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If you're worried about your pet's health, please speak to a vet or qualified professional.

Any vets - cotoneaster poisoning?

11 replies

YNK · 31/01/2022 17:37

Hi lived here 3y, dogs went downhill slowly but gathered pace recently.

Now I know what's happened what hydroxo treatment would you recommend and what baseline bloods to do?
One dog had a stroke the other night but I'd had to take her collar off so I'm sure her thyroid needs support.

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Lonecatwithkitten · 31/01/2022 19:16

@YNK

Hi lived here 3y, dogs went downhill slowly but gathered pace recently.

Now I know what's happened what hydroxo treatment would you recommend and what baseline bloods to do?
One dog had a stroke the other night but I'd had to take her collar off so I'm sure her thyroid needs support.

Not familiar with cotoneaster poisoning nor hydroxo treatment. Dogs normally get hypothyroid so gain weight so their collar gets tight.
Lonecatwithkitten · 31/01/2022 19:19

Ah after a Google you are talking about a yew tree. Dogs usually get a brief self looking limiting vomiting and diarrhoea and recover.
Of you have signs of chronic weight loss this needs investigation with standard baseline bloods.

YNK · 01/02/2022 01:25

Nope, any help welcome asap www.msdvetmanual.com/toxicology/cyanide-poisoning/cyanide-poisoning-in-animals

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YNK · 01/02/2022 01:26

Please mumsnet, someone help us

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Ginandplatonic · 01/02/2022 01:42

Surely you will need to see an actual vet and get a formal diagnosis to decide whether hydroxocobalamin treatment is appropriate and available? And sort out the thyroid issue? I don’t think anyone on here can tell you.

StrawberryPot · 01/02/2022 01:50

Rather than pleading for help on Mumsnet - please ring an emergency vet.

Lonecatwithkitten · 01/02/2022 13:01

@YNK

Please mumsnet, someone help us
You need to have an in person consult with your vet.
YNK · 01/02/2022 14:28

I have been seeing the vet increasingly often in the last 3y since I moved into this house.
I have spent many thousands at the vets, one has had surgery and I've had the emergency vet out on Sunday after the other dog had a stroke on thursday night and nearly died. She saw the vet earlier that day and she gave her some eardrops.
I'm at the vets this afternoon for blood tests, hopefully before starting some treatment.

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YNK · 01/02/2022 17:01

Formal diagnostic tests would need done under GA - neither dog is well enough now and one had dental surgery last wee.

They have done a full screening over £300 each dog (for those who assumed I was freeloading here for help for my dogs).
However neither me nor the vets think my observations are wrong fortunately.

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Catinacupboard · 01/02/2022 17:20

If you think it's poisoning the best people to contact are the veterinary poisons people VPIS. They have a client contact line as well as a vet one. You have to pay to talk to them but they are most likely to know if those symptoms are likely and to discuss treatment. That type of poisoning is rare and it's not a common antidote so they are also most likely to know where to find it if needed.

YNK · 01/02/2022 18:28

@Catinacupboard

If you think it's poisoning the best people to contact are the veterinary poisons people VPIS. They have a client contact line as well as a vet one. You have to pay to talk to them but they are most likely to know if those symptoms are likely and to discuss treatment. That type of poisoning is rare and it's not a common antidote so they are also most likely to know where to find it if needed.
You are a superstar!

That is exactly what I needed.
One wears a muzzle on walks so I knew they weren't getting something that way. But both of them go in the garden where the cotoneaster is so as soon as I read the symptoms the penny dropped.

I imagine this type of poisoning is statistically quite rare if it's left to dog owners themselves to work out.

Lots of dogs are 'picking up' something just now from being walked near water, and yet again we are hearing it's a mystery disease that can kill heathy dogs in days. Around this time every year people are also warned in the press about the danger of water dropwort (hemlock).

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