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momager1 · 01/08/2022 15:10

May I? a year ago.. I posted about my gorgeous girl giving birth under a breeder contract. I had alot of love for both my breeder (that i have been dealing with for 18 years since our first standard poodle) also had alot of hate against her..which i will refute till the end. we are going on holiday in two weeks and our amazing breeder is taking my mutts...my gorgeous grace that she had the breed contract with and her son oliver.. my cost? bring food. lol. horrible breeder right? taking her dam and offspring for 10 days whilst i am sunning myself on a carribean beach. so many here said my breeder was all about money.. to put both my dogs in boarding for a week would have been almost 600 dollars canadian... my breeder truly is one of the GREAT ONES .. i am dropping my pups off on my way to airport (they go there at least every two weeks with me when we have tea dates) no charge...not just for me...for any of her pups. not all breeders are just about the money..some actually breed to preserve the breed they love.

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SpanishWaterDog · 04/08/2022 19:24

IRememberXanadu · 01/08/2022 15:53

This. They may love dogs, or even just that specific breed, but to them it's a business. If they were told to only do that at cost, I bet they wouldn't. Breeding dogs is a huge business, one that I hope will be subject to much, MUCH stricter legislation very soon.

The vast majority of breeders who really love the breeds they are breeding and show are not doing it for money, or making any money, despite charging for puppies. They aren’t doing it at cost, but at a huge loss.

I show my dogs, I don’t breed. It costs an absolute fortune. More than most hobbies. I have also Health tested my dogs, not for breeding, but because it helps the health statistics for the breed. (A largely healthy breed)

The breeders my dogs are from are the same. One of them has five dogs, only one has ever been used for breeding and has had two litters. Both keep their dogs as pets in the house, very rarely breed and love their dogs as much as any pet owner. They ARE their pets. They aren’t ‘in business’.

people who volume breed, for money, are a completely different kettle of fish.

willowglass · 04/08/2022 19:31

Yeah yeah yeah. Whatever makes you feel better. But you're not fooling me OP.

LoveInNashville · 04/08/2022 20:02

Your breeder exploits animals for cash. And you’re part of the problem.

People that think like you do are either naive or selfish, possibly both.

SarahSissions · 04/08/2022 20:32

I have to say I am very pro getting from a reputable breeder. But I remember your previous post and have to say we differ very much on what we consider to be reputable. Including breeding clauses in bitch contracts is grim- basically she wants lots of litters and can’t even be arsed to look after the dogs herself. A decent breeder will have dogs that are well cared for, and should show or work them to breed from proven dogs not someone else’s family pet.

EdithStourton · 04/08/2022 21:44

The vast majority of breeders who really love the breeds they are breeding and show are not doing it for money, or making any money, despite charging for puppies. They aren’t doing it at cost, but at a huge loss.

I always wonder about this 'huge loss' thing. Honestly, I'm not convinced.

That being said, I don't have a problem with a breeder ending up in pocket at the the end: breeding a litter takes a huge amount of time, energy and angst.

Yes, possibly the best breeders use most of the money they make proving their next dog or dogs in the show ring or in field trials. I don't know about shows, but field trial entry fees aren't that huge. The costs come with the travel, and the B&B stays, and the hours of time you burn off. For the people who trial, it's a hobby and a passion. And when they breed their dogs, you know what they're capable of doing.

Between people who breed like this, and the volume breeders (who, I agree, are crap) are a whole range of people. My older dog was bred by a bloke who clearly couldn't afford to take a huge loss. He could have run to a C-section had one been needed, though. He almost certainly used any money he made to fund his hobby of working his dogs. I have no problem at all with this. He bred some bloody good little dogs, in whom he takes an ongoing interest. KC registered, true to breed type in both looks and behaviour.

I honestly think that while many people have no clue what to look for in a breeder and are taken in by businesses that churn out puppies in poor conditions, other people expect a level of martyrdom from breeders that is just not realistic. Making a profit form a litter of puppies shouldn't be the goal, it shouldn't be a necessity, but I'm pretty sure that my older dog's breeder banked a few grand at the end of eight weeks hard slog. Well, good: he gave his dogs a great life (still does, if his FB is anything to go by), ensured that some excellent canine genetics were passed along, and vetted future owners very conscientiously.

Frequency · 04/08/2022 21:52

The rescue I adopted one of my dogs from minds all of my dogs while I'm away for free. I don't even have to send food, so I'm not understanding what you're getting at OP?

It's quite common for small, indepent rescues to help with pet sitting.

The one I used to work with once went so far as to arrange temporary foster for 2 dogs for a girl who was being made homeless by her LL and they fundraised a deposit for a new house and they assisted her in finding a pet friendly rental and helped her with moving vans etc.

If you insinuating that breeders are somehow better than rescues beacuse some of them might do free pet sitting, you're wrong.

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