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For goodness sake dog owners AIBU

99 replies

Stumpedasatree · 21/02/2022 12:31

Why are dogs that are likely to jump up on strangers not kept on leads? I have lost count of the amount of muddy paws that have jumped on me on a walk resulting in clean clothes needing a wash, sometimes coat and trousers. Some owners don't even apologise for it. I am a dog owner, fortunately mine has never jumped up, but i find this so annoying of dog owners, it's not cute.

OP posts:
nancy75 · 21/02/2022 22:47

Admittedly my situation is rather unusual but my office is in a park/wooded area used by loads of dog walkers (most of them use our car park) I do get jumped up at at least a couple of times a week - I’m not wearing muddy going for a walk clothes because I’m going to work.
I love dogs & do chat to lots of the dogs walkers but I really don’t want to spend the day at work covered in mud & slobber

Ceara · 22/02/2022 05:24

My puppy isn't 7 months old yet.

I have taken him to classes nearly every week since he completed his vaccinations and we had a 1-1 prior to that at home with the trainer.

I have taught him a default sit on seeing people or pets when out and about, middle, hand touch, look at me. I have always rewarded calm when he sees people approaching, and voluntary eye contact with me. If need be I do encourage his focus onto me with things like middle and hand touch which is what the trainer taught us to do, I did not realise it was wrong for me to be "distracting" him, as advised above by the comment that I am distracting not training him by doing this. I keep him on a lead, or a long line (held or trailing) in what are mostly empty fields once we get there - he is not bounding over and jumping at strangers, he is pretty good at recalling atm but I cannot predict when he will have a bad hormone day so, longline. I can't follow advice on here to "walk in different areas until he's trained" and always avoid anywhere he is "too close to his triggers" because I do have to walk out my front door and down my own street to get anywhere.

My frustration expressed above was that people come up and pet him, and he then doesn't have the self control to stay sitting nicely once someone has approached and started petting him, he is on his feet wagging his whole little body and will often manage to land a muddy paw on clean trouser legs, even with a hand on harness assuming I've moved fast enough. Some people are then upset. Others will say it's fine, my dogs do it all the time, or oh I was muddy already, but either way it encourages him to do it again.

I find it hard to tell people who approach without asking or waiting for permission to keep back, without feeling it's rude or discourteous and abrupt and could offend people.

There is a massive amount of judgment on this thread but I do still think that the widespread attitude that cute puppies are public property for petting, doesn't help and undermines owners efforts to train. I stand by that view and the general point I was trying to make. Though obviously for my personal situation I take the criticism on board that I have been failing at training my puppy and am showing no respect to the public (and have had a proper sob about it if that affords reassurance it has been taken to heart).

Blossom64265 · 22/02/2022 06:00

It’s not just the mud, it’s the dog. If you are allergic, the dog touching you is a problem. Not to mention it basically forces you to use your bare hands to nudge the dog down, making the contact even worse. Dog owners should know better.

Unescorted · 22/02/2022 06:11

We get loads of jumpers here... It is the path that goes from our village to the nearest train station, high school, larger shops. It is an essential walking route.... I don't see why I have to dress in charity shop cast offs to go to work because someone decides to walk their badly trained dog off the lead.

LetTheBirdsSing · 22/02/2022 06:15

@EddieVeddersfoxymop

This absolutely drives me nuts. I like to go for a walk in the woods in the morning and detest being jumped all over. I should have to choose my clothes incase a dog jumps on me - control your dog and remember dog walkers don't own the woods. Don't even get me started on dog shit - especially those who leave it on the verges because no one walks there......people do! Kids, geocachers, photographers.......

But back to the case in hand. Please, stop your dogs jumping. We don't all love your dog as much as you do.

Completely agree with everything you’ve said. I can’t believe some people here are saying it’s peoples fault for wearing ‘pale jeans’ when walking in the woods. Im quite capable of keeping my clothes clean when walking somewhere muddy; I just wear sensible footwear and accept that my shoes will get muddy. The idea that I should have to avoid wearing certain clothes in order to be ‘realistic’ about an uncontrolled dog jumping up at me is mind boggling.
Suzi888 · 22/02/2022 06:33

@Saucery

Well, I wouldn’t go to a children’s party with a chocolate fountain and candy floss stall whilst wearing a couture ballgown, so wearing clothing that you don’t mind a bit of mud on when out in the woods isn’t a massive deal to me. Seems it is to some.
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ABitBesotted · 22/02/2022 06:42

@Unescorted

We get loads of jumpers here... It is the path that goes from our village to the nearest train station, high school, larger shops. It is an essential walking route.... I don't see why I have to dress in charity shop cast offs to go to work because someone decides to walk their badly trained dog off the lead.
christ, by "jumpers" I thought you meant suicides.

I agree with those who say dogs should be on-lead in public areas. There will always be phobic or allergic types, but an old lady with a Zimmer frame or a wobbly toddler should be able to walk unmolested, too, as well as ponces in pale designer jeans.Grin

I keep my dogs on a lead where there are people, for the dogs' safety.

But I still cherish the cuddles I got from random mutts in between the death of my last girl and the advent of my current little lead-chewer.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 22/02/2022 06:58

it doesnt happen to me, or if it has i turn around
1% of the time or less

mynameisnotmichaelcaine · 22/02/2022 07:06

Yes, it's really annoying. My dog can be jumpy if excited, so I clip her back on her lead if I see clean people/children/bikes/people who look nervous of dogs approaching. I used to be terrified of dogs because a large Doberman jumped up at me when I was little, so I understand the impact jumping up can have. DDog is getting better but she's still young and is a work in progress.

She occasionally jumps up at friends I stop to talk to if they have treats. I am always wildly apologetic.

EdithStourton · 22/02/2022 07:42

@Ceara,
and have had a proper sob about it
I almost posted last night and now I wish I had. There are times when replies to comments, even if well-intentioned and offering good advice, can come across as very critical and are counsels of perfection. It's great if you've always got the time to put your puppy in the car and drive to the perfect place which happens to be five minutes away, or to turn around four times and walk off, but in the real world we're sometimes in a hurry or the perfect place doesn't exist. Or, as is often the case, unexpectedly ceases to be perfect (there I was, doing my best to 'keep my dog away from his triggers', namely bikes, especially unexpected bikes appearing out of nowhere, but all the same having a row with a mountain biker, who had yelled at me because my dog ran at him barking, when he was cycling in dense woods from which bikes were actually banned).

You're right, this thread has been judgemental. The Doghouse is in general judgement central, which must scare off a lot of posters.

PollyRoulllson · 22/02/2022 08:23

Ceara you are not distracting if you are allowing your dog to see the trigger and offer another behaviour BUT when you are too close to the trigger and your dog reacts anyway they are just learning to carry out the jumping and over arousal. you can go to all the training classes in the world but if dogs are allowed to carry out behaviour eg jumping up it will continue for longer and become habit.

If you have your dog on a long line and a harness then your dog should not be able to jump up to people that you see, so you are not one of the offenders.

I would not say the thread is judgemental just looking at the hard facts and being amazed at the learned nelplessness of some owners.
The thread has shown that some people think there is no alternative but to allow your dog to jump up.

It is easy to prevent jumping up - use a lead hold a harness. Of course training takes time but in the meantime there is no reason for a dog to jump up at people.

Re the mountain bike:- your dog if on a long line should not have been able to chase the bike. In view of your dog (forget the cyclists) this event would set back your training and really does need to be prevented to make your life easier. It is no hardship for a dog to be on a shorter lead whilst training is taking place if you find the long line a problem.

There are easy solutions to prevent dogs jumping up at people they do not know.

I have dog experience and loads of dogs. I also have a 8 month old lab who is a happy sociable dog. He will run and jump up at anyone given the chance. He is not given the chance.

ABitBesotted · 22/02/2022 09:44

The thread has shown that some people think there is no alternative but to allow your dog to jump up.

Who has actually said anything like that?

vivainsomnia · 22/02/2022 10:54

I walk my dog in parks and country lanes/woodlands twice a day and in the last 5 years, I'd say it has happened less than a handful of times and in most cases they were puppies with owners apologising.

Bunty55 · 22/02/2022 12:07

So the moral of this story is.. what.. or are we all just having a big moan then ?

If you don't like it, don't walk in the woods ?

Don't walk?

My dog does not do this, she generally minds her own business and stays close to me and never approaches anyone unless people remark how cute she looks, and then offer to stroke her and fuss over her. Only then she may just go on her hind legs and put her front paws on the offending human's leg. That is their problem. My dog does not ask for attention from anyone.

If your dog is like this - foisting itself on strangers, then walk it on a lead in public places or take it elsewhere.

Aren't there better things to moan about than this fgs

Ceara · 22/02/2022 12:24

@EdithStourton thank you for posting that.

gogohm · 22/02/2022 12:42

I agree op. Very annoying!

My dog doesn't jump up

EdithStourton · 22/02/2022 16:33

@PollyRoulllson,
Re the mountain bike
I think that was me and my dog.
No bloody way am I longlining a dog who doesn't like bikes in woods where bikes are banned and I only see one every year or so, if that, just in case some prat shoots out from behind a stand of holly.

PollyRoulllson · 22/02/2022 17:29

[quote EdithStourton]@PollyRoulllson,
Re the mountain bike
I think that was me and my dog.
No bloody way am I longlining a dog who doesn't like bikes in woods where bikes are banned and I only see one every year or so, if that, just in case some prat shoots out from behind a stand of holly.[/quote]
Cool no worries then Confused

If it were my dog I would be looking at improving recalls generally though if it were chasing something moving. So not on the off chance of meeting a bike but other situtations that my dog would find challenging.

pigsDOfly · 23/02/2022 10:50

The problem with allowing your dog to chase a bike in the woods, even though the bike shouldn't be there, is that if your dog causes the rider to fall and injure themselves, you would be liable.

EdithStourton · 23/02/2022 18:03

He didn't chase the bike. Both times, the bloody bike shot out from behind bushes right in front of him and he barked and lunged, and then backed off, barking. Quite what the legal position would have been had the bike hit him, I would be interested to know. One of the bikes was inches from him.

I spent a lot of time working with that dog, to improve focus and recall and sociability with dogs, and he improved massively. Bikes were a step too far. Lack of time, lack of opportunity, other priorities with his training.

pigsDOfly · 23/02/2022 19:39

Sorry EdithStourton if I misunderstood, I got the impression your dog ended up chasing the bike. My post wasn't meant to sound critical.

Where I live we have shared spaces for walkers, and bike riders and I've given up using them in the main because of the actions of some of the cyclist.

I always kept my dog on her lead when we walked there but she was still put in danger on several occasions by the irresponsible behaviour of certain cyclists.

I agree, it's very frustrating.

MrsCremuel · 23/02/2022 19:48

Very annoying. We live near a popular beach town and it happens all the time. DS is 3 and now terrified of dogs because so many have jumped up at him. It’s annoying to have to be constantly on guard and the owners rarely apologise.

EdithStourton · 23/02/2022 21:22

Cheers, @pigsDOfly
He had chased bikes in the past, which was why I kept him away from them.

The current two are excellent around bikes, so I now have the easy option of a nearby walk on a track which has the odd bike along it.

Bluechinavase · 02/03/2022 20:46

I hate it too OP. I’ve asked owners how they would like it if I took my shoes off and wiped them on their clothes. It’s never acceptable. My pal insists on bringing her dog everywhere now so we have to find dog friendly cafes or sit outside. Erm no thanks, it’s baltic outside. She speaks to her dog in that baby voice like it’s a human … “now now Fido! Blue doesn’t like you jumping on her so you’d best not do that”. FFS just yank the bloody mutt back and shout loudly at it. Or her other comment, again in a softly spoken baby voice …. “Now Fido, you’d better behave or the girls wont invite you back”. Argh, we never fecking invited it in the first place. Entitled owner just brings it without asking. It drives me mad and our friendship is going down the swanny because of it.

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