Grapes and dogs it's confusing.

[SurreyHillsinspring]

Gave my dogs some grapes two weeks ago for a treat.Found at a day ago they are dangerous for dogs.Its confusing on the web whether they are really dangerous or not.Friend says they are and so does most of the web. But one American dog web site says there harmless .Anyway not giving any more again didn't know they were toxic to dogs

Grapes - and raisins - are toxic.

A lot of dogs can tolerate them. Some dogs will go into toxic shock, which won’t show signs straight away but once apparent us extremely difficult to treat and then those dogs are extremely ill and may not recover.

So all the advice is not to let them eat any, and induce vomiting ASAP if they do accidentally. Because you can’t tell which dogs will be badly affected.

Do you know about other common toxins? Xylitol (artificial sweetener) often found in peanut putter, chocolate, sweetcorn husks/corn on the cob are big ones.

For me it is not worth the risk to find out who is right-I do not give my small dog anything that "might" be poisonous because no dog needs grapes and there are plenty of other things she can have safely.

Why would you risk it????

When I was growing up we used to put my dogs medication into grapes. On advice of the vet.

We don't give any of our dogs now we know they are toxic.

Unlike Chocolate where there is a clear formula on amount, type, weight of dog to determine toxicity, grapes is a massive unknown.

One grape or 100 grapes might be toxic to your dog. You just won't know until they are very very ill and therefore I don't feed mine any as I don't want to risk killing him.

Yes always knew about chocolate and recommend everyone research the others....which I have including plants.

I think it's the bloom on the grapes that can be the problem- and you won't know if any particular grape has it or not. Mind, I'm only going by memory! Might be wrong!

So advisable in future if any grapes eaten by my dog to get his stomach pumped asap or ring the vet for advice.

So advisable in future if any grapes eaten by my dog to get his stomach pumped asap or ring the vet for advice.

Just don't let him near them in the first place. I am a little bit as DD has known and not eaten chocolate or grapes around our dog since little.

Yes really was frightening when I read even one grape can cause renal failure.Is my dog going to be alright long term?Should I keep an eye on any ill effects?

I remember reading that, but also iirc something saying that wasn't the case.

Either way - letting dogs eat grapes or raisins is playing Russian Roulette. Just don't let the dog have them, same as you're careful not to leave chocolate within their reach.

It is very variable..Our Whippet puppy stole a bunch of grapes and I took her to vets a few hours later {4} after looking online about how deadly they can be in some dogs.
Thankfully she was ok, but £280 for emetic and blood tests and charcoal meds.

Raisins are even more dangerous.

They can cause kidney failure in some dogs.

My dog may not have ingested any, just mouthed them, {They looked through her vomit}

Hopefully your dog will be OK, but no more grapes or raisins.

Vets aren't sure what the toxic agent is. Yet.

Definitely toxic. Avoid.
Not yet known why they're toxic and why some dogs react while others don't.

No-one actually knows why grapes are toxic. Some dogs can eat bunches of grapes all of their lives and be fine. Others can eat one grape and suffer renal failure. Some can eat grapes without any ill effect for years and then suddenly become very ill after eating one.

The current thinking is there is a bacteria or fungus in a smal amount grapes which is toxic to dogs, although this has never been proven. As there is no way of knowing which grapes are effected it is best to be cautious. A dog who had eaten grapes will likely be absolutely fine. Only a very small number of grapes appear to have this effect.

Keep an eye out for any signs your dog is unwell and contact a vet asap if they start showing signs of even mild illness after eating grapes. The quicker treatment is started the more effective it will be.

It'll be too late now, as the grapes will have done damage by now..
NOT ALL dogs get kidney damage, but a friend's elderly dog was very ill with sudden kidney failure, and the owner was asked if the dog had eaten grapes or raisins.

An emetic given fast can help in future.

IF you are worried, get kidney function tests done, but two grapes aren't a massive amount.

Xylitol is a danger...in chewing gum..So much stuff to worry about these days with artificial sweetners.

A simple emetic is given .Very effective, either by pill under eyelid or injection.

They are toxic, but small amounts may not be harmful. You got away with it fortunately. My boy, at 8 weeks old, snaffled a grape that I dropped and didn't pick up fast enough - for his pains the vet insisted that I made him very sick!!! Just to be on the safe side.

It is worth (a) being more aware of food risks to dogs and (b) having a proper first aid kit which also contains an emetic, and a dog first aid book.

Even if you never ever feed the dog something wrong again, someone else might, or they could pick up something outside. Fortunately mine has never since been a dog to go after "found food" - but that may be because he associates it with me making him very sick!

@SurreyHillsinspring I'm not sure how long sago your dog ate the grapes... if within hours, maybe still time to get her/him to vets for an emetic and activated charcoal {very black, very messy} to be given by you to him/her for next 24 h..

It makes their poo black.. If it was me,I would, but vey did say even my leaving it 4 hrs might be ''Too late'' for emetic.

Just wondered why dogs can't process(hope right word)grapes like humans what is the difference in bodily functions .

I gave him about ten so hopefully he'll be ok ,no damage done.So confusing on web.To assure the wife I told her there was no evidence of damage to dogs according to American organisation,people had given grapes for years with no problems. Really thanks for putting my mind at rest that only percentage effected. I can inform DW of the facts,thanks

What is a ''Safe'' emetic a lay person can give to a conscious dog?..

I know when ours chewed a 'Drummer'firelighter, she found in the wood pile, vet phoned poisons unit and they said not to use an emetic, just to let any fragments pass through {Basically paraffin}..
Emetics should only be given in certain circumstances.

Veterinary poisons line {UK} is available for public in emergencies {Costs about £40 from memory}

Just wondered why dogs can't process(hope right word)grapes like humans what is the difference in bodily functions .

Vets don’t know why some dogs suffer kidney damage from grapes.

Dogs aren’t humans so lots of things we can tolerate they can’t.

Ten?
Get to a vet.. Ten is a lot. At least phone your vet for urgent advice.

Wait, you told your wife that there was no evidence that grapes cause harm to dogs to 'reassure' her? What if she continues to give grapes to your dog?

No it's ok we will not be giving grapes,and she never has,to the dog because of the risk.I went a bit overboard because he goes nuts for bananas,apples and carrots.I even pulled some celery out of the fridge and I said what about this.She said no..she is the cautious one.