had a plaster on when he went to get her and they said they were fine but there was a puncture wound so it does sound like she broke the skin. The running snapping at the other dog is entirely new, I’ve only ever seen her react if they are right up in her face or her bottom and not to that extreme.

Their staff don't know how to handle a straightforward argument between dogs safely, and they've 'expelled' your dog for what sounds like a simple accident. Also, everything they've said about your dog is completely out of character.

I would take their version of events with a pinch of salt, in the circumstances. Even if she did run and snap at another dog, it's quite possible that they misinterpreted what actually happened.

Crazykatie · 01/09/2022 15:13

I’m not sure what doggy daycare entails, ours just stayed in the house until we got back from work. Any dog can get jealous, frightened or aggressive unless it’s handled properly, I’m on your side it was the daycare not handling properly that caused the problem.

My own dog I loved but she wasn’t treated a one of the family, she did not come to the pub or the supermarket and stayed in the house alone while I was at work, it was what she was used to and it was fine.

Sitdowncupoftea · 01/09/2022 15:14

@Worldofwindows
Firstly don't blame your dog. Your dog was in daycare. Personally my experience of daycare is many of the staff are unqualified. Quite often its the owner that has the qualifications as that's all it takes. The staff don't. I had one of my dogs in daycare years ago. He became handshy I did not know why. I caught one of the staff hanging him off the floor in a choke hold and yes I did complain. No way would I trust a day care. If your dog is as you say and it's out the ordinary then it's daycare.

SarahSissions · 01/09/2022 15:50

Daycare is an intense environment and doesn’t really suit many dogs to be honest. In general most dogs are happier left at home with a dog walker popping in to take them out if you need to leave them all day.
kennels should be fine, most only walk dogs with others from their household and are a lot less stimulating than daycare

Worldofwindows · 01/09/2022 16:02

I suppose my concern is that they try to pop her on the lead and handle her badly and she reacts. I feel like we have to warn them really but in doing so we might be cancelling our break. I feel really shit we put in her in this position. I’m thinking of emailing daycare for a breakdown of what they say happened/how she was handled exactly/what it was the other dog did. I was a bit flustered when they called but surely they’d be happy to clarify?

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Middledazedted · 01/09/2022 16:09

I honestly wouldn’t sweat it. Almost any dog can in some situations bite. They are dogs. This isn’t news to kennels and actually they are way less stressful than doggy day care. The handlers were at fault. I have been bit by the dog I have, the one before bit my daughter and my best dog once bit another it met - non were awful bites just how dogs with teeth say leave me alone. In context all made sense for different reasons. Non ever did it twice. The thing h you need to avoid is the handler!

niceaspaella · 01/09/2022 16:09

You have a shit daycare who don’t know or understand dogs
I think you are overacting but I totally understand why. Tell the kennels what happened then go and enjoy your holiday

mountainsunsets · 01/09/2022 16:12

IMO you're just working yourself up into a panic over nothing now.

Take a deep breath. Step away and don't make any rash decisions about cancelling a holiday or relying on the report of a very dodgy-sounding daycare.

Your dog is fine. She was just being a dog. There's no need to self-report her and potentially limit the rest of your lives over this. Really, there isn't.

romdowa · 01/09/2022 16:18

You sound like you are spiralling here a bit. The day care worker was 100% at fault. You never ever break up a dog fight like that. The dog is in the zone and any touch will provoke a reaction.
One bite does not make your dog dangerous, neither does one fight. Take a few deep breaths and try and take a step back from this.

Hoppinggreen · 01/09/2022 16:19

Worldofwindows · 01/09/2022 13:43

I couldn’t see anything like that on their website. I can’t really remember if there was anything on the form to disclose things like this that we filled out when he registered as it was a while ago now. I don’t really want to lie to them or leave them unprepared if she needs a bit more caution while we get to grips with this.

While I wouldn’t lie, I might not volunteer information if it wasn’t a condition of my contract

Hannakl · 01/09/2022 17:05

Surely all dogs bite in certain circumstances, especially if they are around other dogs. It sounds like pretty standard dog behaviour.

Worldofwindows · 01/09/2022 18:11

Thanks all, I know I should be a bit more objective but it’s been a stressful time outside of this. We did decide to let the kennels know and they said it was fine and would note it for her visit. We will probably see a behaviourist just for piece of mind and also because we have another dog in the house to check there are no issues with the dynamic that we aren’t spotting.

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NiceTwin · 01/09/2022 21:50

As a kennel owner, I would be more than happy to take your dogs.
I have a couple in at the moment who bit somebody. It was circumstance that caused him to bite, he shows absolutely no aggression with us.

If your dog goes out with just your puppy, it should be fine. I don't mix dogs, as I really don't want to.be put in a position where I have to get in between fighting dogs.

TheOtherWoman2 · 01/09/2022 22:13

Nothing. Your dog has dealt with it

Impossiblepossibilities · 02/09/2022 08:43

Glad you spoke to the kennels and they were fine about it.

As others have said, the daycare staff member was at fault, but it sounds like the environment itself doesn’t suit your dog, especially with her starting to react to dogs on walks as well. If you think about it, if she’s feeling like her personal space is being constantly invaded at daycare, she is then more likely to tell dogs on walks that approach to eff off before they get the chance.

If you have a look on youtube or facebook for videos of doggie daycare places you can see how these situations are just waiting to happen. There are a couple doing the rounds where a behaviourist points out all the flash points and issues. They are often poorly managed, staffed by untrained, inexperienced, often very young people and wholly unsuitable for the majority of dogs.

I would definitely get a qualified behaviourists assessment, for your own peace of mind and so you can work out what to do with her on work days. It sounds like perhaps a dog walker that takes just her or her and pup on their own might be the way forwards.

Enjoy your break and don’t spend it worrying about your dog, she will be fine. x

Ariela · 02/09/2022 10:05

You may be better with a specific dog walker who comes and takes your dog out for a lengthy walk daily in a small group.

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