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Recommend me medium size, active dog breeds to consider?

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brawhen · 06/06/2022 12:54

Could you helpful people recommend me dog breeds to consider?

We will be first time dog owners. We would be open to rescuing/adopting a young dog, but I don't think our inexperience puts us in a great position for this. Thus probably looking at a puppy.

There is me, DH and two teen boys. Dog idea is really being led by me, but they are all amenable; DH would definitely get stuck in.

We live rurally (in a small village, national park, direct access to miles of trails). We have recently moved to a large(ish) house, big garden (nearly an acre).

Between DH and I, we work from home 4 days/week. Both of us are full time. 1 day per week dog would ideally come to the office with us (it's our own business, so we are in charge of saying this is fine!). We can cover a fifth day at home for early puppy days, and there are local dog walkers if we wanted to change our mind and use them for the fifth day.

I trail run ~5 days/week and would VERY much like the dog to become a running companion. We can offer lots of weekend walking time, likely including bigger expeditions/hillwalks on many weekends. Definitely 2 good walks/runs per day during the week (and probably additional short ones). I know that the running & long walks will take at least a year to build up to.

Dog would need to do an hour's car commute & back once or twice a week.

I very much like the idea of investing in training the dog. Obviously I've never done it before, but I think (hopefully!) I'd quite like the process. Training good manners and good recall would be high priority. I quite like the idea of gundog-style training, and there are agility classes & similar locally too.

To counter my inexperience (a bit!), I have lots of friends with dogs and a highly recommended trainer very locally.

We're looking for a medium sized dog. To give you an idea, these are breeds I think I might like (though not all for good practical reasons!)

  • Cocker/Springer/Sprocker Spaniel - they are good runners, you see lots locally round here, they are beautiful. But reading about them puts me off as everyone says crazy...
  • Border Collie - my grandad had one (as a family pet, not working) and I have fond memories. Very trainable. Next door have a super-chilled, well behaved, 10 month old collie - I had assumed he was an adult dog, no puppy madness evident! My dog-owning friends also suggested a collie. But reading about them the advice says not as a first dog.
  • Labrador - this seems to be a sensible choice? But probably on the big side of what we imagine, and you see lots of chunky labs that don't look like they'd like to go on a 10 mile run with me...
  • So I thus started to google collie / lab crosses ??

Breeds we are not keen on

  • Anything 'toy'
  • Anything enormous
  • Anything that cannot (with practice and as an adult) run 10 miles or hike up a munro

I don't think I'm bothered about boy vs girl (we would spay/neuter anyway). Don't mind a bit of hair, but I guess lower grooming maintenance would make it easier.

We have enough £ for vets, food, etc.

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KittytheHare · 07/06/2022 10:36

We have a lab/collie cross and he’s adorable. In fact even before I’d come to the end of your op, I’d thought that would be a great breed for you.
Medium sized, intelligent, very trainable and loves walks/runs. Also incredibly affectionate. Here’s a pic!

Recommend me medium size, active dog breeds to consider?
WarmWinterSun · 07/06/2022 10:41

Manchester terrier

Best dogs ever and very active. Not the toy, you will want the standard sized dog. www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/manchesterterriers.html

bdd2017 · 07/06/2022 10:47

My absolute fave dogs are collies (any of them!) if I had your lifestyle I'd get one in a heartbeat.

I live a suburban life so have a beddlington/whippet cross. Loves to sprint and snooze.

In your shoes I'd go collie or a terrier. (both have stamina and full of fun!)

Suzi888 · 07/06/2022 11:15

Beware the Labrador.
I have a show, working dogs are slimmer but all are prone to joint problems. 10 miles imo is too far for labs and will set them up for costly health issues later.

Branleuse · 07/06/2022 11:42

www.dogsblog.com/author/bodeguero-uk/

Neu · 07/06/2022 11:43

Cocker spaniels are not all crazy. We have the sweetest girl ever and she's only just 2. Two good walks a day and she sleeps the rest of it!

samthebordercollie · 07/06/2022 11:49

It's fairly obvious from my user name which breed I'd recommend: I'm a trail runner too, I run with my 2 dogs every morning, walk them in the evening so they get plenty of exercise which is vital for non working b-cs: They are great family pets too, very intelligent, affectionate, I could never have another breed of dog now!

sueelleker · 07/06/2022 11:56

Spaniel! We've had 3 springers, and with our current one also have her son; who is a sprocker. They're great dogs. Some can be a bit hyper, but all ours have been very relaxed in house.

tabulahrasa · 07/06/2022 12:11

You don’t particularly need an active dog btw, as in the breeds that are active are bred to do way way more than ten miles at human running speed.

Anything with exaggerated features that cause breathing issues is out, some breeds wouldn’t enjoy it so much, like greyhounds definitely prefer a sprint usually.

But other than that, pretty much any healthy adult dog would be capable of being as active as you’re looking for - so you’d be better off considering the other stuff you need or want. You might still end up with the same shortlist in the end, but it widens the immediate options.

Loopyloopy · 07/06/2022 12:31

Australian kelpie? Similar to the border collie in a lot of ways.

A rough or smooth collie would be lovely.

essayist · 07/06/2022 13:28

I would have to recommend a smooth collie. I've had 5, only one from a puppy, the others being rescues. They have all been a delight to live with -gentle and polite at home with no hyperactivity or destructive tendencies. And I'm sure one would have the stamina to keep up with you!

Just one thing to be aware of is the MDR1 gene mutation which is common in collies and other herding breeds, which causes a rather serious sensitivity to certain medications. But these are easily avoided once you know.

I lost my Ddog no.5 in March and I've been trying to live without one since then, but I'm not sure that's going to be possible for much longer......

Summertime2 · 07/06/2022 13:43

Cockerdor - Lab x Cocker Spaniel. We have a 3 yr old of this combo. He was our first dog too. He is amazing - laid back, tolerant, gentle, affectionate. Loves running and would go all day but also flops and sleeps when we get home.

Honestly the most brilliant dog!

Recommend me medium size, active dog breeds to consider?
MNSureIsBreachin · 07/06/2022 13:46

brawhen · 07/06/2022 09:39

@BoreOfWhabylon I did not know that the Tibetan was not a terrier. Am slightly scared by the grooming, but they do look lovely.

Tibetans are lovely dogs but I’m not sure they’re the right fit for you. They’re a utility dog, used in Tibet for a bit of everything from herding to guarding, and as a companion. They’re excellent watchdogs and they’re always looking to get involved in what the family is doing. it also means that they are problem solvers and free thinkers - getting them to do what you want can be a challenge. We have had 4, 2 of each sex so have some experience of them!

I don’t think any of our 4 would have liked to have joined you on the amount of runs and walks you’re planning to do. A good hour a day and ours were pretty much ready for a snooze. 2 of ours loved agility, the others couldn’t have cared less.

I definitely think there are many other breeds that would be much more suitable for you given your exercise requirements.

SomethingAboutNothing · 07/06/2022 13:47

We were similar to you, first time dog owners. Got a Working Cocker and he is a dream, not sure if it was luck or judgement but he is so eager to please that he was very easy to train. We regularly get comments on how well behaved he is and it isn't because of any expertise on our part, he just wants to make us happy.

Spaniels have a bad reputation for being crazy but as long as ours gets enough exercise (and it sounds like yours would get plenty) they are no bother. Mine is currently sleeping on the sofa next to me, but will be up and ready to go as soon as I go near the front door 😂

PicpoulDeMeNay · 07/06/2022 13:52

Sprocker - mine is the most loving dog in the world, yes there are slightly crazy moments, but I’m a believer in you are what you make them.

She is a bundle of energy when out, but at home is laid back and chilled. Easy to train as they’re so intelligent, great with kids and other dogs.

They’re not known as sprockerdiles for the first 5 months or so for nothing - they need training, stimulation and Entertaining - and plenty of sleep - in that puppy phase. But I’d do it all again in a heartbeat for the love she gives! She’s 18 months now and I can’t imagine life without her

MyGirlDaisy · 07/06/2022 14:07

I think someone else has mentioned a Trailhound, definitely worth considering. There is a dedicated welfare group that gives lots of information about them.

Sitdowncupoftea · 08/06/2022 10:15

To be honest people will only recommend dogs they have. For an all round adventure dog hiking running you can't beat a husky. I live rural big garden and walks from the door with access to national park. I've done a lot of hiking very outdoor person. A husky / malamute is the only dog that keeps up. They love running its what they were bred for.

samthebordercollie · 08/06/2022 10:18

Sitdowncupoftea · 08/06/2022 10:15

To be honest people will only recommend dogs they have. For an all round adventure dog hiking running you can't beat a husky. I live rural big garden and walks from the door with access to national park. I've done a lot of hiking very outdoor person. A husky / malamute is the only dog that keeps up. They love running its what they were bred for.

Huskies are indeed bred for running. My neighbour has 2, they escape regularly and have killed mine and my neighbour so hens and even attacked a goat, just something to be aware of if you have neighbours with animals!

Dozycuntlaters · 08/06/2022 12:19

I would go for a border terrier. Great dogs, love walking, running but also love their down time. Spaniels are great but all the ones I have known (cocker/springer) and bonkers who don't seem to chill. My border is brilliant, she loves her walks, could go on and on forever, but when we are at home (or work as she comes with me every day) she is happy to potter about and chill. She's great in the car as she is so used to it as she goes in it every day and is brilliant in the office. Sometimes my colleagues actually ask if I have brought her in as she's so good you wouldn't know she's there half the time. They love learning and are eager to please and really are clever dogs.

Dozycuntlaters · 08/06/2022 12:20

Oh and borders are low maintenance too, she has to be stripped twice a year but apart from the all she needs is the odd brush here and there.

Fenella123 · 08/06/2022 12:36

Fwiw most of the runners round here have spaniels of some sort.
Labs steal food and moult like crazy and can have joint issues - nice dogs but...

What do your dog owning buddies suggest? Can you dogsit for a week or two ?

brawhen · 08/06/2022 14:00

@Fenella123 dog owning buddies have suggested (a) a border collie, (b) various poodle mixes (mostly because they have them themselves) (c) spaniel. None of my close friends have spaniels, kinda wish they did!

I would like to dogsit - but work on our new house for the next few months means that we won't be able to secure the garden. We won't get our own dog before that's sorted, but also puts us out of dogsitting for now. However, maybe it will be sorted by the end of the summer holidays and we'll see then.

Border Terrier as per @Dozycuntlaters - I've had an initial look and actually that looks like a potential idea. Right size. My mum would like the hypoallergenic. But the chasey diggy characteristics??

I think I'm going to get in touch with a couple of spaniel / gundog rescues and maybe get on their radar, plus also start to look for local spaniel & working lab breeders to hear what they have to say.

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Edderkop · 08/06/2022 14:03

Labs steal food - I know plenty of spaniel food thieves. Difference between labs and spaniels seems to be labs jump up at the worktop to reach food, the spaniels jump ON the worktop! :-)

ThisisMax · 08/06/2022 14:07

SurpriseSurprise · 06/06/2022 13:43

Dalmatian. They were initially bred to run alongside carriages. Such a lovely breed too, so loyal and just love you

Untrainable. Nuts. Any I know are nutcases.

ThisisMax · 08/06/2022 14:08

I have a GSD and a lurcher both full on in different ways. If I was getting a dog for what you want I would look at a wirehaired German Pointer.