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Need to get my dog to be ok alone

21 replies

cheeseisthebest · 06/05/2022 07:47

My lovely shih tzu boy is one this month. He's a gorgeous boy and perfect in every way, he's actually being castrated on Monday and having 4 teeth out but once he's recovered I really need to work on leaving him alone, just for an hour would be great.
Any ideas? If we try he barks and cries. Loads of people have said just leave him and put him in the kitchen in case he poos which he has done when left alone for few minutes. But I don't think that's very fair on him and he's clearly anxious.

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FoamRoller · 06/05/2022 07:55

The book Be Right Back is a great starting point for this. It has everything laid out in programs for you to work through. It can be a long journey though so is often worth working with an APBC registered trainer for your encouragement!

rosydreams · 06/05/2022 08:17

have you tried leaving a radio on

fairylightsandwaxmelts · 06/05/2022 11:34

Separation anxiety is really tough to deal with and if he's so bad he poos within minutes I would be getting the help of a registered behaviourist.

If you speak to your vet, they can refer you and you may even be covered by your insurance (double check your policy though).

Derbee · 06/05/2022 11:37

Also, castration can make dogs a lot more anxious, so make sure there are pressing medical needs and it really needs to be done, especially so young.

TerrierOrTerror · 06/05/2022 16:48

How long are you leaving him for when you try? We're working through separation anxiety through the sub-threshold method and whilst it is slow it is working - the idea is that you never let your dog get distressed, certainly not to the point of soiling. I would definitely recommend contacting a behaviourist, we used one who trained under Julie Naismith (author of the book above). Our starting point was standing up, not even leaving the room let alone the house!

I would avoid blindly following advice such as leave the radio on. If you dog really hates being alone and begins to associate the radio with that you then have the problem of them panicking every time the radio is on even if you are saying in. However if you have it on as background noise generally I would definitely not turn it off as you leave, if that makes sense.

cheeseisthebest · 06/05/2022 20:26

Thank you. When he pood he'd only been left alone for few minutes, weirdly before that he had been ok for longer and never pood.
I'm not worried about the castration adding to his anxiety because he was chemically castrated 6 months ago and over the past months has generally become much more chilled not more anxious and hopefully the chemical will have same impact as actual castration.
I will have a look at that book, thank you.

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cheeseisthebest · 06/05/2022 20:28

I do leave the radio on anyway, its on all the time.

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Idratherhaveacuppa · 06/05/2022 21:55

We adopted a 4 year old dog with SA. Not a huge problem as I was WFH full time and as it was peak pandemic I knew we had time to go slowly.

We left her for seconds to start with. And that was after just getting her to be ok with us being in different rooms. Flitting is good for this.

It's a long process. We can leave her for a couple of hours now but conditions have to be right. No doors closed, bit of a walk before hand but nothing too exciting, a licki mat and ideally a nice patch of sunshine to lay in! We leave the radio on too but it's usually on during the day regardless.

Dog training advice and support on Facebook is great and have a whole section dedicated to SA.

2bazookas · 06/05/2022 22:06

One of our rescue dogs had bad separation anxiety, the first time he was alone in the house (just one hour) he went on a wrecking spree, so unlike his gentle sweet nature.
I trained him out of it by teaching him I would come back; went out the front door, closed it, came straight back in. Repeated gradually extending the departure to a few minutes, 5, 10, 15 etc until he'd got the message and was relaxed about being left alone.
Don't make a big deal of leaving him; don't pet and cuddle him , kiss goodbye etc. Don't make a big deal of excited greetings/reunions on your return. Play it cool and low key.

cheeseisthebest · 06/05/2022 22:22

Thank you. Will work on it!

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KangarooKenny · 08/05/2022 07:40

Do you walk him before you leave so that he is ‘empty’ ?

PollyRoulllson · 08/05/2022 08:38

cheeseisthebest you have had loads of advice on here on previous threads.

I would think it best to bring in the professional trainers/behaviourists now and get an individual plan sorted for you to make progress.

cheeseisthebest · 08/05/2022 08:40

PollyRoulllson · 08/05/2022 08:38

cheeseisthebest you have had loads of advice on here on previous threads.

I would think it best to bring in the professional trainers/behaviourists now and get an individual plan sorted for you to make progress.

Have you searched my previous threads? Why?

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Krakenchorus · 08/05/2022 08:48

We also did walk-out-walk-in the front door, very gradually extending from a few seconds, to minutes, finally several hours.

What also helped:

Always doing the same routine before leaving
Nice walk before we go out
Radio on
Dog pillow by the front door so he can snuggle in to wait for us
A biscuit on his pillow

Then we go.

We use a dog cam to measure his progress and make sure he's not distressed.

We also found he was much better having the run of downstairs rather than restricted to one room, but then he is not a chewer or destructive.

cheeseisthebest · 08/05/2022 08:55

Thank you, good tips. I have posted before but its always good to get some fresh ideas/advice. I can't afford a behaviourist.

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coffeecupsandfairylights · 08/05/2022 09:01

cheeseisthebest · 08/05/2022 08:55

Thank you, good tips. I have posted before but its always good to get some fresh ideas/advice. I can't afford a behaviourist.

If you speak to your vet, you should be able to be get them to refer you and it will be covered by insurance.

Separation anxiety won't be cured without proper, professional help. My own dog has separation anxiety and I had to contact a behaviourist - no amount of following well-meaning advice on the internet made the slightest bit of difference unfortunately.

A dog that poos within seconds of you leaving is just going to panic if you keep going in and out as PP have recommended - it means they're constantly on edge and in a state of panic.

Please speak to your vet and get professional help - your insurance should pay if it's been vet-referred.

cheeseisthebest · 08/05/2022 09:28

Thank you I didn't know that will speak to them.

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coffeecupsandfairylights · 08/05/2022 10:25

Good luck.

I really sympathise as it can be soul-destroying and it really limits your life, but a good behaviourist is worth their weight in gold - they really can change your life.

PollyRoulllson · 08/05/2022 20:42

cheeseisthebest · 08/05/2022 08:40

Have you searched my previous threads? Why?

No I have not searched your previous threads Confused but I have read them and just remembered this is an issue that you have had for a while.

Jjust thought it might help to get professional help as it has now been going on for a long time thats all ....

cheeseisthebest · 08/05/2022 21:17

Ok thank you sorry.

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